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Viky
08-18-2007, 12:15 AM
Hi guys,

The Good Part: It's my niece's 1st birthday tonight, and they are throwing a big party, and I'm doing the photographic duties:)

The Bad Part: The Party's taking place in a Party Hall that's poorly lit mostly with decorative tungsten lamps. We had another party in this very same hall a year back, and the few photos I took that time with my FZ5 had turned out real dark and blurry.:(

I've attached a few pics of the place I had taken last time for reference.

Although now I have the XTi, I'm still skeptical about the results I will get.

So, here I am looking for tips on the following points:

1) I have the 18-55 kit lens & the 50mm 1.8, which should i use?

2) AV mode or TV mode.. I think TV would be safer...

3) if TV, what shutter speed, 1/50 or could i go slower?

4) ISO around 800?

5) The tungsten lightings cast an excessively warm tint, so which WB to reduce this?

Planning on not using the Flash.

Any other tips / suggestions would be welcome.

best regards,

Viky

Rooz
08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
obviously take both lens' with you but i would start by using the 50mm and only use the kit lens when you need the wider angle. the lighting doesn;t look THAT bad really so i don;t think it will be much of a problem with the xti as opposed to your older panasonic.

1/30s is usually fine to use for portraits of people but you will need to go higher if the subjects are moving around somewhat, even then 1/50s should be no problem. iso 800 will be absolutely fine. i'd shoot it higher if you need to. photos from these sorts of parties are rarely blown up to big sizes so iso1600 should be perfectly acceptable for smaller prints or web based photos. i think coldy mentioned that the xti has some form of auto iso, if it does then i would use it cos i use it in these situations all the time, its exteremely handy.

just remember to chimp often, especially given the uneven lighting that could be there, and make minor adjustments on the fly.

RE: WB, i would just shoot in RAW to make any adjustments in batch processing later. alternately, take a few test shots on each WB setting and pick the one you think looks the best before the event starts.

pagnamenta
08-18-2007, 11:10 AM
If you shoot in RAW you can worry about the WB later, it'll give you much less headache.

tim11
08-19-2007, 05:24 PM
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2) AV mode or TV mode.. I think TV would be safer...

3) if TV, what shutter speed, 1/50 or could i go slower?

4) ISO around 800?
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Personally I prefer to use Aperture mode (Av). For a given number of Av I use, when the camera indicates a lower shutter speed than my liking then I will widen the aperture. Fix Tv can still get underexposed images where light is insufficient.
Reading exif data on the images you posted, I think you will be mostly get good result with ISO800.

Viky
08-21-2007, 03:31 AM
Thanks everybody for the tips & suggestions.

I've not yet started shooting RAW coz I don't have any proper Editing program to convert RAW to JPEG. Also I'm very bad at image editing... need to learn as early as possible:rolleyes:

UPDATE:

The party was nice & fun! However, from a photographic point of view, it was average:(

There was a last moment change to a different party hall in the same hotel, and this one had darker walls and even worse lighting:(

I did most of the shots with the 50mm at ISO 800/1600 in tv mode around 1/30 to 1/80... depending on subject movement, and these shots turned out good to average. There were times when i needed more wide angle and used the 18-55 kit lens... and these are the shots that turned out real bad, underexposed and blurry and with too much noise.

Will post a few pics soon...

Viky
08-21-2007, 03:35 AM
Here are some of the processed pics...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A001.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A004.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A007.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A011.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A014.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A016.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A047a.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A028.jpg

Viky
08-21-2007, 03:36 AM
A few more....


http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A036.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A045.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A022.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A063.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A071.jpg

Some of the pics are quite soft after I ran them through Neat Image Noise reduction.

The Pics have been printed 4x6 and look better in print:)

Please let me know how I fared....

Rooz
08-21-2007, 03:57 AM
i think you did a good job given the circumstances. unfortunately, sometimes there is just no substitute for a flashgun. if you're going to do many more of these family gatherings and you're the designated photographer, you need to pick up a flash mate.

tim11
08-21-2007, 05:06 AM
I already see a lot of difference.

Viky
08-21-2007, 06:03 AM
i think you did a good job given the circumstances. unfortunately, sometimes there is just no substitute for a flashgun. if you're going to do many more of these family gatherings and you're the designated photographer, you need to pick up a flash mate.

Thanks Rooz!

Yes, a 430EX Flash is on the top of my purchase list.

Rooz
08-21-2007, 06:07 AM
Thanks Rooz!

Yes, a 430EX Flash is on the top of my purchase list.

once you get one, you can leave crappy iso adjustment for times of desperation only when you cant use a flash...which is the only time they should be used. then start reading this place, imo its an invaluable tool to help improve not only your flash skills but your your photography as a whole. :) i have become obsessed with lighting since avidly reading it lol.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/02/welcome-to-strobist.html

swgod98
08-21-2007, 12:05 PM
once you get one, you can leave crappy iso adjustment for times of desperation

True, though it's still important to know when to adjust ISO levels. Indoors, even with flash, it's a good idea to move between ISO 200-800. This will give the shot more depth and lessen the likelihood (and effect) of flash shadows.

toriaj
08-21-2007, 12:29 PM
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/rx100/A016.jpg

This one is my favorite. Beautiful subject, the lighting works, and I think people pics look nice a little soft anyway :)

Viky
08-21-2007, 11:12 PM
Thanks toriaj!

That's my sister,and the best thing I like about this picture are the many little lighting effects just above her head. I don't know if its bokeh or lens flare, but whatever it may be, it only adds t the photo:)