350D to 400D upgrade worthwhile ?

[drama]

Hi guys

Thinking of trading in my 350D for a 400D

1 AF is not accurate or reliable with faster lenses
Tried both,the 400D is undoubtedly faster & more accurate
I use the central point mostly

2 Larger LCD
Allowing me to better decide on focus accracy etc.

3 Used to & comfortable with the controls
Have a battery grip & spare battery already, so making the battery life issues moot

There is a retrospective question, as I already made the trade
350D + 50 1.8 (not using much) + 250 $

[Viky]

350D + 50mm 1.8 + $250 for a 400D:eek:

I think u paid too much:rolleyes:

[fionndruinne]

I'd wait a bit, and see what kind of price you'd get on a used 30D once the 40D comes out... and everyone flocks over to the happenin' side of the fence... over here...:rolleyes:

AF and LCD doesn't seem like that big of an upgrade to me. A better build, that might be.

[TheObiJuan]

30D used pricing has been holding strong.
The 40D was already released and it made folks sell to swap; the prices have yet to fall though.

[Gintaras]

drama, why ask if you made the trade? simply enjoy your 400D...

i agree with others, it would make sense to wait for 30D prices to go down, and it happens with retailers at the moment, 30D body is sold about 150 euros cheaper here than this was before and hopefully one can expect another 100 off. though i do not think you can buy 30D for half a price. as concerns used stuff i am not experienced in buying second hand so cannot say.

[griptape]

I'm still truckin' with my 350D. I'll upgrade it to a 20D or 30D at some point, but the better focusing (and yeah, this IS an issue on the XT, it's slow) and the higher and more quantity fps are the only things that would be a true upgrade to me. So I basically have a lot of toys in line ahead of a new body that my spare cash will go to. Unless I find that one special deal... :cool:

[Rooz]

personally, i would wait for the 30d to come down in price and go for that.

[coldrain]

I think you did a worthwhile upgrade, the AF's accuracy is worth it. And the bit extra possible resolution is a nice bonus.

Of course the 30D and especially 40D would also be very nice to have, but their are bigger and heavier too, and I rather like the small size factor to take it along anywhere.

[drama]

Thanks everyone, for the feedback :)
I notice that the senior Canon users are with me on this, the faster more accurate AF is very important, I have not seen this stressed in too many reviews

I think the view finder at least in my case is also a bit better/brighter
I could never clearly see the numbers on the view finder, even with diopteric correction, where as here it is bright & legible

Cold Rain
Thanks for confirming my doubt, I highly value your opinion

[michaelb]

I have considered this upgrade myself, versus the 30D/40D. I also have the 350D grip, but I like to have the ability to have a small camera when I need it.

I would like the larger LCD of the 400D and the improved autofocus, as well as the anti-dust feature (although I understand that it is questionable as to how well this really works).

The 30D/40D appeals to me in terms of its handling, bigger viewfinder and ease of changing settings such as EC, etc.

My main concern about the 400D is the numerous complaints about under-exposure. Some say its a big issue, others say it doesn't exist at all.

My ideal camera would be the 5D as I have no need for greater than 3fps, but the cost of the body plus new lenses makes me question whether the expense is worth the increase in IQ.

Drama - let us know what you think of the 400D as c/w the 350D. Enjoy your new camera!!

[drama]

Thanks michael b :)
I havent taken too many shots with it but I am adapting pretty easy
As I shot almost exclusively in the manual mode, I am not too worried about the underexposure, so far the results seem good

The view finder is definitely brighter & more legible, also feels wider
The body is a bit more comfortable with no more powdery marks when nails scrape the bdoy
I am planning a full comparison, after I have used the camera a bit

[fionndruinne]

I think the complaints of underexposure may be based on the fact that the kit lens is rather dark. Okay, maybe it's the viewfinder, but in that case the XTi does underexpose a little. I'm thinking lens.

