View Full Version : EOS 40D - Competative Pricing?
DonSchap
09-06-2007, 02:29 PM
What is I were to say I could actually get an EOS 40D at $1159 and the 28-135 IS kit version for $1350?
Anyone interested? :)
I wouldn't wait too long ... I have no idea how long this could last. Might be good for a counter bid at your local distributer.
VTEC_EATER
09-06-2007, 03:57 PM
But why on earth would you want to buy a camera that is barely better than your 20D, and doesn't have in-body image stabilization?
Sounds like a waste of your money Don. I say, save up for the A700.
DonSchap
09-06-2007, 04:01 PM
I just got pricing on it ... it's not my bankroll. I just figured you guys might want to know.
Yes ... the SONY A700 will be in my bag, the improvement is definitely enough to improve my photography with it and give me back the few compromises I had to make with the A100 ... like the hot shoe for flash sync.
timmciglobal
09-06-2007, 04:31 PM
Where from don?
I've been waiting to see if dell puts it up at 1299, 15% off + 4% DPP discount is quite nice.
Tim
DonSchap
09-06-2007, 06:35 PM
A local place, here in the Chicago Area. I was able to obtain personal-pricing on it ... but, there just doesn't seem to be much interest. I figure I can establish some interest and maybe trim a couple more bucks ... but to be honest, it wouldn't be for me. The EOS 40D just doesn't have enough to make any difference in my Canon shooting. I'll live with what I get from the EOS 20D.
No more money into Canon-glass. I want and need IS in-the-body from Canon ... then I'll throw down and buy the camera that has it. :D
You know what would be hilarious, but would never work anyway ... if some inventive third-party made a Canon-to-SONY adapter ... but, unfortunately Canon's lens orifice is too big. It would be tantamount to that kid who monkey'd around with the iPhone ... and made it work with ALL networks, not just AT&T. That was a real ace-buster move.
i didn;t quite undertstand, are you saying that you are going to buy a 40d ? :confused:
DonSchap
09-06-2007, 06:44 PM
Oh, I might buy it for someone else ... if they wanted the deal. I do stuff like that ... but no ... I do not want one ... even at half the price. :o
In fact ... what does 6.5 fps get you over 5 fps? I don't even shoot like that. I suppose burst mode might be useful at a wedding party ... so at least one "non-IS" image comes out tack-sharp. I mean, it's not like you are going to run out of film ... just battery power.
when are you expecting to have the a700 ? i'm looking forward to seeing your results. as i said in the other thread, if this thing performs and sells well then its going to be great news for all of us. the 40d will drop in price just like the xti did and that will lead to the d300 dropping aswell. happy days for everyone. yeeeee haaaaaa!!!!!!!! http://emoticons4u.com/happy/143.gif
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gee Don keep your damn 20D.
DonSchap
09-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have to wait just like the rest of the world. SONY hasn't enlisted me for evaluation ... which is probably a good thing, too ... because I couldn't keep it under wraps, if that bad boy does what it says it does.
I have some real fun stuff planned for it, though ... since I've gotten into Adv. Digital this year. They have warned us that we are going to do things with the digital camera that is ... frankly, unnatural. :eek: LOL
gee Don keep your damn 20D.
As you wish ... :D
24Peter
09-06-2007, 11:09 PM
and give me back the few compromises I had to make with the A100 ... like the hot shoe for flash sync.
Is Sony going to a standard hot shoe with its new cameras? (I'm genuinely interested for reasons I'll reveal later...) EDIT: Never mind, just saw the pics. Same lame hot shoe...
swgod98
09-07-2007, 08:35 AM
(I'm genuinely interested for reasons I'll reveal later...) EDIT: Never mind
You can't do that!! :mad: You have to reveal your reasons!!! :D
DonSchap
09-07-2007, 09:06 AM
There are Hot Shoe converters out there, Pete.
Try this link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Flash-Hot-Shoe-Adapter-for-Minolta-Dynax-Sony-Alpha_W0QQitemZ330161398901QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6435 4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Just have to dance across the Internet to find 'em.
Why does Sony have to keep pushing it's proprietary crap on everyone...what's next, their own USB connectors?
DonSchap
09-07-2007, 12:01 PM
Why does Sony have to keep pushing it's proprietary crap on everyone...what's next, their own USB connectors?
