View Full Version : Shooting with IS or not?
Speed2
08-24-2007, 08:15 AM
Hee Hee this should get some feedback.
Why do the IS lenses come with an IS on-off switch?
At high shutter speeds IS is completely useless and only slows things down and can even ruin shots when you click the shutter before IS fully engages which happens a lot when shooting flight.
Not that we all take pics of diving hawks but i think we all would if givin the chance, i have that opportunity quite often with Ospreys and Eagles. Having said that...are they worth the extra $500. Can u imagine u standing by a Lake and you see an Osprey going after his meal and point, shoot and the shot is ruined cause in a panic u forgot to turn off the IS. BTW drama doesn't have a trained one of those...lol. If ur a rich New Yorker u won't worry cause u can afford to buy one non and one IS of each flavor lol.
For this reason i might not want to see canon release an in body IS system:rolleyes:
BTW whats going on with that thread in here Canon Digital SLRs/Nikon D3/D300
David Metsky
08-24-2007, 08:27 AM
I've never experienced a problem with IS when shooting hand held. You want to turn it off when on a tripod, because the IS system doesn't handle complete lack of motion very well.
How does IS slow down the shot? How would it ruin anything?
erichlund
08-24-2007, 09:13 AM
Hee Hee this should get some feedback.
Why do the IS lenses come with an IS on-off switch?
At high shutter speeds IS is completely useless and only slows things down and can even ruin shots when you click the shutter before IS fully engages which happens a lot when shooting flight.
Not that we all take pics of diving hawks but i think we all would if givin the chance, i have that opportunity quite often with Ospreys and Eagles. Having said that...are they worth the extra $500. Can u imagine u standing by a Lake and you see an Osprey going after his meal and point, shoot and the shot is ruined cause in a panic u forgot to turn off the IS. BTW drama doesn't have a trained one of those...lol. If ur a rich New Yorker u won't worry cause u can afford to buy one non and one IS of each flavor lol.
For this reason i might not want to see canon release an in body IS system:rolleyes:
Just one really good reason. Also, IS doesn't work as well on a tripod (or, at least VR doesn't, sorry Nikon guy)
BTW whats going on with that thread in here Canon Digital SLRs/Nikon D3/D300
Haven't you heard, with the latest release of the D3/D300, Canon is throwing in the towel. Nikon is absorbing them. This is just the first visible indication. :rolleyes:
David Metsky
08-24-2007, 09:17 AM
The electronics to detect that the camera is on a tripod and turn off IS is already out there. It'll show up on cameras where it doesn't yet exist soon.
erichlund
08-24-2007, 09:17 AM
I've never experienced a problem with IS when shooting hand held. You want to turn it off when on a tripod, because the IS system doesn't handle complete lack of motion very well.
How does IS slow down the shot? How would it ruin anything?
IS, like VR, has to measure the shake and match it. That's why, when you first half depress the shutter, the scene seems to be shaking all over the place, then is suddenly just stops. When you see everything go steady in your viewfinder, that's when you fully depress the shutter. But, you do have to wait for it. If you just depress the shutter, the combination of lens shake and the lens seeking the correct amount of shake will be truly awful.
I never really noticed this much with my 18-200 VR, but it's blatantly obvious when I'm zoomed out to 300mm on my 70-300VR.
David Metsky
08-24-2007, 09:26 AM
I really didn't notice it on my Canon 70-300 IS on my film SLR. Is there a significant difference on digital?
erichlund
08-24-2007, 11:08 AM
I would expect the lenses to behave identically whether on digital or film. Focus and stabilization has nothing to do with the media.
DonSchap
08-24-2007, 11:25 AM
The idea of waiting for IS to catch up just weirds me out. My experiences with the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM doesn't seem to have an perseptible movement of image that I've notice ... but then again, I'm not twirling around on a playground merry-go-round trying to snap close-ups of a hummingbird's wings.
You guys are fun, though. What next? Parachuting off the top of Niagra Falls, taking MACRO shots of floral vein patterns ... with a bumblebee nearby?
Let's have a real test of IS-capability. :eek:
Speed2
08-24-2007, 11:52 AM
The idea of waiting for IS to catch up just weirds me out. My experiences with the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM doesn't seem to have an perseptible movement of image that I've notice ... but then again, I'm not twirling around on a playground merry-go-round trying to snap close-ups of a hummingbird's wings.
You guys are fun, though. What next? Parachuting off the top of Niagra Falls, taking MACRO shots of floral vein patterns ... with a bumblebee nearby?
Let's have a real test of IS-capability. :eek:
Don't be cranky now..lol. We all do different types of photography, i myself do on the occasion flyfish which gives me the opportunity to shoot birds of prey,
and what a sight that is to see them go after a fish, the Peregrine Falcon can reach 200mph on a dive from 2/3 mile up. normally they are only up a little ways but will still reach 70mph, and the IS for me would screw up and its not likely i'll get another shot. As far as ur bumblebee mention goes, ask drama he's prolly got a trained one handy...lol:D
nqjudo
08-24-2007, 02:45 PM
IS is a tool and one has to be patient and gain the experience to know when he or she will be best served by having it on or off. I am certain that IS has saved far more shots than it has ruined. IS will help in low light with a static subject but it's not going to do anything to help freeze motion anyway - especially the motion of a moving bird. In photography, like anything, you need the right tool for the right job but the 'problem' of using IS with moving subjects is more theoretical than practical. I shoot nature shots all the time that involve moving subjects and my IS is always on. I've never had a problem so far.
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