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dcislander
12-22-2004, 04:43 PM
Hey all,
Canon's current rebates have finally helped make up my mind to get the 300D vs. the 20D. Once all is said and done, the Rebel will only cost $500 or $600 depending on the lenses I buy with it. Too ceap to pass up. What I am torn over is the lens selection I am now freed up to buy. While I cannot afford the big $$ L lenses (in most cases) I can get something a bit better than the kit lens (if advised so), especially now that quite a few lenses qualify for an additional $100-$200 off the Rebel. Part of the reason for the camera/lenses is an upcoming trip which will include an African Safari, and a month in China. A tripod is not an option so I thought the 75-300 IS(see below) would be a good option. I really want to limit myself to toting 2 lenses across the world. Here's the rebate deal for anyone not familiar with it-- if you buy a 300D, you get $100 off. For each additional add on (up to 2) you get another $100 off (up to $300). Plus they either double or triple the rebate on the lenses as well. Here's the deal. I have no idea which lenses to get and need some advice.

These are the lenses in my running:
Rebel Kit Lens 18mm-55mm f/3.5-5.6
or, forgo the kit lens and get one of the following in its place:
EF17-40mm f/4 (eligible for rebate--an extra $100 off the Rebel and $25 or $50 off the lens) or
EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 USM IS (no rebates on lens or camera)
Plus I was planning on getting the EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM (eligible for rebate--an extra $100 off the Rebel and $25 or $50 off the lens)

Price breakdowns:
A. $800 total
Rebel with kit lens $900-$100 rebate=$800
B. $1220 total
Rebel with kit lens $900-$200 rebate=$700
75-300 IS $550-$30=$520
C. $1605 total
Rebel body only $800-$300 rebate=$500
75-300 IS $550-$45 rebate=$505
EF 17-40mmf/4 L USM $680-$75 rebate=$605
D. $1670
Rebel body only $800-$200 rebate+$600
75-300 IS $550-$30 rebate=$520
EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 USM IS=$550 (no rebate)

Lenses that qualify for the rebate (note many are out of my price range):
EF Zoom EF 16-35 2.8 LU $50 $100 $150
EF 17-404 LU $25 $50 $75
EF 24-70 2.8 LU $45 $90 $135
EF 28-135 3.5-5.6 ISU $15 $30 $45
EF 28-200 3.5-5.6 U $15 $30 $45
EF 70-200 2.8 L IS U $50 $100 $150
EF 70-200 2.8 LU $40 $80 $120
EF 70-200 4 LU $25 $50 $75
EF 75-300 4-5.6 ISU $15 $30 $45
EF 100-400 4.5-5.6L ISU $50 $100 $150


Any advise you have would be much appreciated. Thank. Happy holidays.

Mike Woods
12-22-2004, 08:12 PM
Hey all,
Canon's current rebates have finally helped make up my mind to get the 300D vs. the 20D. Once all is said and done, the Rebel will only cost $500 or $600 depending on the lenses I buy with it. Too ceap to pass up. What I am torn over is the lens selection I am now freed up to buy. While I cannot afford the big $$ L lenses (in most cases) I can get something a bit better than the kit lens (if advised so), especially now that quite a few lenses qualify for an additional $100-$200 off the Rebel. Part of the reason for the camera/lenses is an upcoming trip which will include an African Safari, and a month in China. A tripod is not an option so I thought the 75-300 IS(see below) would be a good option. I really want to limit myself to toting 2 lenses across the world. Here's the rebate deal for anyone not familiar with it-- if you buy a 300D, you get $100 off. For each additional add on (up to 2) you get another $100 off (up to $300). Plus they either double or triple the rebate on the lenses as well. Here's the deal. I have no idea which lenses to get and need some advice.

