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Not sure if any of you have seen this before but its pretty awesome.
http://www.drublair.com/comersus/store/tica.asp
http://airbrushworkshops.com/images/ticastepwebOpt.jpg
TheObiJuan
10-10-2007, 04:48 PM
Without seeing an unedited video of his work I have a hard time believing that is real.
It's too perfect.
:confused:
tim11
10-10-2007, 05:11 PM
70 hours! Wow... but the result is worth it. That's the woman in my dream. :p
Nickcanada
10-10-2007, 05:22 PM
Wow, what a waste of time. I guess this guy is one shy lonely man. Go out and take a picture of a real person! :D jk....... sorta......
I can appreciate the skill needed to do that but really.......
Being an airbrush artist for 40 years I can really appreciate the talent of Dru Blair. He is a legend in the world of air brush art. Thanks for making him available to others.
D Thompson
10-10-2007, 07:06 PM
That's pretty awesome.
Here's a link http://www.bertmonroy.com/fineart/text/fineart_damen.htm to a pretty good digital artist. I recently attended a Photoshop seminar that featured him. While most of his techniques were creating from scratch, there was a lot you could apply to photography.
D Thompson the photorealistic image of the woman is not digital art in any way. It was created with an airbrush and the tools used by the airbrush artist such as frisket and xacto knife etc. I imagine it was posted here because it looks so much like a photograph.
NickCanada, thats the stupidest statement Ive seen in a long time. Creating a work of art is never a waste of time. You might have an issue with photorealism but it is an art, a very detailed art. Its a shame you have no appreciation for the talent it takes to create it in spite of saying you do.
D Thompson
10-10-2007, 09:59 PM
D Thompson the photorealistic image of the woman is not digital art in any way. It was created with an airbrush and the tools used by the airbrush artist such as frisket and xacto knife etc. I imagine it was posted here because it looks so much like a photograph.
thanks for pointing that out to me and my post is edited now.
That digital picture by Bert Monroy was very impressive. All created in Illustrator and Photoshop. Looking through the numbers was mind boggling. The detailed photos that followed were outstanding. That is one sweet picture. But I feel that had he done a human face it would have looked like a good piece of digital art but not a photograph like Dru Blair has created. Thanks for the link to Monroy.
D Thompson
10-10-2007, 10:48 PM
That digital picture by Bert Monroy was very impressive. All created in Illustrator and Photoshop. Looking through the numbers was mind boggling. The detailed photos that followed were outstanding. That is one sweet picture. But I feel that had he done a human face it would have looked like a good piece of digital art but not a photograph like Dru Blair has created. Thanks for the link to Monroy.
They are both very impressive in what they do. I'd say you're right that if Monroy did a human face it would appear digital. I would venture to say that it would look like a photo that had been manipulated rather than a total digital brush creation.
He wowed me at the seminar. He recreated some of the parts of that image as he was explaining some of his techniques. Made it look very easy & simple :rolleyes: . Some of the stuff he taught I doubt I ever use, but I think some will be able to be applied in the photography side.
I once had a job photographing car lots up for sale. Creating doors, windows and signage for the new look in Illustrator, I applied them to the photo to show the auto company how it would look after the remodelling. It all had to look natural and with photorealism. It was a piece of cake compared to doing a human face. I looked at Dru Blairs photo again up close and its the most perfect painting Ive ever seen. No wonder he is a legend.
truflip
10-10-2007, 11:29 PM
Nevermind.. lol nice image!
Without seeing an unedited video of his work I have a hard time believing that is real.
It's too perfect.
:confused:I question why someone would bother, or even think, to airbrush in loose threads on the dress. Hmmmmmmmmm....
http://JTL.smugmug.com/photos/206742472-L.jpg
fionndruinne
10-11-2007, 12:11 AM
Hmmmm indeeeed.
And Bynx, lighten up a little. It's really rather easy to see how this could be taken as a waste of time. I'm an artist, so I understand the concept of putting a lot of work and effort into something.. but heck, we all do here. I think your response to Nick was a little harsh.
I dont think creating are is ever a waste of time. For that matter I dont think doing someting you love to do could ever be a waste of time either.
fionndruinne
10-11-2007, 12:57 AM
It's just the practical side of it; why try so hard to replicate something that's a lot easier to do, itself?
Which is of course blatantly inartistic, but artists who have no practicality... perish in the cold, hungry and naked, usually.:p
Of course, the same could be said of my beloved hobby... constructing a fictional language from real roots, as if it were a parallel evolution of some bona fide real languages. Now that's impracticality.:D
It's just the practical side of it; why try so hard to replicate something that's a lot easier to do, itself?
Because apparently thats what he loves to do. And following your passion is never a waste of time. Sure others can see it as a waste but thats because its not their passion to begin with. You cant calculate the value of someone elses time, not when it comes to hobbies and such.
fionndruinne
10-11-2007, 01:20 AM
Quite so, quite so. And I agree. I was just demonstrating the response taking it at face value (does that count as a pun?).