[coldrain]

The XTi does not under expose. It is known that the XT, D40 and D50 (and D80 I think) overexpose just a tad. The D70 underexposes.

Apparently there have been a few XTi's that underexposed (were defective in that way) that have brought this "under exposing" internet myth to the world.

Underexposure can not be the fault of a lens, unless a lens sets the wrong aperture. And one thing is for sure, the kitlens sets the right aperture.

Under exposure with an XTi is user error, just like it is with every other DSLR.

[michaelb]

The XTi does not under expose. It is known that the XT, D40 and D50 (and D80 I think) overexpose just a tad. The D70 underexposes.

Apparently there have been a few XTi's that underexposed (were defective in that way) that have brought this "under exposing" internet myth to the world.

Underexposure can not be the fault of a lens, unless a lens sets the wrong aperture. And one thing is for sure, the kitlens sets the right aperture.

Under exposure with an XTi is user error, just like it is with every other DSLR.

When I first heard about this issue I was convinced it was user error.

However, I have seen identical photos from an XT an XTi with the same lens, same settings and from this I am convinced that some XTi's do significantly underexpose, although, as you say Coldrain, I suspect that it is likely just a certain number of XTi's that had/have this problem.

I also agree that its not the lens.

[coldrain]

My sister now has an EOS 400D, and it does not under expose. Well, many here post photos made with XTi/400D, and I have not seen many under exposed photos...

Just another internet rumor gone myth, that is my take on it.

Like I said, the XT/350D and the D50 always did over expose a tad, where the D70 actually under exposed.

[JTL]

All manufacturer's of all types of products "slipstream" improvements/adjustments into the manufacturing pipeline without announcing the changes. It’s a very common practice and usually occurs early in the product life cycle when something wasn't QA'ed quite right. So, it may be a case where some early models had some EV issue...or a particular batch had an issue. If the issue falls into the three to six sigma range...a company is likely never to "officially" acknowledge an issue, because, from a statistical standpoint, it’s not an issue. For any particular individual camera sitting on a shelf, it may well be an "issue". So, since there were early reports of the "underexposure" issue...but not a lot since, I suspect that the issue (if in fact there ever was one) has been addressed either through slipstreaming and/or attrition of the affected stock.

[GaryS]

I have not found the XTi underexposes. I have found that the light meter in evaluative mode can make mistakes in either direction when the light is harsh or otherwise difficult. In those cases I use EC, or more likely partial metering to get the result I want.

[michaelb]

All manufacturer's of all types of products "slipstream" improvements/adjustments into the manufacturing pipeline without announcing the changes. It’s a very common practice and usually occurs early in the product life cycle when something wasn't QA'ed quite right. So, it may be a case where some early models had some EV issue...or a particular batch had an issue. If the issue falls into the three to six sigma range...a company is likely never to "officially" acknowledge an issue, because, from a statistical standpoint, it’s not an issue. For any particular individual camera sitting on a shelf, it may well be an "issue". So, since there were early reports of the "underexposure" issue...but not a lot since, I suspect that the issue (if in fact there ever was one) has been addressed either through slipstreaming and/or attrition of the affected stock.

I suspect you are right on the money with this assessment.

Glad to hear that your not having any underexposure issues Dusty.

[Spookonthe8ball]

Drama, It seems strange to me someone would trade their Xti for a 350D. I guess they had their reasons. The better focusing chip in the Xti is why I bought mine instead of a 350D. I am very happy with the Xti and have no underexposure issues. I usually have to be careful not to overexpose especially in manual mode. Enjoy that new camera!
Spook

[fionndruinne]

Not to beat a dying gift horse in the mouth, but...:p

Is the somewhat dark (well, comparative to the Nikon models I have used) TTL view of the XTi the result of the lens, or the viewfinder? Not a critique, everyone knows the XTi viewfinder is not the brightest, just curious as to which element is responsible.

