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[user]

the problems/limitations of digital cameras are known to all of us

what I need to know is which is most easily and efficiently correctable and which is most annoying

1. purple fringing?
2. non accurate color reproduction?
3. barrel distortion?
4. blurriness/lack of sharpness?
5. noise?

what?

which can be easily corrected or avoided? either with some photoshooting technics, or with software editing?

thanks

[JTL]

the problems/limitations of digital cameras are known to all of us

what I need to know is which is most easily and efficiently correctable and which is most annoying

1. purple fringing?
2. non accurate color reproduction?
3. barrel distortion?
4. blurriness/lack of sharpness?
5. noise?

what?

which can be easily corrected or avoided? either with some photoshooting technics, or with software editing?

thanksDepending on the camera and lens you're using, shooting conditions, and a myriad of other variables, you will have none of "problems/limitations" that you state. So, what do you mean, exactly? You say the "problems/limitations" of "digital cameras" are well known to "us". Who is us? The people who don't know what they're buying? And don't you think that you are over generalizing a bit? I'm sure those of us with high-quality DSLRs and digital medium format cameras with quality lenses would not agree with such an egregious generalization. :rolleyes:

What are you SPECIFICALLY asking about? Why don't you just come out and ask what you really want instead making it into some kind of puzzle. You started another thread as well...

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34861

...and seem to be playing some kind of mystery game here. Just be straight up with the members here and they'll be straight with you. :)

[TheWengler]

What are you SPECIFICALLY asking about? Why don't you just come out and ask what you really want instead making it into some kind of puzzle.

Thank you. :)

[BBPhoto]

JTL - Well put. This 'question' is absolutely everywhere.

[zmikers]

This is almost like the question, "What camera should I buy?" I little too general. With more information and a bit more guided question, and this forum can help you loads. Don't get discouraged, just think a bit more about exactly what you need to know and I'm sure you will get all of the advice needed here.:)

[user]

nah, you are the only forum I received such attitude, bye bye ;)

[zmikers]

nah, you are the only forum I received such attitude, bye bye ;)

Sorry if my post came across as attitude. I simply meant, we would be more than happy to help, with a bit more info. Sorry M8, I realy wish you would stick around and find out that people here really are helpful. I know sometimes when reading posts you can't get the "tone" of how people are trying to give their opinions, but I assure you I am not trying o be sarcastic in any way. Sorry again!

[JTL]

Sorry if my post came across as attitude. I simply meant, we would be more than happy to help, with a bit more info. Sorry M8, I realy wish you would stick around and find out that people here really are helpful. I know sometimes when reading posts you can't get the "tone" of how people are trying to give their opinions, but I assure you I am not trying o be sarcastic in any way. Sorry again!You didn't do anything wrong and none of us had "attitude" and you have nothing to apologize for. If anything, the OP owes us an apology for the confrontational manner continually exhibited (read all of the OP's posts to see what I mean). The OP asked other questions like: "can you tell me please the best compact / ultracompact camera available today?". Like that question can be answered without any criteria.

The OP's handle, "User" seems apt indeed. In the other thread here...

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=258836#post258836

...the OP did not even have the courtesy to return to the thread and thank anyone for their responses. All too typical Internet bad behaviour...:rolleyes:

So, please don't feel bad. There's nothing to feel bad about. :)

[DonSchap]

You didn't do anything wrong and none of us had "attitude" and you have nothing to apologize for. If anything, the OP owes us an apology for the confrontational manner in which the questions are posed. The OP asked other questions like: "can you tell me please the best compact / ultracompact camera available today?". Like that question can be answered without any criteria. I mean, really. Open-ended questions like that serve only one purpose...to start fights ...

...the OP did not even have the courtesy to return to the thread and thank anyone for their responses. All too typical Internet bad behaviour...:rolleyes:

So, please don't feel bad. There's nothing to feel bad about. :)

Look ... it all gets answered, usually, despite "attitude." If you don't care for an answer ... ignore it. Heck, even the occasional prize-winning questions can get ignored or unanswered, occasionally. The main thrust I get from DCRP is "community" ... and not all neighbors are friendly. But, most that respond will attempt their level best to offered a decent answer ... or a good bit of sarcasm ... if nothing else.

