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mjmuscato
01-03-2008, 05:41 PM
I saw a beautiful, huge full moon a few weeks ago. I ran in the house and grabbed the Canon S5 IS. But as I started taking shots I quickly saw that the moon came out as just a blown out white blob, with no detail. I assume this is an issue with the white balance? Any tips on how to zoom this bad boy in on the moon and get some shots that show a little detail other than this blown out mess? Is it as simple as mounting this guy on a tripod and going for a long exposure, or will white balance still cause problems even in that case?

seo
01-03-2008, 05:45 PM
This is not a white balance problem. The Moon is a sunlit object. Your meter was fooled by all of the darkness around it and your shot is overexposed. Use exposure compensation or try manual until you can see the details of the moon.

mjmuscato
01-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Thanks for the tip. When the rain clears up down here I'll give it a spin.

Bynx
01-03-2008, 07:01 PM
The easiest way to shoot the moon is to have someone you know turn around, bend over, drop their drawers. You be sure to use a wide angle lens. :eek:

D Thompson
01-03-2008, 07:33 PM
The easiest way to shoot the moon is to have someone you know turn around, bend over, drop their drawers. You be sure to use a wide angle lens. :eek:

lol, you beat me to it! :D:D

Rhys
01-03-2008, 07:50 PM
The easiest way to shoot the moon is to have someone you know turn around, bend over, drop their drawers. You be sure to use a wide angle lens. :eek:

You just reminded me of something....

Ages ago I knew a lady that ran a secondhand women's clothes shop. I used to pop in and chat with her as running a shop is largely about sitting there with nobody in the shop.

Anyhow a couple of women came in and one - the larger lady - tried on a pair of jeans and asked her friend the immortal question "does my arse look big in this". Her friend lied, saying "no - i don't think so. You look really good in that". I looked and thought of elephants and barn doors as comparisons but kept zipped.

Rooz
01-03-2008, 09:34 PM
I saw a beautiful, huge full moon a few weeks ago. I ran in the house and grabbed the Canon S5 IS. But as I started taking shots I quickly saw that the moon came out as just a blown out white blob, with no detail. I assume this is an issue with the white balance? Any tips on how to zoom this bad boy in on the moon and get some shots that show a little detail other than this blown out mess? Is it as simple as mounting this guy on a tripod and going for a long exposure, or will white balance still cause problems even in that case?

its not a long exposure, its actually quite a fast shutter speed of around 1/125s minimum. spot meter, sunlight WB, around f8, iso100.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/2117782934_12ffed5937_o.jpg

TheMayer78
01-04-2008, 12:04 AM
Rooz, was that moon shot taken with your nikon? I have seen it before I think and I admire the detail. This is the best I have gotten with My S5. I would love to be able to capture as much detail as that with my S5, I don't know if that's even possible.


http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/ccfishkeepers/IMG_0480.jpg

Tv 1/80, Av f8.0, Center Weighted Light Meter, ISO 80, full digital zoom, Auto white balance, manual focus (all the way out of course), no tripod (leaned against brick column).

Happy New Year!

Rooz
01-04-2008, 01:39 AM
Rooz, was that moon shot taken with your nikon? I have seen it before I think and I admire the detail. This is the best I have gotten with My S5. I would love to be able to capture as much detail as that with my S5, I don't know if that's even possible.


Tv 1/80, Av f8.0, Center Weighted Light Meter, ISO 80, full digital zoom, Auto white balance, manual focus (all the way out of course), no tripod (leaned against brick column).

Happy New Year!

thanks. :)

i've seen some cracking moon shots with the s3 so am sure you can get it done with the s5. your image could use a faster shutter speed cos its a little bright. that will help with camera shake aswell. i'd even consider going up to 1/250s. i remember a few full moon shots i took and i was using a 1/340s shutter speed...thats how bright a full moon can be on a clear night.

keep in mind that with a full moon you seem to get less detail than with a partial moon. i'm sure theres a logical reason for that...i just don;t know what it is. lol

seo
01-04-2008, 09:27 AM
thanks. :)



keep in mind that with a full moon you seem to get less detail than with a partial moon. i'm sure theres a logical reason for that...i just don;t know what it is. lol

I think it's because of the angle of the sunlight on the moon, it's at more of an angle, which cast more shadows and shows the texture of the surface better.

Bynx
01-04-2008, 10:19 AM
The best definitions of the moon is along the line separating the light and dark. If the moon could be shoot every couple days for a complete cycle and all the sections beside the line put together I think it would be an incredibly defined picture.

JLV
01-04-2008, 01:28 PM
I saw a beautiful, huge full moon a few weeks ago. I ran in the house and grabbed the Canon S5 IS. But as I started taking shots I quickly saw that the moon came out as just a blown out white blob, with no detail. I assume this is an issue with the white balance? Any tips on how to zoom this bad boy in on the moon and get some shots that show a little detail other than this blown out mess? Is it as simple as mounting this guy on a tripod and going for a long exposure, or will white balance still cause problems even in that case?

