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pselck
07-02-2007, 03:16 PM
Hello,
I am new to the forums and I am looking to upgrade from a film rebel to an XTi. I have read the review here and it seems to be great. I went into Wolf Camera and the guy is trying to talk me out of the camera because he says all the pictures turn out dark.

Any threads (i searched, really) or info about this?

Thanks,
Paul

griptape
07-02-2007, 04:19 PM
The camera doesn't do great in auto mode, especially if you don't set your metering correctly, but it's not meant to be a point and shoot. It's the fault of the user if their pictures come out dark. There's no defect in the camera itself that under exposes. Here's a fairly recent thread that discusses it:

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32214

What was the camera guy trying to talk you into instead?

lantern
07-02-2007, 05:19 PM
What was the camera guy trying to talk you into instead?


That is a very good question.

pselck
07-02-2007, 06:23 PM
They took pics with the Sony A100, the Nikon D80 (I think that is it) and the XTi and the xti is much darker. He said that he did not change any settings. He was not steering towards anything in particular though he did say good things about the sony. I already have 2 lenses for the canon though, so it is a serious choice for me.

Paul

griptape
07-02-2007, 06:49 PM
The Sony is a pretty nice camera, and with tons of Konica/Minolta lenses out there, it's cheaper to build a decent lens collection. But what kept me away from it were the noise comparisons. Both Canon and Nikon have VERY noticeably cleaner shots at ISO 800 and above. If you already have Canon lenses, there is no reason whatsoever to go with a Sony or a D80.

Rooz
07-02-2007, 07:12 PM
Hello,
I am new to the forums and I am looking to upgrade from a film rebel to an XTi. I have read the review here and it seems to be great. I went into Wolf Camera and the guy is trying to talk me out of the camera because he says all the pictures turn out dark.

Any threads (i searched, really) or info about this?

Thanks,
Paul

the guy is an idiot. the reason the xti has some issues with dark pics is that people who don;t know how to use the camera properly are shooting in auto mode and exposing for the wrong part of the frame. this is purely user error.

SpecialK
07-02-2007, 08:51 PM
You can set the camera compensation as needed to "overexpose" the image to make it "normal" for you. Don't worry about that.

XaiLo
07-04-2007, 11:09 PM
What were's the great defender of truth, liberty, and justice for all:confused: oo it's cold outside must be no D40 mentioned so no need to rain on someones parade. I say ask the resident expert Coldrain but according to him the XT/XTi is a perfect camera so the salesman must have been wrong. I won't bash the XT/XTi but I would look at the Nikon D80 at least it's capable of focusing with the lenses it can use, for that matter try a D40 it doesn't have any problems focusing with it's limited selection of lenses. :)

griptape
07-05-2007, 12:03 AM
for that matter try a D40 it doesn't have any problems focusing with it's limited selection of lenses. :)

The Xt/i has focus problems?

GaryS
07-05-2007, 10:19 AM
What were's the great defender of truth, liberty, and justice for all:confused: oo it's cold outside must be no D40 mentioned so no need to rain on someones parade. I say ask the resident expert Coldrain but according to him the XT/XTi is a perfect camera so the salesman must have been wrong. I won't bash the XT/XTi but I would look at the Nikon D80 at least it's capable of focusing with the lenses it can use, for that matter try a D40 it doesn't have any problems focusing with it's limited selection of lenses. :)

Do you think that little rant was necessary there Xailo???? Doesn't seem to have much to do with this thread.

I've had my XTi for over a month now, and I've not seen it underexpose at all. I think the guy was either very confused, or got a bigger commission for pushing something else. All the cameras mentioned here take great pics!

XaiLo
07-05-2007, 11:23 AM
you're right dusty but it wasn't intended as a rant but more so an object lesson. Coldrain is of the opinion that the D40 is worthless and everytime anyone indicates any interest in the camera he makes it a point to bash the camera pointing out it's quote negatives unquote as he sees them. And Typically recommends the XT/XTi over it. But never seems to come up with any negatives when it pertains to those cameras. To add to that fact he ridicules people who defend a camera they own. Let's just say I'm tired of the rhetoric, bias, and bashing. I apologize if I offended anyone but apparetly it would seem that D40 owners are not the only ones who feel a need to defend their choice. :)

And if you think this was a rant stop by the Nikon section and checkout Coldrains posts.

e_dawg
07-05-2007, 05:22 PM
Depends on what your definition of dark is. I don't think the XTi will give you dark pics, but it may not be programmed as aggressively as the D80 to keep the picture as bright as possible.

On the other hand, some people say that the D80 is too willing to blow the highlights to retain shadow detail and give you bright midtones. I'm one of them ;) I don't mind, though. I just set the exp compensation to -0.5 to -1.0 EV depending on what the situation calls for.

Similarly, you can set the XTi to expose however dark or bright you want it to. If you get the XTi and find the pics dark, just set the exp comp to +1.0 EV. Presto. Bright pics with clipped highlights.