Kodak EasyShare Z1012 IS?? been hearing bad stuff??

[trailrider894]

so i've been hearing bad stuff bout the Kodak EasyShare Z1012. but i really like the sound the feature's of it. but i hear to much about the firmware and image prcessing time taking to long. so if somebody could help me out my giving the name of another one that has for the most part the same feature's?? like the 12x zoom and the wide angle shot's. and i want to use it for taking picture's of scenery and freestlye quad motorcross. but i want to keep it under $$$275$$$.

[S_p_i_d_e_r]

Many Kodak cameras, including Z1012, CANNOT be powered by AA alkaline batteries or Ni-MH rechargeables :( You can either use expensive lithium CRV3 batteries; KODAK Li-Ion Rechargeable KLIC-8000 (you will have to buy a charger for it) or AA lithium batteries, which are more expensive than alkalines. That is very limiting.

Or you can make yourself a battery if you are into DIY ;)
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showpost.php?p=280566&postcount=2

Other nice cameras:

Canon S5 IS (12x zoom with stabiliser, manual controls and rotating LCD, but no real wide angle at 36mm and no RAW mode)

Fujifilm S6500fd (aka S6000fd - now discontinued, 10x manually-operated zoom without stabiliser, manual controls, RAW mode, 28mm wide angle, respectable higher ISO performance)

Fujifilm S9600 (aka S9100 - same as above + more megapixels, command dial, hinged LCD and flash hot-shoe)

[Beowulff]

This would be my choice; the only thing it doesn't have is RAW, but it's got IS, has a 28mm wide end, and an 18x zoom tele. At its 2MP resolution (which will give you perfect 6" x 4" prints) it can shoot at 15 frames/second. It also has very limited shutter lag for its class.

Fuji S8000fd (http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/S8000/S8000A.HTM)

It's selling for around $300 maybe, but could be cheaper online.

Cheers :)

[S_p_i_d_e_r]

Even at ISO100 Canon S5 IS wins with Fuji S8000fd in terms of picture sharpness and colour rendition. Even at ISO400 images from Canon look cleaner and more detailed, although both cameras suffer heavily from digital noise.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

[trailrider894]

then what about the Fujifilm S1000FD??? cause it is a-lot cheaper!!

[tkbslc]

then what about the Fujifilm S1000FD??? cause it is a-lot cheaper!!

Well do you want one that does what you need, or one that is super cheap?

[KCook]

I prefer how the controls handle on the Fuji S1000fd to the Kodak. However, it does lack the optical IS feature, if that happens to be a deal breaker for you. For your motocross action I don't think optical IS would be any benefit. I should confess to bias, my own camera is a Fuji, though not the S1000.

Kelly Cook

[trailrider894]

so you are saying that it would be okay to get that one?? by your opion?? and what exactyl is optical IS???

[David Metsky]

and what exactyl is optical IS???
Optical IS (image stabilization) are sensors and motors that move the CCD around to counteract the movement of the camera from your unsteady hands. People can't hold a camera still for very long, and your subject will be blurry if the camera moves while the shutter is open.

This is great for when you subject is still. If you need to keep the shutter open for 1/20th of a second to get enough light, with IS you can do this hand held. Without IS you might need to use a tripod.

When your subject is moving (like in motocross) IS doesn't do you much good. It allows you to keep the camera still while the shutter is open, but your subject will move the same amount whether you have IS or not. The bikes will still be a blur across the image.

For fast moving objects you need a fast shutter speed. In good light all cameras will be fine with that. In low light you need to push the ISO higher.

[Beowulff]

Optical image stabilisation means that any potential camera shake or vibration caused by the user is lessened, so that your images — hopefully — turn out sharper at lower shutter speeds and lower ISOs.

OIS can be implemented in two distinct ways: Firstly by physically shifting one of the glass elements in the lens itself. Secondly by shifting the sensor inside the camera body. Different manufacturers have different preferences, and for purely point 'n' shoot cameras it doesn't really matter which method is used. With dSLRs though, it's brand-specific, as some camera manufacturers' lenses are stabilised, whilst other's lenses are not, but their sensors are.