[drama]

The Xti view finder is fine & definitely larger & birghter than the 350D
Also brighter than the Olympus E 500
Cant find any undue underexposure on my shots, I almost exclusively use partial metering

Fionndruinne
How come you are such an expert on the 400D/350D ?

[fionndruinne]

350D, no. But I envied and pawed at my friend's XTi for months before dropping the bucks for my Nikon.

[Gintaras]

Fion, XTi viewfinder is not as bright as that found on D80 but this is not so dark either. I find it Ok though wish it would cover 100% but that’s you find only on Pro models like Mark. Where I think XTi truly sucks is LCD display. To see pix with it you must boost brightness but then you have no idea about how your photo turned out… and then if you want see how is the result you must tone down brightness from mid by a stop or two, which then makes it impossible to see the pix in bright day light. For this reason I find LCD quality mediocre on XTi…do not know if this is any better on D40 but have heard D80 gives you a better LCD. I suspect similar issue is on 30D, as one of my friends having 30D asked about a big LCD portable media player I could suggest to him which would connect to 30D for viewing pix on the go.

Apart from LCD I find no big issues on XTi, and as someone mentioned here under/overexposure is more a problem of a user, not camera. in some situations at default camera tends to underexpose by a 1/3EV, so i either turn up by 1/3 or flip into manual setting and then NO problem. :D

Unlike may be others I prefer pix look like my eye sees them in real life, no too bright colors or overly sharp... for which I find XTi a perfect cam. I also read it somewhere in the other thread here that D40 is excellent for novices because it has better program modes and exposure setting does not penalize you that much if you do something a bit wrong. Probably I will think seriously about handing my wife D40 instead of XTi no matter if I will be upgrading to 40D or 50D. I like XTi and I think if one upgrades this still can be a perfect second body for light travel kit.

[fionndruinne]

The D40 has the same LCD as the D80, if I remember rightly. It's sweet; very sharp and bright (and I've never needed to crank the brightness, I could do that too). Plus one thing that annoyed me with the XTi is the fact you can't access the photo to delete in in image review, you have to press playback in order to delete. I can delete, zoom or edit a photo as soon as I take it with the automatic picture review. Just a perk of the newer models, I suppose (or brighter thinking on the manufacturer's part).

[coldrain]

Plus one thing that annoyed me with the XTi is the fact you can't access the photo to delete in in image review, you have to press playback in order to delete. I can delete, zoom or edit a photo as soon as I take it with the automatic picture review. Just a perk of the newer models, I suppose (or brighter thinking on the manufacturer's part).
I can do that fine on my 350D though....

[fionndruinne]

That's odd. Was it a firmware update, or anything?

I don't see why Canon would be so backwards.

[coldrain]

No, it just is that way. While the photo shows for review and you press the trash button, it asks you whether to erase or to cancel.

[fionndruinne]

Can you zoom in on image review? Maybe my memory's at fault, and that was the function the XTi couldn't do.

[coldrain]

Yes, that must be it.

A whole lot less annoying for me (I almost never zoom in) than how the D40 for instance works with the WB and ISO settings though. There you just click the directional button marked "ISO" or "WB", select the settng you need, and that is it. Not so with the D40, and I find that an annoyance.

[fionndruinne]

I rarely change WB, and the D40 meter rarely steers me wrong. ISO, though I use the programmable button for, so it's just the button+wheel. Lightning-fast.

[GaryS]

You definitely can delete images in the review mode on the XTi. I do it all the time!

[drama]

You can magnify preview images & bin them too, no worries
Not so expert are we ?

I may have handled a D80 for a couple of days, that does not make me an expert on it , Please base your comments on what you know

[fionndruinne]

Now, now, drama. Everything I've said is true to the best of my knowledge; perhaps my memory is just giving out on me, but that doesn't happen all that often. I'll have to test the XTi when I see my friend again next month.

There is a certain thing that happens when one has used one camera, then handled, used and grown accustomed to others. Somewhat addled wits it may be termed.