I question why someone would bother, or even think, to airbrush in loose threads on the dress. Hmmmmmmmmm....
http://JTL.smugmug.com/photos/206742472-L.jpg
Its simple....because they can. Because you and I arent capable of thinking in such detail there are those special people who can do absolutely amazing things with an airbrush or a paintbrush. Seeing is believing. But obviously you are one of those people who think the earth is flat.
Fionndruinne I will comment on anyones blatant stupidity in this forum yours included. If you want to back up someone who so easily puts down a genius' piece of art that is as stupid as the person who said it. If you cant understand photorealism then read up on it then make your comments. You say you are an artist....unbelievable. Ive been an artist since 1970, and I was paid to do it. It wasnt a hobby.
Nickcanada
10-11-2007, 09:16 AM
I'm sorry you were offended by my post Bynx. If you spend some time reading my posts you will hopefully find that this is not the first time I poked fun at someone's eccentricity. I often do the same to myself! Only you yourself can truly judge if you have wasted time doing something. As you said you can't put a value on someone else's time.
To judge something like this I take into consideration the purpose of the portrait. Is it suppose to create an emotional impact? Or is it simply a accurate reproduction of a person? I would have to say this portrait is simply an accurate reproduction. So why was it created? did the woman pay to have this image created? Is there a reason a photograph could not be made?
Looking at this portrait I get the feeling that the only reason it was made was so the creator could show off his skills. That is hardly art in my eyes. If that assumption is wrong then I would reconsider my feelings towards it.
If this guy purposely created those loose threads I'd say that only makes me feel even more like the guy is off his rocker. A truly great portrait photographer would have the vision and skill to see this imperfection and fix it before he even tripped the shutter.
And is it just me or do the catch lights in her eyes look off? Her right eye shows the light source to camera right when the left eye reflection appears to show the light source straight above the camera.:confused:
Nick I was particularly offended by your remarks about the character of the artist. Calling him shy lonely guy who should go out and photograph a real woman. The reason he did that portrait was a personal challenge to achieve perfection. If you visited his site you would see how competent he is. His eye for detail is outstanding. He spent 70 hours on that portrait.
Here is a panorama of the Damen Station on the Blue Line of the Chicago Transit Authority.
Adobe Illustrator was used for generating the majority of the basic shapes as well as all the buildings in the Chicago skyline.
The rest was created in Photoshop.
• The image size is 40 inches by 120 inches.
• The flattened file weighs in at 1.7 Gigabytes.
• It took eleven months (close to 2,000 hours) to create.
• The painting is comprised of close to fifty individual Photoshop files.
• Taking a cumulative total of all the files, the overall image contains over 15,000 layers.
• Over 500 alpha channels were used for various effects.
• Over 250,000 paths make up the multitude of shapes throughout the scene.
Visit the site and see the detailed pics of parts of the panorama. 2000 hours on a picture he could have taken a photo of in 1/250 of a second. Waste of time? How productive was your last 70 hours? What do you have to show for it?
Nickcanada
10-11-2007, 09:55 AM
I'll admit it was immature to make fun of the guy. It's nothing I wouldn't say about myself though.
I did check out his web page and yes the guy is crazy skilled!!! I applaud the guy for his attention to detail but his art doesn't appeal to me.
Analyzing the detail of his work is the same to me as obsessively pixel peeping, it's not going to make the picture any better.
"there's nothing worse than a sharp picture of a fuzzy idea" Ansel Adams.
Nickcanada
10-11-2007, 10:18 AM
Oh and about what I've been doing the past 70 hours... well besides slacking off at work I've managed to shoot and edit the photos from this (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34721) shoot. Make new contacts with some bands possibly creating more work for myself in the future. I've continued to edit the photos from this (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34675) shoot. I've also been nursing a cold since the weekend. My wife has also been feeling under the weather so I've made her a few hot chocolates. We listened to the Sens game on the radio last night because it wasn't on TV. I did some other stuff too. :D
Just imagine what I could do in 2000 hours. :p:D
DonSchap
10-11-2007, 12:34 PM
Oh and about what I've been doing the past 70 hours... well besides slacking off at work I've managed to shoot and edit the photos from this (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34721) shoot. Make new contacts with some bands possibly creating more work for myself in the future. I've continued to edit the photos from this (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34675) shoot. I've also been nursing a cold since the weekend. My wife has also been feeling under the weather so I've made her a few hot chocolates. We listened to the Sens game on the radio last night because it wasn't on TV. I did some other stuff too. :D
Just imagine what I could do in 2000 hours. :p:D
Nick ... don't be so defensive ... life isn't coming at us that fast ... only at the speed of light. :eek:
We all have the things we focus on ... and there are plenty of people out doing NOTHING worthwhile with their lives. Happily, we usually don't count ourselves among them ... nor do we regularly hang out with such types.
We all need to enjoy life ... for however long we have ... be it doing extremely intricate work ... and simply snapping what nature tosses in our direction.