Personally, I've seen other boards ... and the pointless exchanges that often take place. I have better things to do with MY time. Often, you can simply make a statement and someone will take off on it. It's "the game", I guess.

My advice is: Don't bristle, but learn what you can ... because, this is supposed to be about photography ... not how well someone can provoke someone else.

So ... what was the question? LOL :D Another pointless rant.

Oh yeah, "purple fringe" ... the bane of high contrast. Answer: Don't use the sun as a light source. (Sarcasm) Next ...

Excessive Digital Noise ... use film instead (Another example of sarcasm). Okay, the straight skinny ... keep your ISO routinely set to 400 ... no higher useless you have no choice due to a lack of light. Use "faster lenses" (f/2.8 or better) to allow the camera to not have to work so hard to capture light. Make sure shadow areas are properly exposed, as they will often show more noise ... because the camera fights for imaging in light deprived areas ... and that wonderful digital sensor starts making things up.

Barrel distortion ... unavoidable design flaw in the optics of some lenses ... get a better designed lens or one with a shorter focal length span (not sarcasm). You really should be able to BUY your way out of this problem.

Non-accurate color reproduction ... take a course in "Color Management" and get the necessary tools to align your camera, monitor and your printer all together. Use ICO paper profiles downloaded from your printer/paper manufacturer until you can provide custom profiles of your own. Check out the Eye-One Photospectrometer.

Blurriness or Lack of sharpness:
shoot a faster shutter speed Don't shoot "wide-open" (f/2.8 or wider) unless you really have to for some focal effect or low-light conditions quit moving when you hit the shutter release use a tripod don't manually focus unless you have a focusing grid in your camera body (Katz-eye) Use IS-equipped lenses or in-the-body-IS. Use better glass


Above all, don't go away mad ... just go take better images.

[JTL]

:D Another pointless rant. What would life be without a pointless rant or two? :D

I'm raising a glass to pointless rants! Cheers! :D

[zmikers]

You didn't do anything wrong and none of us had "attitude" and you have nothing to apologize for. If anything, the OP owes us an apology for the confrontational manner continually exhibited (read all of the OP's posts to see what I mean). The OP asked other questions like: "can you tell me please the best compact / ultracompact camera available today?". Like that question can be answered without any criteria.

The OP's handle, "User" seems apt indeed. In the other thread here...

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=258836#post258836

...the OP did not even have the courtesy to return to the thread and thank anyone for their responses. All too typical Internet bad behaviour...:rolleyes:

So, please don't feel bad. There's nothing to feel bad about. :)

Cool. thanks for that. I didn't think we did anything wrong but hey I thought OJ was inocent too.....LOL.....Cheers M8!:D

[JTL]

Above all, don't go away mad ... just go take better images.Do I detect some "attitude"? How dare you use irony, sarcasm, cynicism and other expressive elements in your pithy banter? An outrage, I say! Why, you'll have them leaving by the droves if you keep that up! :D:D:D

[Bynx]

Don, thanks for that course in Photography Common Sense 101. Thats a lot in a nutshell. Too bad user wont be around to read it.

[user]

Sorry if my post came across as attitude. I simply meant, we would be more than happy to help, with a bit more info. Sorry M8, I realy wish you would stick around and find out that people here really are helpful. I know sometimes when reading posts you can't get the "tone" of how people are trying to give their opinions, but I assure you I am not trying o be sarcastic in any way. Sorry again!

you did nothing and thank you very much for your post

ok, I won't leave because of few people with bad attitude, since I find that there are some people understanding and with nice manners

well, I really don't know if my question was vague (no intention), but I was talking about "everyday problems" that a photographer may come across

maybe there are decent cameras that eliminate all the problems (though I doubt they exist, and if they did they would cost alot)

even wikipedia mentions purple fringing, plus there are numerous articles of those common problems and possible solutions on the net, I really can't understand why some people react like this, I suggest them to stop polluting threads and post only if they have some arguement and contribute to the thread: if you this the thread is invalid, you will be the last able to convience other people for this, let them juts not reply