[tom s]

400d is a nice upgrade not only because of the larger LCD, but
because of a more sophisticated AF-system (the same used in 30d).;)
If you like using your camera with fast lenses (either primes or zooms), this improvement will come handy.:)

[Gintaras]

Fionndruinne, I find strange things you mention about XTi.

1) You can delete photo in image review mode both on XT and XTi.
2) You can zoom in and zoom out with XT and XTi in image review.

I wonder HOW could you miss that if you held XTi or used it. These functions are not buried deep inside like custom functions and so easy to use them.

As concerns LCD, I have heard D80 has a better display but I am not sure that would produce enough accurate preview in which I can judge how my photo turned out… I think only D300 will come close to letting you this. I can turn up or tone down brightness of LCD on my XTi too and in brighter LCD no problem to see photos in daylight. What I meant was the ability of LCD to accurately reproduce photo so that you can judge about the outcome without having to download to PC. I do not know if your D40 gives you that ability of which I am not sure. I think it is not about brightness which confuses your eye but about more pixels for which D80 D40 and XTi have same pixel count… D300 however got super LCD which should allow for this.

NB: I cannot believe that those preview/review mode capabilities were the ones which held you off XTi… come on, do not pull my leg.:p

[Gintaras]

Fionndruinne, I would say XTi is very fine camera, D40 as well… and usually what people look when buying DSLR are picture quality, lighting meter and AF system accuracy, burst speed and etc… people do not turn down a camera for just no live preview or absent WB button. IMO :p

For me Nikon lost to Canon because of my bad memory about reds handling on Nikon cameras. Most Nikon cameras operate fine until they see red color... but when Nikon sees red color then HURRAY...anything else gets forgotten and your picture gets VERY RED reds...and if you shoot low light the noise has annoying red cast… I had no experience with Nikon DSLR but having used their excellent otherwise Coolpix series put me off Nikon for a long time no matter all Nikon advantages. See, I had serious reason to be suspicious of Nikon. And when I saw pictures of D200 from my friend, I could see that Nikon still handles reds as VERY RED!!!:(

Come on Nikon, stop pushing REDS and I might come back home… hopefully Nikon can hear!!!:eek:

[Rooz]

Fionndruinne, I would say XTi is very fine camera, D40 as well… and usually what people look when buying DSLR are picture quality, lighting meter and AF system accuracy, burst speed and etc… people do not turn down a camera for just no live preview or absent WB button. IMO :p

For me Nikon lost to Canon because of my bad memory about reds handling on Nikon cameras. Most Nikon cameras operate fine until they see red color... but when Nikon sees red color then HURRAY...anything else gets forgotten and your picture gets VERY RED reds...and if you shoot low light the noise has annoying red cast… I had no experience with Nikon DSLR but having used their excellent otherwise Coolpix series put me off Nikon for a long time no matter all Nikon advantages. See, I had serious reason to be suspicious of Nikon. And when I saw pictures of D200 from my friend, I could see that Nikon still handles reds as VERY RED!!!:(

Come on Nikon, stop pushing REDS and I might come back home… hopefully Nikon can hear!!!:eek:

i've yet to see a photo in the pic of the day thread that is too red. i think you're friend may not know what he's doing.

the nikons do have warmer tones which i prefer. so i hope nikon doesn't listen and you can stay where you are. :p

[coldrain]

Hmm Rooz, often red does get very saturated in Nikon cameras. Sometimes it does make you scratch your head. And Nikons mostly actually produce a bit cooler photos.

But the main thing is that Canon cameras mostly perform the same, where Nikon cameras differ hugely in their character from eachother.
The D100 was pretty accurate and nice in my image judgement (from what I have seen), just super soft. The D70 (and s) were very blue-ish cold, and underexposed. The D50 more in your face saturated and a tad over exposing.
The D200 leans more to the D70, but seems to do weird things with nature greens (at times making them syntetic), where the D40 and D80 more go teh D50's path.