SONY made an effort not to alienmate the existing Minolta-following by switching the expensive external Electronic Flashes and kept the proprietary hot shoe. It gave people an incentive to stick with the Minolta brand. What SONY should have done was include an adapter to go either way. But, you know marketing. Just ask Canon about it ... and the "in-the-body-IS" decision.
Personally, I thought Minolta began its downhill slide when they made that proprietary move, back then, with their new i-Series of cameras and flashes. In my and other's opinion, it was just bad business, as prior hot shoes were more like the contemporary ones we know on Canons and Nikons. In fact, there is still bad feeling about it. :rolleyes: I know ... I have several pre-1995 flash units, too.
I believe they are keeping it, now, because of new sales of the HVL-56AM & HVL-36AM flash units. They really are good flash units, but they do need a pro-level flash, to be sure.
Minolta had the good sense to release some adapters back in 1995, so people could cross mount the old flashes ... the FS-1100 (old flash to new hot shoe) and FS-1200 (new flash to old hot shoe)
Here's a picture of the FS-1100 & FS-1200 (courtesy of B&H)
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This comparison also gives you a good idea of what the top of these two hot shoes look like, close-up. :D
coldrain
09-07-2007, 12:05 PM
Is Sony going to a standard hot shoe with its new cameras? (I'm genuinely interested for reasons I'll reveal later...) EDIT: Never mind, just saw the pics. Same lame hot shoe...
HD output...?
DonSchap
09-07-2007, 12:14 PM
Man oh man, I walked into my local camera shop ... and announced the price I had gotten on the EOS 40D, just a week out of the blocks, and the swearing and carrying on ... wow! I was told that is was like 7 dollars over the cost. :cool:
Anyway ... too bad I don't want one. Just figures, huh? :rolleyes:
Glasstream15
09-07-2007, 09:01 PM
Don,
I can only hope that the A700 will finally be good enough equipment so that the camera can turn you into the photographer you only wish you were.
But I will NEVER again own any Sony products. Way to much problems with really crappy quality in very expensive consumer electronics.
I hope it works for you.
YMMV
thats a pretty broad statement. while i undersatnd people steering away from a brand due to bad experience you need to put it in context. to NEVER buy another sony product again based on a couple of poor products is probably a bit rich.
the a100 doesn;t have any inherrant reliability problems i'm aware of. i also have a sony mp3 player thats gone 3 years without a hitch. a sony TV thats 10years old and works like new, a PS2 which still goes strong and a video cam thats 5 years old and feels like i bought it a week ago.
in fact i don;t think i've ever had a sony product fail. i'm sure others have but considering the mass volume sony produces in everything i think their reliablity record is pretty darn good. there are many reasons i'd opt not to get a sony dslr, but poor reliability isn't one of them.
Glasstream15
09-07-2007, 11:11 PM
A Sony 36" TV that cost me $1800 and was replaced with a new one under warrenty in 6 months and then had a rebuilt picture tube every 18 months, only because I had an extended warrenty. Sony said tough. It only has a 90 day warrenty. After the 4th replacement tube, I bought a demo Apex for $250 that's still going strong 4 years later.
A Sony home theater system for almost $1000 that crapped out after 3 years. I still use the speakers in the garage, but the electronics were toast. A Panasonic for 1/2 the price sounds better and is 4 years old.
Sony makes you pay for a name. Just like Apple, Bose and a few others I can name. You can get better products cheaper and mostly name brands too.
So no. Never a Sony product of any kind.
DonSchap
09-07-2007, 11:21 PM
The SONY DSLR camera division is ... oh yeah, in the old Minolta facilities. Why is that? It's still Minolta stuff. Your SONY argument does not hold any of this man's water ... it is in name only ... the heart is still beating Minolta blue!
28407
Bring on the full frame! Lets see the real earth-shaker. :D
Sony makes you pay for a name. Just like Apple, Bose and a few others I can name..
harley davidson is another.
what your basically saying is that companies should do everything they can to build a reputation and then a name in the market...but then not capitalise on that name and reputation when they get it ??
Glasstream15
09-08-2007, 07:10 AM
NO!
What I am saying is that certain companies, one of which actually used to make great products, now live on HYPE. There are far superior products available for less money, but they don't have that name or hype factor.
NO!
