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shanks
01-02-2008, 04:45 PM
just wanted to drop you all a hint that there will be a replacement for the a100 due out in a couple of months. the a100 is discontinued but there is an entry dslr replacement slated from sony soon.

this is all the information that I have on the topic, but i will keep you all posted if i hear anything else.

Rooz
01-02-2008, 05:32 PM
there's going to be an a100 replacement ?? :eek: my goodness...never saw that coming. thanks for the scoop Clark. :p

DonSchap
01-02-2008, 06:08 PM
Well, it's not like I didn't mention this, back in November. Anyway, yeah ... still need a low priced intro-rig to avail to the teens ... and the "I must have low-cost stuff" folks. Especially in light of a barrel of oil crossing the $100 threshold! Cheese Louise! :p

It's going to cost more to drive to the camera shop than it will to order with overnight shipping! :eek:

Remember, by the time people get to the SONY DSLR forum page, the decision to buy a SONY has usually already been made, probably on the order of 90%.

I know I didn't go to the CANON DSLR page until I was well into my third Canon-mount APS-C lens. I wish I had gotten some feedback, sooner. It probably would have saved me a grunch of money ... waiting only another eight months for the SONY α100 to marry to all my older Minolta glass, instead of mistakenly settling for the Canon EOS 20D and providing folks with the deal of the year :eek: ... feeling Canon might eventually get a clue about in-the-body-IS. Good gosh, what was I thinking? LOL :D


This is more like it!


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EXIF: Taken with α100 + 17-50mm f/2.8 @ 50mm - f/13 - 1/160 sec. - ISO-100 - Studio Strobe - Manual



Who says the α100 can't take a nice lookin' shot? :confused:

SONYNUT
01-02-2008, 07:37 PM
All i want is a 20mp mamual focus mc mount camera and i'll be happy..

Rooz
01-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Who says the α100 can't take a nice lookin' shot? :confused:

way to push it to it's limits Don. lol

DonSchap
01-02-2008, 08:55 PM
Cripes ... you complain when I do push it to the bottom and then when I back off ... man, you can't even buy a break.

Anyway, I thought it was rather cool lookin' ... so I shared it.

This one was with the 50mm f/1.4 ... but, I thought the TAMRON was a better shot.



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α700 w/ SONY 50mm f/1.4


Framing could have been better ... but something about the color just wasn't there

Rooz
01-02-2008, 08:57 PM
lol i thought this would have been more appealing to a100 users.

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35133

not too much response to sony threads unless its about gear though. :eek::p

coldrain
01-03-2008, 07:01 AM
way to push it to it's limits Don. lol
That went way ober his head, Rooz.

I'd spend 1000's of dollars on camera bodies, lenses and lighting too to make bad photos of... camera bodies, lenses and such too :D

And use in-body IS while doing that (at 1/160th sec, ISO 100, 50mm!) too!

DonSchap
01-03-2008, 08:01 AM
Gotta have something to practice on.

But, then again, you're good right "out of the shute", aren't ya?

Ah me ... the days be cold ... enjoy the snow, rain or whatever else Mom Nature is tossin' your way. :D

Besides, you're just ticked about the TAMRON SP AF 180mm f/3.5 Di LD hangin' off the front of that beastie, aren't ya? (Psst ... That's okay, Coldrain, I'd be pretty torqued myself, having to use only the 90mm f/2.8 for all my macro work.)

Anyway, I'm still workin' on the lighting ... need some different diffusing. Current space is a little too tight for the umbrellas and I don't own a light tent (see "Edit"). I know, I know ... back to the studio, then.

Edit: Wound up going out for lunch to Calumet Photographic (http://www.calumetphoto.com/ctl?ac.ui.pn=search.Search&query=cocoons) and came back with a photography cocoon (aka a "light tent") and a snoot. Some lighting improvements to see ... what we can see, eh?

swpars
01-03-2008, 12:13 PM
It will be in Sony's best interests to ensure that this camera at least exceeds the Nikon D40x & Canon EOS 400D/XTi in high ISO capability.

ISO 1600 performance turned me off from getting a Sony a100 when I was DSLR shopping.