Fion is right, he means the short review period of when you made the photo.
There you can not zoom in and out of the photo.
Which I find pretty logical though. The review does not want to get in between you and the shooting.
If you want to study and throw away the photos, you go into the review mode, where it does not matter that the focus point selection button turns into the zoom+ button.

[Rooz]

Hmm Rooz, often red does get very saturated in Nikon cameras. Sometimes it does make you scratch your head. And Nikons mostly actually produce a bit cooler photos.

But the main thing is that Canon cameras mostly perform the same, where Nikon cameras differ hugely in their character from eachother.
The D100 was pretty accurate and nice in my image judgement (from what I have seen), just super soft. The D70 (and s) were very blue-ish cold, and underexposed. The D50 more in your face saturated and a tad over exposing.
The D200 leans more to the D70, but seems to do weird things with nature greens (at times making them syntetic), where the D40 and D80 more go teh D50's path.

never used a d70 or d50. i have only ever used a d200 and d80. the rest of the dslr's i use are canon ones. reds are very red on a d80 but thats something i like. certainly the d200 and d80 are warmer than any of the canon cameras i have used, (xti, 30d, 5d). colours are easily adjustable and are based on preference anyway so i don;t think saying one camera is more cool or warm or whatever is an issue cos firstly its personal and secondly, it's easily adjustable to a persons taste. like i said in my last post, i'm yet to see a photo in the pic of the day thread from a d200/ d80 user where the reds were consistently oversaturated.

if i take a pic of a red rose or solid red then i just switch colour modes from the vivid tones of IIIa to a less saturated toning. i did an experiment on this a few months ago on the forum somewhere and i don;t have any problems taking pics of red. this comes down to knowing your equipment i suppose.

the d80 apparently overexposes, i've read that in some reviews and such. i;m yet to see it as a consistent issue. my EV is either 0 or -0.3 in some circumstances. the d200 meters better though, no doubt about that.

interestingly i've just recently been playing around with EV much more lately in the latest few strobist assignments and having a pretty good time.

[Gintaras]

Rooz, whatever you say I stand by my statement, Nikon is excellent camera which would be my camera IF not very saturated reds and warmer tones (as you said) which come from this. If you look at couple of prospero photos not HDR you can see red is way too much red in them:

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28439&d=1189345929

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28447&d=1189375435

You clearly can see oversaturated reds, especially red in second photo. And as you do not post full size photos it would be impossible to see that reddish cast in low light photos with Nikon. :(

Rooz, sorry disagreeing with you on this as otherwise Nikon is excellent camera IMO. May be D80/D40 is less addict to reds, but sample photos I saw in a few reviews told me reds are still too reds with Nikon. Mind you Nikon could be my camera otherwise as I liked D80 so much.:eek:

As for my friend, you right, he bought D200 and still has no idea what Apperture is...so here I agree.;)

Coldy, actually you can hit a delete button in preview mode on XTi IF you are quick enough… problem is preview mode shows a pix for a fraction of a second and it goes off before you are able to hit delete button. So sometimes I manage and sometimes not. However I find it funny if one ranks this particular feature over more important things.:rolleyes:

[Gintaras]

Rooz and Fion, I am not defending any brand, no interest in this and I am not paid for this. All I am interested is to share first-hand experience and listen to others experience. This helps me think about what I want and what I can. To date there was no issue with XTi which would make me wish another camera, apart from a small glitch I had once with its software. Of course as with every camera you have pros and cons… I wish XTi had AF lamp like D40/D80 which improves focusing IQ (I hate flash based AF assist) … I wish XTi could offer more solid feel to its plastic like D40, although I find durability of XTi plastic very fine, no joking and no scratches so far on my XTi.

At the end I agree, one can adjust color in camera, still if you see Canon color handling it makes this more accurate than Nikon. Making photo warm is no problem on XTi either, but you also get NO dominance of a single color over the others.