Be well, all of you ... and above all else, enjoy the day! :D
Nickcanada
10-11-2007, 12:52 PM
Nick ... don't be so defensive ... life isn't coming at us that fast ... only at the speed of light. :eek:
We all have the things we focus on ... and there are plenty of people out doing NOTHING worthwhile with their lives. Happily, we usually don't count ourselves among them ... nor do we regularly hang out with such types.
We all need to enjoy life ... for however long we have ... be it doing extremely intricate work ... and simply snapping what nature tosses in our direction.
Be well, all of you ... and above all else, enjoy the day! :D
:o ya, I got a little defensive. It was the repeated "stupid" comments I got. Honestly I'm impressed with this artist. It's not my thing, but it is amazing. My original post was a joke. I thought everyone would realize that. I'll be less funny next time. :D
fionndruinne
10-11-2007, 03:16 PM
Bynx, really... tone it down, dude. That's not civil discourse. You've got to respect other points of view as well you know. I could choose to take offense at the way you treated my saying I'm an artist, and be justified in doing so. But that's not why I'm here, being offended is for those who have nothing better to do.
Like I said before, even though an artist has every right to do something they love to do, and more power to them... everything we do still has to be run through a common-sense judgment sooner or later. Common sense has to take into account the less appealing factors like time and whatever else we might be doing with it. It's an uneasy marriage between our responsibility to the muse as artists, and our responsibility to the world as denizens therein.
Bynx, really... tone it down, dude. That's not civil discourse. You've got to respect other points of view as well you know. I could choose to take offense at the way you treated my saying I'm an artist, and be justified in doing so. But that's not why I'm here, being offended is for those who have nothing better to do.
Like I said before, even though an artist has every right to do something they love to do, and more power to them... everything we do still has to be run through a common-sense judgment sooner or later. Common sense has to take into account the less appealing factors like time and whatever else we might be doing with it. It's an uneasy marriage between our responsibility to the muse as artists, and our responsibility to the world as denizens therein.
Ok lets take this step by step. First off I dont know why you poked your nose in this in the first place. This was between me and Nick. He said something I really took offense to and I said so. He has cleared that up and the matter is over.
Your saying that being offended is for those with nothing better to do. Are you for real? Sticking your nose in, now thats for someone with nothing better to do. I stood up for the integrity of someone I dont know or ever will know, but who I can admire for the talent he is.
As for your last paragraph....what can I say....could you please include a translation in plain english. A marriage between our responsibility to the muse as artists, and our responsibility to the world as denizens therein. Come on and talk english. If you read Dru Blairs website you would know why he did what he did. It was a training exercise he used in his airbrush class. When the classes were over he went on and finished the work. He then had his work published in Airbrush Magazine with detailed instructions and illustrations on how he did it. This was to aid anyone interested in airbrush art to help them along. His efforts may be from a photo he took in 1/100 of a second but I think the 70 hours he spent on the artwork was time well spent.
fionndruinne
10-11-2007, 05:19 PM
This forum doesn't belong to you any more than to me, which is why discussions are only "private" if they're done via PM. On a forum, every single thing that's said is open to all.
No artist needs a third party to stand up for his integrity. Either his work speaks for him, or it doesn't. That's that.
Everything I said was English, and shouldn't be too hard to comprehend. Maybe you don't think about the philosophy of art, but my statement is something that many artists through the history of civilization have mulled over and wrestled with.
This forum doesn't belong to you any more than to me, which is why discussions are only "private" if they're done via PM. On a forum, every single thing that's said is open to all.
No artist needs a third party to stand up for his integrity. Either his work speaks for him, or it doesn't. That's that.
Everything I said was English, and shouldn't be too hard to comprehend. Maybe you don't think about the philosophy of art, but my statement is something that many artists through the history of civilization have mulled over and wrestled with.As a fellow and somewhat established artist, I second your comments above. ;)
It seems in this forum that there are people who like to talk. Babble is more like it though. Why dont you discuss the thread rather than a conversation between myself and another member? This is an open forum but there are obvious times you just sit back and shut up if it doesnt concern you. Jumping in to muddy the waters does no one any good. Or are you one of these trolls I heard about here recently? If you just want to cause trouble then you are on your own.
Can we all agree that Dru Blairs is awesome and move on with our lives?? :D
fionndruinne
10-11-2007, 07:34 PM
Bynx, you react to disagreeing perspectives in a singularly ugly manner. That's my say, and I'm done; no need to tussle needlessly.
Dru Blair is certainly a master at his craft, that's for certain. Pretty incredible work, and dynamic enough to get discussions going as well.
tim11
10-11-2007, 07:41 PM
I can't think of real life demand for his art.
Whatever we think of him, he is a genius.
Nickcanada
10-11-2007, 08:49 PM
all I have to say is...... :rolleyes:
Can we all agree that Dru Blairs is awesome and move on with our lives?? :D
no, i think it's a waste of time and i reckon he's a shy lonely man who should photograph real women. :)
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