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Rhys
04-03-2008, 07:33 PM
64 GB CF!!!!!!!!!!

I can remember when I was using 8mb SM cards! 64GB CF just blows my socks off!

I was just browsing here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010070068+1053107923&name=Compact+Flash+(CF)

I've got 2x 4GB cards so no real need for anything bigger at the moment but 64GB is so huge I cannot possibly imagine what camera would need such a size. Even the 5D with 13mp has file sizes of only 13mb. On a 64GB card that allows 5,000 photos approx.

What we need now is better batteries that will allow us to take 5,000 photos on a single charge!

I can imagine a huge card like that would be handy for people on trips to wild and distant lands who would not wish to carry a lot of extra cards. Then they'd be the kind that'd need the long-life super-capacity battery too.

The bonus - the smaller cards now get cheaper :D

DonSchap
04-03-2008, 08:03 PM
You know ... if you shoot RAW + JPEG, this could be really cool. I would recommend some kind of file arrangement though, because searching through it when it begins to fill could take some time. Especially when it is trying to thumbnail every stinkin' file. LOL :eek:

Dread Pirate Roberts
04-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Rhys how about video cams etc, it's not all about still life.

T06
04-04-2008, 12:44 AM
Rhys how about video cams etc, it's not all about still life.

Good point but in time I think we will look back in the future & say 'hell I remember when i had 8gb in 2 or 3 cards & I thought that was a lot, hahahaha'
With the advent of cameras to come with 20+ mp it will be an added bonus in the standard card size.

Visual Reality
04-04-2008, 03:49 AM
Definetely good for video cams. Who needs a HDD when you have it in a small removeable card.

BTW Rhys, that link only takes you to the view of all of the CF cards, and I can only find 32Gb as the largest?

Rhys
04-04-2008, 06:47 AM
That's odd. It was there yesterday.

Oh well. But you are right - even the 32GB cards are almost replacements for laptop hard drives. I was very impressed to find there are 128GB solid state laptop drives. The Macbook Air has one (not the cheaper version though).

I reckon in 2 years time we'll all be using solid-state hard drives.

FlashX83
04-04-2008, 06:47 AM
Obligatory: "That's what SHE said!"


Man and I thought my new 8gb was big.

Paradox
04-04-2008, 10:32 AM
I've still got an 8 Megabyte CF card plugged into my little 2 megapixel Nikon compact. :p How times change!

DonSchap
04-04-2008, 11:55 AM
I'm sporting the 16GB in my α700 ... and I find it to be just about right, with all the different formats (fine and very-fine JPG, c-RAW, RAW, c-RAW+JPEG, RAW+JPEG) and such. Date-coding your file structure really allows you to keep things automatically separated for quick retrieval.

Although, 64GB might be better. You just never know when you'll have enough battery power to fill one of those up! My God! AC Adapter shoot and buzz-saw, rapid-fire JPG-image generation, here we come. With the α700's 5-fps speed ... tracking the foot-race never was so easy. :D

Dread Pirate Roberts
04-04-2008, 10:30 PM
With the advent of cameras to come with 20+ mp it will be an added bonus in the standard card size.

They're not allowed to release cameras like that (20+MP) now that I've bought into this crazy hobby. There shall be no more obsolescence:mad:

JTL
04-04-2008, 11:36 PM
I reckon in 2 years time we'll all be using solid-state hard drives.Yep. I'm waiting for 2TB of mirrored storage on a couple of postage stamp sized cards...and the funny thing is...I probably won't have to wait that long!

And, what about high-def movies on ss cards? Why do we need Blu-ray and it's moving parts? :confused:

Visual Reality
04-04-2008, 11:50 PM
That's an obvious one. It costs pennies to produce a disc, and dollars to produce flash memory. That means millions for manufacturers.

Rhys
04-05-2008, 08:59 AM
That's an obvious one. It costs pennies to produce a disc, and dollars to produce flash memory. That means millions for manufacturers.

Actually the component parts of flash memory are dirt cheap. The silicon chips are largely made of sand!