[Rooz]

Rooz, whatever you say I stand by my statement, Nikon is excellent camera which would be my camera IF not very saturated reds and warmer tones (as you said) which come from this. If you look at couple of prospero photos not HDR you can see red is way too much red in them:

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28439&d=1189345929

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28447&d=1189375435

You clearly can see oversaturated reds, especially red in second photo. And as you do not post full size photos it would be impossible to see that reddish cast in low light photos with Nikon. :(

:confused::confused: i don;t think so. there is no oversaturated reds there at all. there is a warm feeling to the photos which i find beautiful.

over saturated reds though ? i don;t think so. i've seen more red in a picture of an ocean against a bright blue sky with a blue filter attached. :p

[Gintaras]

Rooz, as usual much depends on personal liking. May be my case is specific because unlike many others I prefer colors and tones that my eye sees.

I agree with you that prospero pix are just an art... but for me that red car is too much red somehow. As concerns the sky yes, if you miss the exposure you naturally get noise and reds and all sort of artifacts...so you learning how to avoid this next time.

btw, I confess I still seriously think about getting Nikon DSLR in addition to my Canon. I like the idea to be able to choose from warm Nikon and cold Canon…when and if I do I will tell you more about head to head comparison.
:p

[coldrain]

Just that the reds are saturated does not make Nikon "warm".
Nikon always has a sort of "cool" feel to it, you see that in people photos.
shoot in standard settings and without post processing, and you will see that.
And still, different Nikon models have different characters.

Canon can be called a lot, but cool is not a word that comes to mind with well taken photos.

So, maybe yes, sometimes you see over saturated reds with Nikon. My Canon oversaturates red and orange in flowers too, I do not know what camera not do that.
Well, probably a Canon 1D(s) MK III is better there. Or maybe even a Canon 40D and Nikon D300 in 14 bits. Or maybe a Sigma SD14.

But i have to disagree with the Nikon-warm, Canon-cold theory. Just as I disagree with posts that year in year out claim Nikon having great skin tones compared to Canon. Just another one of those repeated internet myths.

[Rooz]

Just that the reds are saturated does not make Nikon "warm".
Nikon always has a sort of "cool" feel to it, you see that in people photos.
shoot in standard settings and without post processing, and you will see that.
And still, different Nikon models have different characters.

that is not true of the d80. the d80 favours the warm colours. red, orange, yellow etc. i shoot raw, Ap and don't PP much either. i'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, its just about irrelevant but it's colour str8 from cam is warm, trust me.

[drama]

Guys, everyone chill

First post with 400D
Sunbird
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1346/1391367383_f18cdccea0_o.jpg

Am pretty happy with this, shot @f4 with the 70 200 @200mm, iso 200
The AF is very fast, these guys are incredibly quick & MF is impossible
This is a roughly 50% crop, not able to get too many shots due to the incessant rain here

[Gintaras]

Drama, this is DAMN BREATHTAKING shot. I would call it the POWER of excellent photographer and excellent camera!!!:D

[Gintaras]

Drama, HOW did you use AF? I must admit not only the little bird but whole plant is well in focus!!! Kudos to U...:eek:

[fionndruinne]

Not trying to go overboard making comparisons here. What I meant with the functions in image review is that my camera handles the short review which follows taking the shot exactly the same as in full playback mode (pressing the triangle button). You can zoom in, delete and even edit half a second after taking the image, without pressing the triangle button. In fact, you can set the time for that after-shot image review as long as you want it (though I'd think that is something available on the XTi as well, not sure).

And no, it's not terribly important, just a small example of what I'd call attention to detail.

I don't get this Canonic aversion to Nikon reds, though. I mean, yes, when I shoot in color mode III, I think everything is a little oversaturated. But considering you've three color modes to choose from, I don't see why anyone would talk as if Nikon has an insurmountable problem with a color. I always shoot in mode II, which is less saturated, as I believe it saves the highest amount of color info for editing afterwards.