These are the lenses in my running:
Rebel Kit Lens 18mm-55mm f/3.5-5.6
or, forgo the kit lens and get one of the following in its place:
EF17-40mm f/4 (eligible for rebate--an extra $100 off the Rebel and $25 or $50 off the lens) or
EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 USM IS (no rebates on lens or camera)
Plus I was planning on getting the EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM (eligible for rebate--an extra $100 off the Rebel and $25 or $50 off the lens)

Price breakdowns:
A. $800 total
Rebel with kit lens $900-$100 rebate=$800
B. $1220 total
Rebel with kit lens $900-$200 rebate=$700
75-300 IS $550-$30=$520
C. $1605 total
Rebel body only $800-$300 rebate=$500
75-300 IS $550-$45 rebate=$505
EF 17-40mmf/4 L USM $680-$75 rebate=$605
D. $1670
Rebel body only $800-$200 rebate+$600
75-300 IS $550-$30 rebate=$520
EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 USM IS=$550 (no rebate)

Lenses that qualify for the rebate (note many are out of my price range):
EF Zoom EF 16-35 2.8 LU $50 $100 $150
EF 17-404 LU $25 $50 $75
EF 24-70 2.8 LU $45 $90 $135
EF 28-135 3.5-5.6 ISU $15 $30 $45
EF 28-200 3.5-5.6 U $15 $30 $45
EF 70-200 2.8 L IS U $50 $100 $150
EF 70-200 2.8 LU $40 $80 $120
EF 70-200 4 LU $25 $50 $75
EF 75-300 4-5.6 ISU $15 $30 $45
EF 100-400 4.5-5.6L ISU $50 $100 $150


Any advise you have would be much appreciated. Thank. Happy holidays.

There are a lot of lenses out there to choose from and it is very frustrating trying to pick the right ones to spend your $ on. I have the 75-300 IS and am very satisfied with it. It requires a lot of light to get really good pictures though. I liked it so much I bought the 28-135 IS and would highly recomment it as well. The 50mm f 1.8 is a no brainer, (the sharpest lens I own)! and for about $70, its a steal. The kit lens is a little soft, but the 18mm end of it makes it important for wide angle shots as well. If you can afford all of these with your camera, I think you will be well satisfied and with the 1.6x multiplier would have an effective range of 28.8mm to 480mm. If I had to eliminate one of these lenses, it would be the kit lens, only because I have a need for more of the telephoto end vs the wide angle end of the spectrum. Although not covered by the rebate, or made by Canon, a lot of folks on here are well satisfied with the Sigma 18-125mm lens and it cost around $260. I have not personally used it, but it could possibly replace the kit lens and the 28-135 IS if the 4 lenses I mentioned are out of your budget. If you only want 2 lenses at this time, you could also eliminate the 50 mm f1.8, but you will definitely want it in the future.
On a side note I also have the 420 ex speedlight and it is a good high quality, easy to use flash, if you don't need all the manual controls of the 550 or 580.
This is pretty much my kit and I am extremely satisfied with it. I hope this helps. :)

ReF
12-22-2004, 09:20 PM
there are also A LOT of discussions about this under the General Topic: Canon Digital SLR and also under this one. threads regarding lenses for the 20D, 10D and of course the D-rebel would all be helpful as they all use the same lenses (except for the EF-S lenses) and the recommendations in all these threads are pretty much the same.

TenD
12-23-2004, 09:18 PM
The high $$ best lenses you can get with the Rebel and save the most in rebates are the 17-40L and 70-200L. Both of these lenses will get you very high quality images, they are also quite expensive. This is the combination my friend finally went with. He paid around $2100 for everything and is expecting something like $450 in rebates back. So for basically the price of a 20D you get very high quality glass and a very good body to use the glass on. If you decide the Rebel body isn't everything you need, you will have very fine glass to take with you to your new body.
You won't be dissappointed with the image quality of the 17-40 f/4L or the 70-200 f/4L lenses. Your shoulder might complain though, they weigh a ton. With this combo you have a small gap between 40 and 70 you could fill this with a 50mm f/1.8 or 50mm f/1.4 and have a fast lens for low light conditions when you need it. The 50mm f/1.8 is a bargain at $70 and although the build quality is somewhat suspect, it is still sharp and fast.
The 17-85 IS looks like an excellent range, but it's not in the rebate program and right now that will get you the most bang for the buck, so I would stick to lenses in the rebate program.
The 28-135 IS is considered a very fine lens, and has a very good range to be a fine walk around lens. It does lack on the wide end, so if you were looking at this lens the kit lens would be a wise choice with it. The kit lens is not of the best image quality, but stopped down it produces good images.
The 75-300 IS would make a decent zoom lens and I have seen some very good images taken with it. It does tend to get soft at the long end and is best in the 75-200 range.
Look in sites like photodo for examples taken with the lenses you are looking at. That will help you decide if you require the quality of an L lens or a consumer grade lens will suffice. You can search for different lenses. I am a firm believer in buying the best possible lenses you can afford, bodies will come and go, but good lenses will last as long as the system(eos) lasts.