What I am saying is that certain companies, one of which actually used to make great products, now live on HYPE. There are far superior products available for less money, but they don't have that name or hype factor.
sounds to me like just about every single premium consumer product ever made be it electronics, motor cars, clothing, food or just about anything you can spend a dollar on.
24Peter
09-08-2007, 06:02 PM
You can't do that!! :mad: You have to reveal your reasons!!! :D
Yeah I quickly found the hot shoe converters.
Here's reason I was wondering:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Radio-Slave-Flash-Trigger-16-Channel-Wireless_W0QQitemZ140140599512QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3 0086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
As I've said before: best $30 I've spent on photography equipment. Afraid I couldn't use it on the A700. But I assume I can with the adapter.
I'm going to wait to see the reviews on the A700 (particulary how the new sensor performs and how the new in-body IS stacks up), but right now it looks like it's in the running for me...
DonSchap
09-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Okay ... amazingly, I've actually received one interested buyer in the EOS 40D in 483 views. That's cool ... what a batting percentage for Canon. LOL. I'll wait a couple more days before I actually act on the price - $1159
I figure that's $140 off list ... so doing the quick math:
140/1299 ... doggone, that's a whole 11% ... tax, in most states.
So ... $1299 would be basically all of Illinois state sales tax included ... so that leaves the cost of shipping to wherever. Hmmm ... wonder if I can get that for free, too? Worth a call, on Monday, I guess. :rolleyes:
No Control
09-08-2007, 10:04 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Radio-Slave-Flash-Trigger-16-Channel-Wireless_W0QQitemZ140140599512QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3 0086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
As I've said before: best $30 I've spent on photography equipment.
Sorry for the idiocy but what exactly does that stuff do? :o
24Peter
09-09-2007, 09:40 AM
Sorry for the idiocy but what exactly does that stuff do? :o
It slices, dices - and can even open your garage door! :D
OK, OK, - it triggers off-camera strobes (flashes) wirelessly. Once you've done that with a PC cord for a while you'll understand why these RF slaves are so great. And this particular model has worked flawlessly for me for thousands and thousands of shots. (I've never even had to change the batteries.) All the studio shots in all my galleries for the past two years were taken with them.
No Control
09-09-2007, 10:55 AM
It slices, dices - and can even open your garage door! :D
OK, OK, - it triggers off-camera strobes (flashes) wirelessly. Once you've done that with a PC cord for a while you'll understand why these RF slaves are so great. And this particular model has worked flawlessly for me for thousands and thousands of shots. (I've never even had to change the batteries.) All the studio shots in all my galleries for the past two years were taken with them.
Ahhh that's what I was thinking. Thanks. :)
TheObiJuan
09-13-2007, 04:46 AM
It slices, dices - and can even open your garage door! :D
OK, OK, - it triggers off-camera strobes (flashes) wirelessly. Once you've done that with a PC cord for a while you'll understand why these RF slaves are so great. And this particular model has worked flawlessly for me for thousands and thousands of shots. (I've never even had to change the batteries.) All the studio shots in all my galleries for the past two years were taken with them.
Will this fire the 580EX or other speedlights off camera?
I would rather not have to spend the money on a ST-E2 transmitter.
No Control
09-13-2007, 10:09 AM
Will this fire the 580EX or other speedlights off camera?
How about an Sb-600?
24Peter
09-14-2007, 11:42 PM
Will this fire the 580EX or other speedlights off camera?
I would rather not have to spend the money on a ST-E2 transmitter.
Juan - It will fire a flash with a PC cord or 1/4" input. So I know it won't work with the 430EX. I don't know about the 580's. The Sunpak 383's I was talking about in another thread have a 1/8" jack input (not the same as PC input). But with the eBay RF slave you get a 1/4" jack which you can step down to 1/8" with a Radio Shack adapter.
TheObiJuan
09-15-2007, 01:49 AM
Juan - It will fire a flash with a PC cord or 1/4" input. So I know it won't work with the 430EX. I don't know about the 580's. The Sunpak 383's I was talking about in another thread have a 1/8" jack input (not the same as PC input). But with the eBay RF slave you get a 1/4" jack which you can step down to 1/8" with a Radio Shack adapter.
Jesus Christo, I'm trying to learn, but seriously....
Strobist has been my late night bible lately.
Thanks Peter for the info. ;)
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