28643

In the words of the puppy: "This is called red. Deal with it."

... and yes, that's a vivid red, but it directly mirrors reality; that's one heck of a red rug I used. In no way does it overpower the other colors. The puppydog has a pink cast as a result of pink skin hinting through the almost-translucent white hair.

Drama, excellent shot. I bet you enjoy that 70-200mm.

[Gintaras]

Fion, dont take so close to your heart, I love many things in Nikon. And Canon sometimes also fools around with blueish wash out color... so no worry, every camera has its fault.:p

Yet it does not matter if you shoot with Canon or Nikon... what matters is: light, composition and you behind your camera ;)

here are a few pics i took today, not top of the pops but something to enjoy.
those of you who have critical comments please go to another place, today only compliments are accepted :p:p:p (I was JOKING !!!)

[michaelb]

I don't worry about colors too much. When I shoot anything where I think the "correct" color will be difficult to capture accurately, I shoot in RAW and adjust color temperature accordingly - this degree of control makes a world of difference in image color control.

Congrats again on the 400D Drama! I would appreciate your continued comparisions with the 350D.

[Honest Gaza]

Coldy, actually you can hit a delete button in preview mode on XTi IF you are quick enough… problem is preview mode shows a pix for a fraction of a second and it goes off before you are able to hit delete button. So sometimes I manage and sometimes not. However I find it funny if one ranks this particular feature over more important things.:rolleyes:

Check in your manual and you will see that the 400D allows many settings for the "review" time after a shot is taken.

Off, 2 secs, 4 secs, 8 secs, or HOLD (will remain until you hit the shutter button or camera switches off)

[Rooz]

Guys, everyone chill


is there anyone not chilled in this thread, (apart from you ;)) ? gintaras, coldy and i were just having a discussion. just becasue we don;t always agree doesn;t mean thats bad. its all done in a friendly way. :)

[drama]

Rooz :

Yeah, maybe I was talking to myself :)
These discussions crop up just about everywhere & detrail the main subject
Especially when some one comes in with negligible knowledge & has to be the expert on everything

You conveniently left out one name, in your discussion group

[fionndruinne]

Now, cut the drama.:p Coldy even affirmed I was right (to a point).:eek:

Besides, that was one comment which wasn't meant to steer the discussion all around the room; it's the responses which did that.

[drama]

fionndruinne

Coldy was wrong, you can magnify preview images, on both the 350D & the 400D
Anyway, I may have overreacted :)

[Gintaras]

Honest Gaza, thanks, i somehow did not pay much attention to this function as this was not critical for me but you right, reading manual helps:o

Chaps, nice talking thanks... and good gentlemen know how to keep good discussion, speaking of which Drama is a gentleman! Besides he is one of XTi owners who is able to squeeze the most out of this little DSLR body, if in doubt ask that little bird in his shot :D

[Honest Gaza]

Honest Gaza, thanks, i somehow did not pay much attention to this function as this was not critical for me but you right, reading manual helps:o



No problem Gintaras....also note the following tip :

Even if you don't have the Review time set for "Hold", you can easily extend the duration of the review time by pressing the "Trash" icon. This will leave the image on the screen for as long as you want (or until the camera powers down). Just ignore the Cancel / OK option and then hit the Shutter Button when you are ready to continue with taking your next shot :)

[coldrain]

fionndruinne

Coldy was wrong, you can magnify preview images, on both the 350D & the 400D
Anyway, I may have overreacted :)
We were not talking about the review mode, but the automatic review pic you get directly after taking a photo.

[drama]

We were not talking about the review mode, but the automatic review pic you get directly after taking a photo.

Sorry about that, got confused between review & preview

[fionndruinne]

That's why I use "playback" rather than "review" for what you get when you press the triangle-marked button. I had thought this was the common term for it, but apparently not. Ah well.