Visual Reality
04-05-2008, 09:05 AM
I don't agree. Do the research yourself...again, it costs pennies to produce a disc, and dollars to produce flash memory.

cdifoto
04-05-2008, 09:05 AM
There's more to a product than its components.

Ray Schnoor
04-07-2008, 06:02 AM
Actually the component parts of flash memory are dirt cheap. The silicon chips are largely made of sand!
There's more to a product than its components.
Yeah, what CDI said. And you, Rhys, are made up largely of water. That doesn't mean I am saying you are dirt cheap, or should be.:D

Ray.

Paradox
04-07-2008, 07:29 AM
I think the component parts of a human are meant to cost about £5-£10. I should hope most of us put more value on a human life than a tenner. :p

Rhys
04-07-2008, 08:22 AM
I think the component parts of a human are meant to cost about £5-£10. I should hope most of us put more value on a human life than a tenner. :p

How much value would you put on the life of Scott Peterson?

DonSchap
04-07-2008, 08:58 AM
Of course the value of anyone is only subject to discussion, as only the "Master Planner" knows our true value. There are plenty of people around who will step right up and tell you ... "You can be replaced!"

No kidding ... I've watched the entire staff of my firm, above my level, have it done to them => REPLACED. I guess they were absolutely right. Out of the mouths of babes ... the wisdom of the ages. Advice: Keep your head down ... and keep those paychecks a coming. There is a certain level where you become a little too ... "disposable."

Fact is ... this big, bad old world was here without any of us ... for one hell of a long time. And even the dinosaurs, who had one heck of a long run, were eventually replaced. The Cosmic-ticker is still running ... huge rocks are hurtling through space, at ungodly speeds and we're all at risk. When your number gets called ...

34769
"G-59" :eek:

BINGO ... you're gone!

That memory card may be your last activity in this plane of existance! Fill 'er up and enjoy every moment doing so! The bigger it is ... the longer it should take. ;)

great_guns
04-07-2008, 10:10 AM
I think the component parts of a human are meant to cost about £5-£10. I should hope most of us put more value on a human life than a tenner. :p

You can sell your kidney for a pretty bang I hear.

Moral of the story: drink a lot of water and keep your kidneys in shape. Consider them as an investment.:p

Paradox
04-07-2008, 11:46 AM
How much value would you put on the life of Scott Peterson?

Not a clue. Nor do I have a clue how much I'd put on anyone's life really.

Rhys
04-07-2008, 01:04 PM
Not a clue. Nor do I have a clue how much I'd put on anyone's life really.

For those that don't know, Scott Peterson was convicted of a particularly nasty murder.

Paradox
04-07-2008, 02:20 PM
For those that don't know, Scott Peterson was convicted of a particularly nasty murder.

I googled it before my reply, so I did know. ;) I'm not really in a position to value anyone though.

Rhys
04-07-2008, 03:40 PM
I googled it before my reply, so I did know. ;) I'm not really in a position to value anyone though.

I'm gonna be controversial now... I still want a 64GB CF card :D

Paradox
04-08-2008, 01:01 AM
I'm gonna be controversial now... I still want a 64GB CF card :D

Anyone get the impression our grandchildren are going to be mocking us in years to come about our puny 64 gig CF cards, while they walk around with terabytes of storage on SD cards inside cameras with a resolution that makes a mockery of today's best Hasselblads and a nice clean ISO 64,000, all in the size of a compact? :p If things keep developing at the speed they have been... :eek:

great_guns
04-08-2008, 04:11 AM
ISO 64,000, :eek:

:eek::eek::eek::eek:
If you print that out, it'd look like you printed on sandpaper!

Rhys
04-08-2008, 07:14 AM
Anyone get the impression our grandchildren are going to be mocking us in years to come about our puny 64 gig CF cards, while they walk around with terabytes of storage on SD cards inside cameras with a resolution that makes a mockery of today's best Hasselblads and a nice clean ISO 64,000, all in the size of a compact? :p If things keep developing at the speed they have been... :eek:

There are finite limits on technology. One limit is that however hard one tries, one cannot build a sensor cell smaller than one photon. Well, if you could there just wouldn't be any point anyway.

