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bobc4d
01-08-2008, 06:49 PM
how do you/can you know how many shutter releases your camera (a camera) has on it ?

VTEC_EATER
01-08-2008, 06:53 PM
I'm not sure if the D40 will encode the shutter actuation number in the RAW file or not. My D50 put the number in the RAW file, but not the jpeg.

The D300 keeps a shutter count in its regular menu under the "Battery Life" sub menu. So thats nice.

jcon
01-08-2008, 07:13 PM
I use a program from Opanda called IExif. It will list how many shutter releases the camera has buy loading a picture into the program. Its a free program and can be downloaded from here..


http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/index.html

K1W1
01-08-2008, 07:30 PM
how do you/can you know how many shutter releases your camera (a camera) has on it ?

If you set the image numbering on the camera to continuous rather than the default (which is to reset to 0001 each time a new card in inserted or the card is formatted) the camera will number the images up to 9999 then reset to 0.
My current images are in the range of _4670 which means 14670 shutter releases approximately (I probably have another 100 or so from before I set the menu).
For me that's close enough and I don't have to worry about viewing Exif data in software programs.

LR Max
01-08-2008, 09:26 PM
About 58,000 on my D70s and about 6,000 on my D300.

On the D300, I shot 4,000 of those photos in the last 3 weeks.

Geoff Chandler
01-08-2008, 10:58 PM
So what are we saying here?
When you reach your quota of shutter releases you need to take your camera for a service?

K1W1
01-09-2008, 01:12 AM
So what are we saying here?
When you reach your quota of shutter releases you need to take your camera for a service?

It seems to be something a lot of people get hung up about I guess either from the "is my camera wearing out" point of view or from the "mine is bigger (well has more shutter releases anyway) than yours" view.
Maybe those with lots of releases should be looked on as shutter release gods?
The only time I can see the shutter release number being relevant is if I were buying a used body so I could at least gauge the amount of use as well as a visual inspection to see the type of use.
Personally I don't care, if my camera breaks it breaks and if it needs a service I should be able to tell from the image quality or because of some mechanical problem rather than because I have noticed that it has reached a magic number.
There again how often are you supposed to change the oil on these things anyway and should you use full synthetic or mineral oil?

Esoterra
01-09-2008, 08:34 AM
I use a program from Opanda called IExif. It will list how many shutter releases the camera has buy loading a picture into the program. Its a free program and can be downloaded from here..


http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/index.html

Hey Jcon can you be more specific about where you get the total shutter count with IExif? I downloaded the lastest freeware version and loaded in the last JPEG I took from my D200. When I look thru the information, I do not see total shutter releases, or anything refering to it. Thanks for your response.

swpars
01-09-2008, 08:40 AM
I have 3300 now on my D40 (purchased 10/5/07).

herc182
01-09-2008, 08:53 AM
i would only be interested for interests sake!

as mentioned, very useful for buying a second hand body

This program also tells you

http://drchung.new21.net/previewextractor/

Esoterra
01-09-2008, 09:25 AM
i would only be interested for interests sake!

as mentioned, very useful for buying a second hand body

This program also tells you

http://drchung.new21.net/previewextractor/


Yes, thanks for the link to the program. I have had my D200 for 15 months and I have 51209 shutter releases to date. I thought it was more than that... kind of relieved (dont know why since it doesnt really matter). So I figure I have another 50,000 shots left lets hope :)

herc182
01-09-2008, 09:29 AM
again out of interest, how many is the D80 built for? is it half that of the D200? (about 50000)?

jcon
01-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Hey Jcon can you be more specific about where you get the total shutter count with IExif? I downloaded the lastest freeware version and loaded in the last JPEG I took from my D200. When I look thru the information, I do not see total shutter releases, or anything refering to it. Thanks for your response.

Chris, sorry for the late reply. I noticed today that some photos that were edited would not hold that specific info in the EXIF, but if its straight out of camera, it will show in the program. Here is a screen with red arrows pointing to where its located....

K1W1
01-09-2008, 01:48 PM
The shutter count is stored by Nikon in a non standard Exif field because it is there for Nikons Service Department use not for public consumption.
Many editing programs strip out non standard fields when they save so if you do want to look the best thing to do is take a jpeg photo and look at the data without editing the photo on any way.

mugsisme
01-09-2008, 03:38 PM
My camera will be a year old at the end of Feb. I do the continuous count. 13,178, give or a take a little. :D Uh, is that a lot? :D

bobc4d
01-09-2008, 07:21 PM
thanks for all the replys. I was just curious about it. thanks for the link to preview extractor, it gave me exactly what I was looking for.

diffusedmind
01-10-2008, 07:06 AM
The D50 does encode the shutter count in JPEGs. Mine is around a year old, and 1870 shutter clicks.

tcadwall
01-10-2008, 09:25 AM
herc,

The D80 should do 50k - of course some will see 100k. The D70s was expected to run 75k I think, but that wasn't a number I could find from Nikon. I think they do actually post expectations on the higher end lines D3,D300 for instance. I remember being told that the D70s had a higher end shutter mechanism than the D50 when I was shopping, but that was 1.5 years ago. I know that I have heard of D70s making it beyond 100k... Most people are ready for an upgrade before they hit a mechanical limit.

I have shot 13347 by the way - and I consider that to be quite a few for the 19.5 months that I have had it. Mugsisme is pretty crazy with the trigger finger in comparison!

K1W1
01-10-2008, 09:09 PM
I remember being told that the D70s had a higher end shutter mechanism than the D50 when I was shopping, but that was 1.5 years ago.

So let me get this correct. :D
You were in a store comparing a D50 and a D70s and the sales person just happened to mention that the D70s (the older model camera that may well have had a sales bonus on it) had a "better" shutter mechanism than the D50.
Let me think about that a bit more while I duck under the pink pigs that are flying around my office at the moment. :D:D

As far as I know Nikon have NEVER OFFICIALLY released MTBF information for consumer level DSLR's. Once again through the joy of the Internet we have all been told that somebodies friend knows a bloke who was having a affair with the cleaner at Nikons advertisng agency in Turkmenistan and she saw a document that PROVED what the MTBF on a particular camera was. We all know the stories.
It's widely assumed that the MTBF of ALL consumer grade Nikon DSLR's is 50,000 shutter releases but in reality that is simply a statistical average and one camera may last 20,000 clicks whilst the next camera off the production line may last 150,000. There is no way of knowing and there is no point in worrying about it. When it dies it dies and at that point the owner needs to decide whether a repair or a replacement is in order.

tcadwall
01-11-2008, 07:10 AM
You were in a store comparing a D50 and a D70s and the sales person just happened to mention that the D70s (the older model camera that may well have had a sales bonus on it) had a "better" shutter mechanism than the D50.

Actually, there have been more than one review that has stated that the D70s is built more rugged than the D50. I personally think that both cameras are pretty rugged. I find the D70s under personal inspection to be beefier in many ways, hinges, etc. as well. I recall, but can't quote where I found the information regarding the shutter mechanism... In any case, If someone is having shutter failure at 20k shots, they are getting ripped off.