If your camera has spot or center metering and focus, try it. This may give you what you are looking for.

Idnas71
01-04-2008, 09:57 PM
How would you suggest better results on a picture like this, when the moon is not the only subject of the photo? I hate that it just looks like a giant spotlight.

This was taken with a Canon S3, and obviously just handheld as it's a little blurry. I still like the picture, though, as a reminder of my visit to beautiful Budapest.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/Idnas71/Central%20Europe%202007/IMG_0923.jpg

Bynx
01-04-2008, 11:17 PM
You have a lot more control over the exposure of your pics than you think.

Hot Sot
01-05-2008, 04:28 AM
32090Here is my first try at the moon. Wrat do you think?:)

Idnas71
01-05-2008, 08:50 AM
You have a lot more control over the exposure of your pics than you think.

OMG... how did you do that? lol! Can you send me two 8x10's, please? :)

Just kidding... but only half-way. I'd certainly pay you for the service.

mjmuscato
01-05-2008, 03:29 PM
Rooz, was that moon shot taken with your nikon? I have seen it before I think and I admire the detail. This is the best I have gotten with My S5. I would love to be able to capture as much detail as that with my S5, I don't know if that's even possible.


I'll be happy if I can get to the detail you've got here. Looks like a good starting spot. I was stuck on the idiotic notion that since I was taking a night shot I needed a long exposure; sometimes you just need a good whack upside the head to get those synapses to fire correctly and start that whole "thinking" thing.

sparkie1263
01-21-2008, 09:22 PM
First try at winter moon. What do you think??

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2332/2211464936_2225a085d3_o.jpg

Graystar
01-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Look here to see what kind of moon shot you can get with a 1000mm focal length.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=26427808
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Squirt
01-22-2008, 11:54 AM
You are actually taking a photograph of sunlight being reflected by the surface of the moon. You basic ball park setting would be 1/(ISO) for a shutter speed and an aperture of F/16, a basic well lit setting for full sun. If you are using ISO 200 your exposure would be 1/200 of a second using F/16 if you are shootting close to a full frame image of the moon.

TheWengler
01-22-2008, 06:32 PM
I've tried this a few times. Here is my best result. Shooting info: 1/125, f/11, ISO 200, 450mm, used a tripod, no IS. I had to crop quite a bit and sharpen it in pp.

sugarqfx
01-22-2008, 08:59 PM
this is my moon shot taken with a kodak z712is full optical and digital zoom

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/4/1/22/f_1007947m_e2d44ad.jpg

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/1/22/f_1009045m_1c81b42.jpg

fotogmarc
01-22-2008, 10:30 PM
I need some help with the moon or I'm going to start howling.:D

Using Oly E500 with 40-150mm, skylight 1A filter and tripod.
Have tried every setting that's been suggested and then some.
Have used combos of all Ap and shutter speeds from f8 to f22 and 1/60 to 1/1250. ISO 100.
Noise reduction on and off, Mirror vibration reduction on and off. Zoom from 100 to 150 (actual 200 to 300). All I get is noise, and I'm talking large amounts.:confused:

I've seen some decent shots taken with the same gear, so there's something I'm missing.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Rooz
01-23-2008, 04:57 AM
I've tried this a few times. Here is my best result. Shooting info: 1/125, f/11, ISO 200, 450mm. I had to crop quite a bit and sharpen it in pp.

thats an outstanding shot Lukas.

Rooz
01-23-2008, 05:01 AM
I need some help with the moon or I'm going to start howling.:D

Using Oly E500 with 40-150mm, skylight 1A filter and tripod.
Have tried every setting that's been suggested and then some.
Have used combos of all Ap and shutter speeds from f8 to f22 and 1/60 to 1/1250. ISO 100.
Noise reduction on and off, Mirror vibration reduction on and off. Zoom from 100 to 150 (actual 200 to 300). All I get is noise, and I'm talking large amounts.:confused:

I've seen some decent shots taken with the same gear, so there's something I'm missing.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

manual mode
f8-f11 depending on your lens
1/125-1/400s this will depend on the phase, (brightness), of the moon
lens fully extended
spot meter
iso100
tripod if you have no VR

this one was taken tonite @ 1/320s f8.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/2214413780_254b06849c_o.jpg

TheWengler
01-23-2008, 11:34 AM
thats an outstanding shot Lukas.

Thank you very much. I think I saw one of yours awhile back and had to give it a shot. :)

n20capri
01-23-2008, 12:39 PM
I think this is the best I can do with my little 18-50 sigma...wish I had more zoom...lol

hand held @ F8 1/250...it was super bright
http://www.mikemartinelli.com/ImageFolders/_Photography/Moon1-21-08.jpg

Zeva
01-25-2008, 07:25 PM
What if you dont have spot metering as in 20D haha

toriaj
01-25-2008, 10:04 PM
I think if you took several photos, some at f/8 and at f/11 with a range of shutter speeds from 1/125 to 1/400 sec., as per Rooz's recommendations, you could pick the one that was exposed correctly yourself instead of having spot metering. Rooz, does that sound right?