DonSchap
01-03-2008, 12:27 PM
swpars,

That is usually why I try to sway people, these days, to checking out the α700, rather than the α100. Over time, the α700 just delivers everything the normal user is looking for in a DSLR ... the α100 was just a band-aid fix to get SONY up and running with the Minolta-mount. It was never the be-all, end-all camera, although it did a decent enough intro-DSLR job to get itself voted Camera-of-the-Year 2006. :cool:

No ... for the time being ... the α700 is the only real offering, as far as SONY is concerned. The α100 has been discontinued. In a couple months, there will probably be a formal intro-DSLR for the masses.

DonSchap
01-03-2008, 08:53 PM
In an effort to clean up my act, I popped for a cocoon and maximized the use of my 750W strobes:

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and after a couple trial shots ...wound up with this (Coldrain :p ), taken with the marvelous α100:


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It's a start ... :o Note that bright blue Manual Focus band, will ya?

swpars
01-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Nice pictures Don. I will have to get my D40 & kit lens into a studio sometime and see what results I can come up with. That cheap little Nikkor is sharper than a $100 lens deserves to be.

coldrain
01-04-2008, 03:42 AM
Uhmmm Don... is that not a blue MANUAL FOCUS band?

DonSchap
01-04-2008, 06:10 AM
(Correction to text made.) Still looks nice ... man, the color pick up is spectacular, especially considering the reflective-foil nature of the "α" symbol on the α700 camera's upper right-hand corner.

Don't you just love it when the things you buy .... uh, oh yeah ... work?

Anyway ... the tent is a terrific idea ... and not too terribly expensive. I think we're looking at $80. The 750W lamps ... well, $550 a pop, on sale. :rolleyes: (Better to already have a pair of those, eh?)

They are nice, because you can dial them down (or up) ... to balance out the exposure without having to physically move them ... which can be a royal pain, in tight places.

Watch out for the modeling lamp though, as they tend to get very warm in short order ... so use them sparingly (in other words, shut them off between shots) The plastic sides of the cocoon will actually start to melt if you do not respect that. Placing a small diffusing tent on the front of the strobe will tend to mitigate some of the heat, but it is still a good practice to avoid using the modeling lamp UNTIL you are actually ready to focus.

I remember seeing this damage happen at school, where one of the younger students actually burned through the "light tent" before they even knew what they had done. Call it a "silent killer." That was it for that unit. Now, I understand why lab fees are so high. :rolleyes:

Anyway, here's the α100 w/ a TAMRON SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di MACRO

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SONYNUT
01-06-2008, 01:42 PM
tent for small item= cut up milk jug:)

DonSchap
01-06-2008, 02:31 PM
Well, the bigger one (Cocoon 130) is brouching serious funds ... roughly $255. It may be bigger, but at that cost ... I'd consider home-made, also. :)

Anyway ... I figured I'd keep trying some more pf these high-key shots:



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I think I'm going to try this as an HDR and see what happens ...

Rooz
01-07-2008, 01:02 AM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010701sonydslra200.asp

coldrain
01-07-2008, 02:36 AM
Well, the bigger one (Cocoon 130) is brouching serious funds ... roughly $255. It may be bigger, but at that cost ... I'd consider home-made, also. :)

Anyway ... I figured I'd keep trying some more pf these high-key shots:



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I think I'm going to try this as an HDR and see what happens ...
Just using a white background does not make it a high key shot...

coldrain
01-07-2008, 02:48 AM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010701sonydslra200.asp
Oh well... it is almost exactly like the A100, Sort of what Canon did with the 30D after the 20D.

Still 3fps, still the 10mp CCD, still no live view possibility (and you just know the 400D/XTi follow up will have live view...). So what you get? Slightly improved noise behavior (one can hope), a slightly bigger LCD.. and a more compact body to bring it in line with the D80/D40/400D/XTi/E-510.

Nice to see Sony finally offer a camera that can compete with the XTi/400D better, only 1.5 years after the introduction of the XTi/400D. And just a month before the XTi/400D follow-up. Now all Sony has to do is do a major revamp of theit lens line up, and they can be competitive :).

coldrain
01-07-2008, 03:50 AM
Well... don't keep your hopes up for great high ISO performance with this A200 either.

http://fabu.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/200801/07/20080107232.htm