[JTL]

maybe there are decent cameras that eliminate all the problems (though I doubt they exist, and if they did they would cost alot)You seem to have misread my post and again speak in broad generalizations that are quite frankly not valid. My point was, and still is, a decent camera and lens in the hands of someone who has a clue will not have any of those "problems" you state. And any perceived limitations of high-quality gear is within the acceptable bounds of the state photographic technology and digital photography as a medium. Even film has grain. Facts of life, physics and reality...not "limitations". Limitations may exist for a given digital camera for a given purpose or situation as opposed to a different particular camera (or cameras). And, many "limitations" are of a subjective nature and many just exist in peoples' minds (again, is film grain a limitation or just a matter of understanding the physical nature of film?).

Please take half a moment to try to and understand why several people had an issue with your original post in this thread and other posts you have made. It's part of what being part of a community is about. :)

[AdamW]

You seem to have misread my post and again speak in broad generalizations that are quite frankly not valid. My point was, and still is, a decent camera and lens in the hands of someone who has a clue will not have any of those "problems" you state. And any perceived limitations of high-quality gear is within the acceptable bounds of the state photographic technology and digital photography as a medium. Even film has grain. Facts of life, physics and reality...not "limitations". Limitations may exist for a given digital camera for a given purpose or situation as opposed to a different particular camera (or cameras). And, many "limitations" are of a subjective nature and many just exist in peoples' minds (again, is film grain a limitation or just a matter of understanding the physical nature of film?).

Please take half a moment to try to and understand why several people had an issue with your original post in this thread and other posts you have made. It's part of what being part of a community is about. :)

Just where do you get off being all eloquent, reasonable, and mature? ;)

[zmikers]

the problems/limitations of digital cameras are known to all of us

what I need to know is which is most easily and efficiently correctable and which is most annoying

1. purple fringing?
2. non accurate color reproduction?
3. barrel distortion?
4. blurriness/lack of sharpness?
5. noise?

what?

which can be easily corrected or avoided? either with some photoshooting technics, or with software editing?

thanks

Let me try to explain how I feel about this, and people please correct me if I'm wrong or add to anything I have said.

I own the canon xti 400D. It is not a really expensive DSLR. It is a good entry level camera and I am very happy with it. It has pretty good High ISO capabilities which means less noise and better for low light. Many of your problems in question come from the lens rather than the camera itself and are due to certain circumsatnces and would not be problems most of the time. With modern software nowadays these can be corrected quite easily. There are a number of programs that can remove noise. lack of sharpness and blurriness are a bit harder to fix but either come from owning a cheap lens or not shooting in the right conditions, like really low light with a very slow lens and not using a tripod. This can be corrected by user knowlege or having the right lens. Anyways, glad you could stick around, I hope this helped even a little.

[JTL]

Just where do you get off being all eloquent, reasonable, and mature? ;)Hey, I like to change it up a bit now and then! :D;):D

[user]

In the other thread here...

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=258836#post258836

...the OP did not even have the courtesy to return to the thread and thank anyone for their responses. All too typical Internet bad behaviour...:rolleyes:

So, please don't feel bad. There's nothing to feel bad about. :)

you are so idiotly wrong, open your eyes and see the 'thanks' I write after my post

I was about to post something else there too, but you are THE LAST I would ever apologize

so please just dont post any more to my topics, if you are annoyed you can ignore them, stop polluting

PS: in all the things you said you are totaly wrong too, we arent all pro photographers with decent cameras, but I really have no time and willing to discuss your attidute

[Bynx]

So there! :cool:

[JTL]

you are so idiotly wrong,I know you are, but what am I?

Infinity.

:D:D:D

It's really quite amusing how ignorance and hostility seem to go together...ah...the Internet...such a lovely place!