D70FAN
12-24-2004, 08:44 AM
Hey all,
Canon's current rebates have finally helped make up my mind to get the 300D vs. the 20D. Once all is said and done, the Rebel will only cost $500 or $600 depending on the lenses I buy with it. Too ceap to pass up. What I am torn over is the lens selection I am now freed up to buy. While I cannot afford the big $$ L lenses (in most cases) I can get something a bit better than the kit lens (if advised so), especially now that quite a few lenses qualify for an additional $100-$200 off the Rebel. Part of the reason for the camera/lenses is an upcoming trip which will include an African Safari, and a month in China. A tripod is not an option so I thought the 75-300 IS(see below) would be a good option. I really want to limit myself to toting 2 lenses across the world. Here's the rebate deal for anyone not familiar with it-- if you buy a 300D, you get $100 off. For each additional add on (up to 2) you get another $100 off (up to $300). Plus they either double or triple the rebate on the lenses as well. Here's the deal. I have no idea which lenses to get and need some advice.

These are the lenses in my running:
Rebel Kit Lens 18mm-55mm f/3.5-5.6
or, forgo the kit lens and get one of the following in its place:
EF17-40mm f/4 (eligible for rebate--an extra $100 off the Rebel and $25 or $50 off the lens) or
EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 USM IS (no rebates on lens or camera)
Plus I was planning on getting the EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM (eligible for rebate--an extra $100 off the Rebel and $25 or $50 off the lens)

Price breakdowns:
A. $800 total
Rebel with kit lens $900-$100 rebate=$800
B. $1220 total
Rebel with kit lens $900-$200 rebate=$700
75-300 IS $550-$30=$520
C. $1605 total
Rebel body only $800-$300 rebate=$500
75-300 IS $550-$45 rebate=$505
EF 17-40mmf/4 L USM $680-$75 rebate=$605
D. $1670
Rebel body only $800-$200 rebate+$600
75-300 IS $550-$30 rebate=$520
EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 USM IS=$550 (no rebate)

Lenses that qualify for the rebate (note many are out of my price range):
EF Zoom EF 16-35 2.8 LU $50 $100 $150
EF 17-404 LU $25 $50 $75
EF 24-70 2.8 LU $45 $90 $135
EF 28-135 3.5-5.6 ISU $15 $30 $45
EF 28-200 3.5-5.6 U $15 $30 $45
EF 70-200 2.8 L IS U $50 $100 $150
EF 70-200 2.8 LU $40 $80 $120
EF 70-200 4 LU $25 $50 $75
EF 75-300 4-5.6 ISU $15 $30 $45
EF 100-400 4.5-5.6L ISU $50 $100 $150


Any advise you have would be much appreciated. Thank. Happy holidays.

For about $270 you might want to look at the Sigma 18-125 DC lens. I've been using it on my D70 for about 4 months. It replaced the (very good) Nikkor 18-70 DX "kit" lens without a hitch.

It's a great everyday shooter, and offers a good wide angle and moderate telephoto, with very good picture quality. Having IS on a lens shorter than about 125mm is not a driving necessity for me, even though I have a bit of a shakey hands problem.

Anyway it's worth a look.