All methods of OIS utilise tiny gyroscopes (electro-mechanical devices) to sense any vertical and/or horizontal movement of the camera body, and instantly shift the lens element or sensor accordingly to counteract this involuntary movement. You can usually gain (depending on the manufacturer's marketing department!) 2 or 3 stops at least.

So-called "dual image stabilisation" is verging on marketing hype IMHO — it simply means as well as OIS, the camera raises the ISO, or the shutter speed — or both. Remember though that anything that automatically raises your ISOs also raises the noise in your images as a tradeoff. High ISOs and shutter speeds do however help eliminate subject blur, whereas OIS can't.

Personally, as it's now commonly accepted camera technology, I wouldn't buy a camera without OIS. Any camera manufacturer who excludes it from a current-model camera in 2008 is simply cutting corners to save money IMHO. I've owned four cameras without OIS, and now own a couple with it, and I know which I prefer.

Cheers :)

[KCook]

so you are saying that it would be okay to get that one?? by your opion?? and what exactyl is optical IS???
I had a Canon with optical IS. And that was very nice for indoors photography of still subjects. For the reasons already detailed in the other posts here. My current Fuji lacks optical IS, and I find I don't miss it all that much. As most of my photography is outdoors in daylight. In theory daylight shots of still subjects with telephoto would also benefit from optical IS. But when I am using the telephoto the subject usually isn't still.

I would agree that cameras over the $250 price level should all have optical IS. In more modest price cameras somethings have to be sacrificed. I would rather keep nice controls and lenses and give up optical IS.

If you decide that optical IS is important for you, that Canon SX100 IS that I suggested on your other thread does have this feature. Along with 10X optical zoom. Priced about the same as the Fuji S1000fd.

Kelly

[speaklightly]

Perhaps it might be worthwhile to here from a Kodak Z-1012 and Canon S-5 user. I honestly have no major negative complaints about the Kodak Z012. It is a good snapshot/to slightly more serious camera. However, it does not surpass the canon S-5 by any measure, nor does it have a hotshoe, which the Canon S-5 has. Here is a Kodak Z-1012 photo sample:

http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Sarah124710/A-8BradleyBRK082108Z-1012.jpg

Here is a Canon S-5 sample taken with the Canon EX-420 flash in the bounce position.

http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Sarah124710/A-6BradleyBRK081908S-5EX-420.jpg

Sarah Joyce

[trailrider894]

okay one last question bout the Fujifil Finepix 1000 that is was talking about. can you buy lenses and stuff for it??? and how does the whole lense adapter???? thing work??

[speaklightly]

Trail-

I am sorry to say that the Fuji F-1000fd is a fixed lens camera totally without any IS. So, it would not be very high on my selection list.

Sarah Joyce

[trailrider894]

well then i want a camera that has all the same feature's that can have other lenses put on it i like black and the control layout. so can you help me now?/ cause this is getting frustrating. :(

[jekostas]

well then i want a camera that has all the same feature's that can have other lenses put on it i like black and the control layout. so can you help me now?/ cause this is getting frustrating. :(

Do you want an SLR? I think this is what this message is saying, but your typing is so terrible I'm having difficulty figuring it out.

If you could make your questions a little more clear it will give us a better idea of exactly what you want, and we will be able to tailor our responses accordingly.

[KCook]

I could not find any lens accessories or adapters for the Fuji S1000fd. In my view the deep adapter tubes needed for such accessories are clumsy. So I don't even try to use filters with my point-and-shoots.

Kelly

[AndyfromVA]

well then i want a camera that has all the same feature's that can have other lenses put on it i like black and the control layout. so can you help me now?/ cause this is getting frustrating. :(

A lot of folks are trying to help you but you make it difficult because you keep adding new requirements. I strongly suggest you do your own online research (in addition to this site, there are at least 1/2 dozen excellent camera review sites) to get a better idea of what you want and what's out there.

[trailrider894]

well sorry i made it so hard on you guy's. but thankx for all the help. and about my typing!! i suck at typing cause i never ever type.

[Beowulff]

Hey there trailrider...

Check out THIS SITE (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp).

It has every possible camera option listed; you simply choose what features you want in each category, and it'll spit out all cameras that satisfy your criteria, side-by-side for you to compare.

Hope this helps :)