Rooz
01-25-2008, 11:16 PM
I think if you took several photos, some at f/8 and at f/11 with a range of shutter speeds from 1/125 to 1/400 sec., as per Rooz's recommendations, you could pick the one that was exposed correctly yourself instead of having spot metering. Rooz, does that sound right?

yupp. spot metering isn't really all that necessary really cos you are taking full control of the exposure anyway. every time i take any moon shots i always do exactly what you recommended, i take about 5 or 6 shots and pick the best exposure. :)

AtlPikMan
01-26-2008, 04:34 PM
Canon S3...1St Time :D
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2361/2219445928_529306008a.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/2218630501_4e6e2b183c.jpg

Chem
02-18-2008, 11:56 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/307lrhc.jpg
Not bad for a Canon S2 I think.

Converted from RAW, thanks to CHDK. It messes up the exif data a bit but this was shot at iso 25, F/4.5, 1/100 sec.

toriaj
02-18-2008, 01:02 PM
Great shot, Chem. Nice clarity. I might crop out the bottom though, the sky is pretty noisy or has some kind of artifacts.

Chem
02-18-2008, 02:12 PM
Thanks toriaj. I can't see the noise in the sky the way the colors on my monitor are calibrated but you're right, when I turn the gamma up a bit there is a lot of noise. Since it was shot in RAW no noise reduction has been applied. I wasn't aware of the noise, maybe I should recalibrate my monitor.

toriaj
02-18-2008, 03:13 PM
Don't rely on my monitor for that, it's not calibrated either :p but on the other hand, I don't see noise like that on other people's pics. You could just do some noise reduction on the sky. That way it won't affect the moon detail.

cat
02-19-2008, 12:55 PM
mine from last year with a Canon S2

http://www.snappycat.co.uk/indexeclipsemontage.jpg


I did think afterwards heck I could have photoshopped that and saved myself some effort!

davidg2020
02-20-2008, 06:05 PM
You could also try shooting the moon at dusk rather than in the dead of night. This way you'll still get a bit of colour instead of jet black (you may prefer the black). Using various exposures you can get quite a wide range of effects from almost daylight to a full night-time effect.

davidg2020
02-20-2008, 06:16 PM
Just further to my previous post, this shot was taken at dusk using a Canon 20D with Tamron 200-500mm lens, 1/320 @ 6.3. I shot it raw and played with exposure in Photoshop Camera raw.

toriaj
02-20-2008, 08:16 PM
Wow. That's an amazing shot. I love the clarity you got. Do you credit that to your lens? Your incredible manual focus abilities? Any tips?

Beowulff
02-22-2008, 04:56 AM
In my opinion, a tripod is an absolute essential:
...no tripod (leaned against brick column)As is the use of the 2-second self timer.

To get the utmost clarity you need to avoid any/all vibration, which means NOT hand-holding the camera.

Cheers :)

coachmatt
02-23-2008, 09:14 AM
Just a pure amateur shot of the moon. Details below.

Camera:Canon a540
Taken 5/29/07
Shooting Mode: Shutter speed Priority
Av: 5.5
ISO: 200
Digital Zoom: 4x

twitt
02-29-2008, 11:50 AM
Took these both on the 15th february, with a 400D and a canon 70-200mm F/4L USM lens.
No P&P involved, just cropped.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/twittx/400D/moon_15th-feb_no-pp_1.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/twittx/400D/moon_15th-feb_no-pp_2.jpg

rdub202
03-20-2008, 09:49 PM
here's my best of the night:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/ataintedsunrise/Photography/DSCF0620-1-1.jpg

messing around with photobucket's new editing stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/ataintedsunrise/Photography/DSCF0620-1.jpg

best results were at f/8...1/160...ISO100
on tripod with 2 second timer

im going to shoot again when theres some shadow to see what detail i can get in there. thanks!

namesalex
04-14-2008, 07:24 PM
manual mode
f8-f11 depending on your lens
1/125-1/400s this will depend on the phase, (brightness), of the moon
lens fully extended
spot meter
iso100
tripod if you have no VR

this one was taken tonite @ 1/320s f8.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/2214413780_254b06849c_o.jpg

what lens did you use?

Rooz
04-14-2008, 10:54 PM
what lens did you use?

that is taken with the 70-200VR plus a 1.7TC. the one below is taken with the 300mmf4 plus a 1.7TC.

GaryS
04-15-2008, 10:52 AM
I didn't know we had a moon thread on the go...

I think all the advice that is needed has been given, so I won't repeat it. But I did want to throw in a collage from the eclipse this winter.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2022/2284380405_736d3bbff6_b.jpg
The moon got harder and harder to shoot as the eclipse wore on, because it was darker, harder to focus on, and it required longer shutter speeds (but not too long, because its moving).

Rooz
04-15-2008, 02:38 PM
love that Gary. if only i had the foresight to do the same. great stuff.