Calling people names on this site will get you banned...so if you ever want to post here again...you will apologize for your last uncivilized post. Don't think you can just show up and behave like that and not have any consequences.

There are people here who have contributed time and money for many years to make this a valuable place. It is you who are "polluting" with your hostility and uncivilized behavior.

I'm watching you.

[BBPhoto]

This all makes me think of something. Anyone know how long Coldrain is banned for?

[fionndruinne]

I don't think CR is still banned. But I'm not positive on that.

Well, I came to this thread a little late, but it's certainly been entertaining to read. It's weird to me how, when someone comes asking for information, i.e. asking a favor, he or she can then get all umbrageous (there's a two-fifty word for you :p) at what he or she gets. It's just odd.

I do rather like how the DCRP's character comes across so immediately that it only takes a few posts for those with lesser internet manners to act up. Guys... it's a weird world out there; better keep your cameras close to hand.;)

[D Thompson]

um·bra·geous (ŭm-brā'jəs)

1. Affording or forming shade; shady.
2. Easily offended; irritable.


Guess you meant #2. ;)

[zmikers]

Well Don and I both offered some info that might help User earlier in the thread (Don's probably more useful than mine:p) but infortunately that information has been ignored and the op has favoured the other side of this thread instead of actually trying to find an answer to his question. Unfortunate really.

[erichlund]

the problems/limitations of digital cameras are known to all of us

what I need to know is which is most easily and efficiently correctable and which is most annoying

1. purple fringing?
2. non accurate color reproduction?
3. barrel distortion?
4. blurriness/lack of sharpness?
5. noise?

what?

which can be easily corrected or avoided? either with some photoshooting technics, or with software editing?

thanks

Since everyone else here seems to want to be a question lawyer, I'll try and answer.
1. Easy - lots of software (well, Nikon CaptureNX for sure) does this automatically. Ghosting and flare are more difficult, so use a lens hood.
2. Generally, this is more likely a white balance issue, though there are other causes. It can be very easy to very, very difficult. The cause is usually incorrect camera settings or improper exposure, so it's correctible by avoidance.
3. Barrel Distortion can be of simple type or complex. Simple is fairly easy to correct, complex is near impossible. It can also vary in extremes. To avoid, use a quality lens that does not exibit distortion.
4. Blurriness and lack of sharpness can have several reasons. It can be easy if the reason is that the photo is not yet sharpened. If the photo is out of focus or has motion blur, it is impossible to fix. Focus, use a tripod, sharpen in post processing as the last step before publishing.
5. Noise can be corrected to a point, even in fairly extreme amounts. But, any noise removal will also remove detail, so the greater the noise, the greater the loss of detail when corrected. Use a lower ISO number to avoid noise and use proper exposure. Under exposed is the greatest cause at low ISO values.

[user]

thanks all that contributing valuable information and arguements

it's sad that the interested was focused a specific person's behaviour, I hope it won't happen again

[JTL]

it's sad that the interested was focused a specific person's behaviourYes, indeed. Yours! ;)

[user]

I can't believe you continue to play lol ;)

[Bynx]

Isnt there a way to lock this thread? Questions were asked and answered and the mud has flown. You wasted some valuable shooting time while the light was good.

[D Thompson]

Isnt there a way to lock this thread? Questions were asked and answered and the mud has flown. You wasted some valuable shooting time while the light was good.
If you feel a thread is going nowhere then click the exclamation point next to the post number which will bring it to Jeff's attention. He can then decide whether to lock it or not and only he has the power.

[fionndruinne]

I'd just get used to it - this sort of thing happens kind of a lot around here. Trying to police things by reporting every little spat will keep your finger off the shutter button for a longer period of time than simply ignoring it will.

[tim11]

If you think DCRP is bad then you haven't seen anything....
It's just JTL being JTL. Really any devils can't be too bad when you get to know them. :D

[Nickcanada]

I can't believe you continue to play lol ;)



Just two people blowing off some steam. Don't worry about it folks. :D