I do suspect we'll see vast improvements in storage, file formats, cameras, lenses etc. I think the biggest improvement will be in battery longevity though and maybe we'll even see solar-powered cameras. As I recall, the Ricoh KR10 was partially solar-powered back in the film days.

Paradox
04-08-2008, 07:47 AM
There are finite limits on technology. One limit is that however hard one tries, one cannot build a sensor cell smaller than one photon. Well, if you could there just wouldn't be any point anyway.

I do suspect we'll see vast improvements in storage, file formats, cameras, lenses etc. I think the biggest improvement will be in battery longevity though and maybe we'll even see solar-powered cameras. As I recall, the Ricoh KR10 was partially solar-powered back in the film days.

Oh yes there are finite limits - Much of my post was obviously in good humour, though I'm sure we'll get close on some fronts. There's plenty of room left for development of batteries and energy sources - It'd be ironic in a strange way, if a device designed to 'capture' light to make a picture could utilise it to power the camera as well. Leave you pretty well stuffed in low light though. :p

Rhys
04-08-2008, 08:24 AM
Oh yes there are finite limits - Much of my post was obviously in good humour, though I'm sure we'll get close on some fronts. There's plenty of room left for development of batteries and energy sources - It'd be ironic in a strange way, if a device designed to 'capture' light to make a picture could utilise it to power the camera as well. Leave you pretty well stuffed in low light though. :p

I'm not sure of the number of the Ricoh camera I remember. I now know it wasn't the 10. I wonder if it was the 70X now. Anyhow, it had a solar panel on each side of the pentaprism that assisted the battery and could prolong the life of the battery in the camera. Considering such batteries did not last long anyway and cost a lot of money (well watch batteries still do in Britain), it was quite innovative.

I note that cameras now use less power than ever before. I also note that solar panels are getting ever more efficient. A few years ago we would not have dreamed there would be commercially available solar-powered AA battery chargers. Now they exist. Having said that, I built my own and used it to recharge my mobile phone. It took about a week on a not very sunny windowsill to charge it enough to give me a 15 minute phonecall.

Paradox
04-08-2008, 09:49 AM
To get all the 'Green' (That's a laugh but yea) sources of power going in homes the government really needs to take tax of them - things like solar panels and the small windmills you can buy - At current prices they're just not worth it. Knock the taxes off and they might be. But that's never going to happen.

But anyway, I feel we (I) stray from the point at hand. :p

Rhys
04-08-2008, 01:18 PM
I had one of the Maplin solar panels that I bought in a Maplin sale about 20 years ago. Never really had much use for it - bought it because I thought it would be fun to run my model railway off it. Turned out - not enough power. It's a good panel but not a great one to leave outside - it's not that robust.

DonSchap
04-08-2008, 01:59 PM
A solar-powered darkroom?

Most of the time, it is advisable not to leave your camera out in the sun or in the cold, either. Most DSLR and P&S begin to have operational issues under 32° F (That's 0° C for you "across the pond"-ers). And plastic just plain warps or begins to melt into slag above 140° F (60° C).

I suppose you could have a solar power recharging stand for your batteries, though. I use them for my "house-batteries", in the RV. Works pretty well. 80W per panel @ 15v = 4.67 amps. That'll keep your juices flowing.

Rhys
04-08-2008, 02:25 PM
Lol. I remember my darkroom. I used to use it at night and the sodium streetlamps were enough to illuminate the room brightly but they didn't fog the paper. Very interesting and after I found that, I didn't bother about blacking out the bathroom. It was very liberating.

Meanwhile, I have a friend in France who powers his entire farm off solar and wind energy - including charging his batteries and his laptop etc. His website: www.lesguis.com

Visual Reality
04-08-2008, 04:58 PM
Most of the time, it is advisable not to leave your camera out in the sun or in the cold, either. Most DSLR and P&S begin to have operational issues under 32° F (That's 0° C for you "across the pond"-ers).
Not this one:

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_nikon_d300_antartica.php