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Screenclutter
10-13-2008, 10:29 AM
How long do you think it would take to get to our cameras if what this article suggests is true?

http://gizmodo.com/5062412/black-silicon-discovery-could-change-digital-photography-night-vision-forever

Visual Reality
10-13-2008, 06:09 PM
Not much additional effort? The amount of power they need would be a hurdle.

Turn
10-13-2008, 07:38 PM
Not much additional effort? The amount of power they need would be a hurdle.

I would just like to see some ISO shots :D

FLiPMaRC
10-14-2008, 02:30 PM
Not much additional effort? The amount of power they need would be a hurdle.

What do you mean? :confused:

Paradox
10-14-2008, 03:10 PM
I'd imagine the cost of purchasing, integrating, and initiating a reasonably high energy laser into the production process would be pretty expensive. I'd also imagine production would have to stop for a time to add the device to the production line, costing a lot of money in manufacturing time.

I also think they've oversimplified the process to hell in that article. They seem to be implying that we just need to fire a laser into your sensors to improve them instantly. No, no the electronics and sensor design will probably have to change drastically too. Meaning research and development time and costs. So I think it could be a while, if it ever takes off at all.

jekostas
10-14-2008, 03:32 PM
I'd imagine the cost of purchasing, integrating, and initiating a reasonably high energy laser into the production process would be pretty expensive. I'd also imagine production would have to stop for a time to add the device to the production line, costing a lot of money in manufacturing time.

Exact, EXACT quote from the article

"And there's no change to the manufacturing process, Mazur said, so existing semiconductor facilities can create black silicon without much additional effort or, more importantly, money."

The lasers are already there - he's using the same lasers that are used to etch the silicon already, just adding an extra chemical to the process.

Visual Reality
10-14-2008, 04:44 PM
What do you mean? :confused:
In case you didn't read the article:

To create the special silicon, Harvard physicist Eric Mazur shined a super powerful laser onto a silicon wafer. The laser's output briefly matches all the energy produced by the sun falling onto the Earth's entire surface at a given moment in time.
So that's easy to do in mass-production of millions of units?

I've seen this process used recently to change the color of metals. It is possible to make gold aluminum and many other combinations:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080201090845.htm

So scientists are playing around with this in many other applications. We'll see what comes of it.