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Abercrombie
04-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Hi all.

Last week I made the switch from fixed lens prosumer to DSLR and replaced my Kodak P880 and Fuji S9600 with a Canon EOS 300D.

I'm fully aware that the 300D is out-dated and shadowed by the 350D and 400D XTi. But I'm still only an amateur and was simply looking to be a little more creative with my photography.

I'm now about to begin shopping to accessorize my camera, starting with a nice lens and a flash unit.

At the moment my budget is limited. I'm looking for nice quality and performance at a reasonable price.

My main interest at the moment is portrait photography, but I do enjoy shooting landscapes and wildlife (when I have a nice range zoom lens).

Recommendations and link appreciated.

Thanks

cdifoto
04-08-2007, 05:08 PM
"Budget is limited" and "reasonable price" are vague. Speak in dollars and cents and maybe we can help.

Abercrombie
04-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Well, as little as possible I guess. I'll pay as much as I have to in order to enhance the quality of my photography.

I just don't want people posting links to the EF 400mm and such.

Which lenses would you recommend for less than £150, and how much am I looking to pay for a nice flash unit?

Also any suggestions of higher priced but effective lenses are appreciated since I can keep my eyes open for a good second hand deal on the eBay.

Thanks again.

cdifoto
04-08-2007, 05:40 PM
I'm not really up on the prices of lenses over there but I don't think 150 will get you much (if anything) of quality.

I don't like to recommend "cheap" zooms but some other folks will stop by and perhaps help out a bit. I'd rather recommend stuff that'll knock your socks off. :)

As for a bit more, you can get a 50mm f/1.4 which would be real nice for portraits. It acts as kind of a short telephoto. Nice and sharp, good color, etc. Goes for around $350USD over here.

Similarly the 85mm f/1.8 is a good one. It's around the same price.

The 50mm f/1.8 (not the 1.4...pay attention to that) is under $80 but in my opinion it sucks. It's sharp but doesn't focus worth a hoot so I try to steer people clear of it, despite the extremely low price.

Those are 3 I have personal experience with.

Abercrombie
04-08-2007, 06:09 PM
Okay, thanks for that.

I know that £150 is a poor budget, and I will be willing to spend more during the coming months, but I feel that it's a wise move to understand exactly what makes any one lens so expensive before I go throwing money at them.

But I do need a flash unit. My current job is basically low-light portrait photography and the built-in flash can struggle with larger groups of people.

Also, a guy on another forum sent me a link to the following lens, recommending it as a good investment for the creative side.
It claims to be 500 / 800mm tele lens being sold with a 2x multiplier lens, turning it into a 1000mm / 1600mm lens! And it's retailing at £100.

What do you think?

cdifoto
04-08-2007, 06:38 PM
Okay, thanks for that.

I know that £150 is a poor budget, and I will be willing to spend more during the coming months, but I feel that it's a wise move to understand exactly what makes any one lens so expensive before I go throwing money at them.

But I do need a flash unit. My current job is basically low-light portrait photography and the built-in flash can struggle with larger groups of people.

Also, a guy on another forum sent me a link to the following lens, recommending it as a good investment for the creative side.
It claims to be 500 / 800mm tele lens being sold with a 2x multiplier lens, turning it into a 1000mm / 1600mm lens! And it's retailing at £100.

What do you think?

I wouldn't use it for any serious photography. It would get you reach that's otherwise unaffordable by most mortals, but it wouldn't be high quality.


As for a flash unit, it depends what you want to spend. The Sigma EF 500 DG Super is a good one for around $250 (all my prices are in USD since that's what I'm familiar with). The 580EX is Canon's top end for about $380. I have 2 of those and they're excellent. I had a Sigma and sold it simply to move "up" to the 580s since I needed the faster recycle times and a few other features. Otherwise the Sigma is a very capable and feature rich flash.

The Canon 430EX is another good flash for I think half price of the 580EX. Smaller, less powerful, a few features less, but more than adequate for most folks. I can't speak in detail about it since I never owned one.

Another option would be a used 420EX (replaced by the 430) or a used 550EX (replaced by the 580).

All are good options and fully compatible with Canon's E-TTL flash metering.

Abercrombie
04-08-2007, 06:53 PM
I've bookmarked links for those you suggested.
I'd actually looked at the EF-500 today, but I'm having trouble finding one at a good price here in the UK. I don't like to order from overseas.

With regards to the 500mm lens above, would you think it's worth getting? £100 ($195 USD) isn't much to pay for the range really is it.

cdifoto
04-08-2007, 07:09 PM
I've bookmarked links for those you suggested.
I'd actually looked at the EF-500 today, but I'm having trouble finding one at a good price here in the UK. I don't like to order from overseas.

With regards to the 500mm lens above, would you think it's worth getting? £100 ($195 USD) isn't much to pay for the range really is it.

I'd put other, better, "real" lenses before something like that. That lens would be something I might get to play with, but I wouldn't spend $200 on it either.

Abercrombie
04-08-2007, 07:15 PM
Novelty item for the future then lol

Thanks for that.

cdifoto
04-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Novelty item for the future then lol

Thanks for that.

Yep pretty much, IMHO.

Nickcanada
04-08-2007, 07:31 PM
You said your current job is low light portrait photography? Then why look at a 500mm lens? That focal length would be more useful for bird watching. If you would like to do portrait work the lenes that cdi suggested previously, are great choices.

Abercrombie
04-09-2007, 03:00 AM
If you read my threads you will see that although my current job involves club photography, my interest in photography has grown and I am looking to be more creative, with an interest in landscapes and wildlife photography.

Abercrombie
04-09-2007, 06:57 AM
I've just been for a meeting with a friend who is also an experienced photographer. I took my 300D along to show him and he highlighted a possible problem which I had overlooked.

Whilst examining my camera he noticed faint specking on the focus screen. When placed in front of a light the blemishes are clear.
He also pointed out that the mirror has what appears to be cloth-wipe marks, similar to the blur marks left when cleaning a regular mirror with a cleaning solution.

The camera was actually a factory refurb, and it's likely that somebody has tried to give the insides of the camera a wipe with a cloth!!!!

OH MY GOD!!

He tested the sensor and there doesn't seem to be any damage with no blemishes showing on images, but he tells me that a damaged mirror and focus screen is a problem considering I could have bought a brand new camera for just a few pounds more.

Because it's a factory refub, there is only a 10 day refund policy, which means that tomorrow is the deadline for claiming a refund, otherwise I'm stuck with a credit note. This was the only 300D they had, and the next option is a new but over-priced 350D.

My friend advised me to take the camera back, claim a refund and look at buying a replacement online from a reputable supplier.
Bit of a nightmare really because I've just purchased 4 additional 1800mah batteries today!