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FLiPMaRC
03-27-2008, 08:39 AM
Adobe launches free online Photoshop

Link: https://www.photoshop.com/express/landing.html

Adobe has released its Photoshop Express web-based imaging application as a public beta. Photoshop Express uses much of Adobe’s image editing technology and has been repurposed as a web-based application. Users can store up to 2GB of images online for free, make edits to their photos and share them online. Photoshop Express also allows users to download and upload photos from popular social networking sites like Facebook. The application provides ’standard edits’, such as removing blemishes and red-eye, converting to black and white, cropping and resizing.

http://studiografiko.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/photoshop-express.jpg

Photoshop Express also offers tricks like Pop Color which selects an object in an image, mutes the background colour of the photo and allows the user to swap the object’s colour so that it “jumps off the page”. Sketch effects make photos look like drawings, and a Distort feature allows users to distort facial features or objects for a comical or artistic effect. Adobe said that even users with limited photo editing knowledge can simply select what looks best from a line-up of sample photos with visual hints showing different variations of the added effect. During the public beta period, Adobe will solicit user feedback on product features and functionality which will “continue to evolve over time”.

M5MAN
03-27-2008, 08:52 AM
Surely as more people use this, less will buy the product off the shelf so they will loose out on licence fees??

One to put in favouites I think :D

stever06
03-27-2008, 09:45 AM
"Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

:eek: You get what you pay for.

AdamW
03-27-2008, 11:22 AM
"Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

:eek: You get what you pay for.

That's pretty appalling.

JTL
03-27-2008, 11:31 AM
"Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

:eek: You get what you pay for.More like...what you don't get paid for!!!!

So, all it really is: A royalty-free stock photo scam! http://www.dcresource.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gifhttp://www.dcresource.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gifhttp://www.dcresource.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif

More reason for me to dislike Adobe...

cdifoto
03-27-2008, 11:38 AM
So basically it has all the features of Google Picasa, except Adobe steals usage rights of your pics. Photographers won't use it but clueless pre-teens will.

erichlund
03-27-2008, 11:40 AM
Surely as more people use this, less will buy the product off the shelf so they will loose out on licence fees??

One to put in favouites I think :D

Just looking at that interface, I would say that anyone who fails to buy photoshop because of this is saving Adobe a ton of money in idiot support calls. It has some basic editing functions, but it's not photoshop.

fionndruinne
03-27-2008, 11:43 AM
Wow, that's a joke, right?

*stares in disbelief*

M5MAN
03-27-2008, 11:45 AM
I do have Adobe 7.0 but I didnt make them richer with a licence fee if you know what I mean...

David Metsky
03-27-2008, 12:39 PM
I do have Adobe 7.0 but I didnt make them richer with a licence fee if you know what I mean...
Those of us who write software for a living are quite impressed with your thrift.

JTL
03-27-2008, 12:55 PM
Those of us who write software for a living are quite impressed with your thrift.It bugs me too. As far as I'm concerned, it's no different than robbing it off a store shelf.

GaryS
03-27-2008, 01:06 PM
But its nice of them to admit it, so that I know who to ignore when they are looking for free advice....

Screenclutter
03-27-2008, 05:05 PM
It is way more convienient to do it on your home computer with installed software. I can see myself having 3 or 4 copies of the original photo on my hard drive as I tinker around with it.

Besides, most casual users won't need more than Photoshop elements, which is cheaper than most dSLR lenses and point-and-shoot cameras out there.

DonSchap
03-27-2008, 05:18 PM
I'm not losing sleep for software producers ... after the rape of the innocents by the likes of Microsoft, Adobe, and Autodesk. They could sell their product for half the price and still done quite decently in the market.

Software gave us a pathway for viruses ... another wonderful aspect of daily life in IS. :(
And I've lost more than enough sleep with that nonsense.

Hell, I'm giving away stuff ... because it's often the decent thing to do. You don't always have to profit from your skills. Sometimes, just being a decent human being is reason enough. A gift from God.

Hmpph - :rolleyes: ::: shakes head and walks off ::: leaving only one pair of footprints in the sand (http://www.markhargrave.com/index_012.htm) :::

Rhys
03-28-2008, 09:20 AM
I do have Adobe 7.0 but I didnt make them richer with a licence fee if you know what I mean...

So basically you're admitting in public to being a thief!

jcon
03-28-2008, 02:52 PM
I do have Adobe 7.0 but I didnt make them richer with a licence fee if you know what I mean...

Thief.....

gmtech79
03-28-2008, 08:28 PM
Have a look here (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=74&catid=683&threadid=1349051&enterthread=y) sounds like they are gonna redo thier terms of service.

Turo
03-30-2008, 10:12 AM
Have a look here (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=74&catid=683&threadid=1349051&enterthread=y) sounds like they are gonna redo thier terms of service.

Yes, it looks like they are going to fix it.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080329-adobe-joins-list-of-companies-not-reading-own-eulas.html

JTL
03-31-2008, 01:10 PM
The question is: Why were the terms of service written in such a way to begin with and who approved them? Look for even snarkier legalese the next time around. Unless they explictly state what they won't do or can't do with the images, then all the mumbo jumbo in the world won't protect the photographer's rights.

JTL
04-07-2008, 02:18 PM
Some of the revised terms are posted here:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0804/08040701adoberights.asp (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0804/08040701adoberights.asp)

Still, this does not go far enough. It lets Adobe off the hook for misuse of images by "sublicensees" (affiliates, subcontractors and agents in Adobe's langauge). It is a giant gaping loophole that any first year law student should have been able to catch. Although, the oversight may have been intentional...but then I would have expected a 'hold harmless" clause to specifically addess this. Which leads me back to it just being sloppy work.

Specifically, the statement in question:

"These limited licenses do not grant Adobe the right to sell or otherwise license Your Content or Your Shared Content on a stand alone basis."

The statement should have been amended to read as follows:

"These limited licenses do not grant Adobe or its sublicensees (affiliates, subcontractors and agents) the right to sell or otherwise license Your Content or Your Shared Content on a stand alone basis."

It's really pathetic that a company such as Adobe can't get a lawyer competent enough to write a simple sentence.