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FLiPMaRC
03-26-2007, 08:26 AM
http://pixinfo.com/en/articles/ccd-dust-removal/



http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/dslr-dust-removal-sensor-cleaning-shootout/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/3-25-07-dust_dslr.jpg

We already know that megapixels don't matter (right?), but an oft hyped (but untested) feature that has emerged on DSLRs is automatic sensor cleaning. The anti-dust capabilities (or lack thereof) of Canon's EOS-400D, Olympus' E-300, Pentax's K10D, and Sony's Alpha A100 were put to the test, and although the methodology was less than scientific, the results were intriguing nonetheless. Essentially, each camera was given a before / after test shot in order to judge the results, and after the digicams sat through a dirtying process, they were "self-cleaned" 25 times and finally rated. Considering that Olympus was given credit as being the first manufacturer to include dust cleaning technology in its products, it's not too surprising that it took home the gold, but even sitting in first place, the E-300's effectiveness was only rated at 50-percent. Canon's EOS-400D came in with high expectations, but received a "poor" rating as the cleaning effectiveness clocked in a paltry five-percent. If you thought these two were bad, it only got worse when the Pentax K10D and Alpha A100 stepped to the plate, as both highly-regarded cams were deemed "useless" in the anti-dust department. So if your number one priority in a new DSLR is how well it cleans up after itself, there doesn't seem to be a standout option just yet, but feel free to hit the read link and decide for yourself.

DonSchap
03-26-2007, 09:15 AM
http://pixinfo.com/en/articles/ccd-dust-removal/


To be honest, I never did buy into this idea. After having shot the SONY A100 for 6-months, I found that just taking better care of "how and where" you do your lens-swap has a much better effect on dust-problems that the internal "shake me clean" solution ever would.

The Canon EOS 350D, 20D & 30D had "no chance" of ever cleaning themselves, so it will always be a problem. If you own any of these cameras, you will find that you learn very quickly to keep your camera-body facing down, when you change your lenses ... or pay the obligatory $50 for premature sensor-cleaning.

If you want to see how bad your dust-issue on your sensor ... do a bright "sky shot", then adjust the image with brightness and contrast ... lowering it down ... and there it is! Spot Central! YIKES :eek: Where's your obligatory $50?

Just some notes from the "other side."

Riley
03-26-2007, 11:04 AM
just a quick chip
I notice Sigma's SD14 has an IRcut filter (removable) used as a dust shield
since its some distance above the sensor its not in a focus area

an innovative approach that should be applauded, i just hope the presence of the IRcut doesnt create any abnormal abberations in strong light

cheers

abyssknight
03-26-2007, 11:04 AM
From that article it appears the in camera sensor cleaning systems just aren't up to par yet. Even the 400D got horrible reviews from the testing. I was really surprised that Canon wouldn't consider static charge in their engineering of such a system. At any rate, it made me even more sure I don't need the XTi's dust removal/prevention system.

Off topic... $50? I was under the impression it would cost way more than that! Thanks for the heads up Don.

ReF
03-26-2007, 11:24 AM
whatever :rolleyes: , screw their "test". i change lenses A LOT and often shoot in windy conditions near sand and water so i get dust problems that can't be avoided by "being careful". been using a 400d for the last few months shooting the same things under the same conditions and the dust issue has really dissappeared for me. even shooting macro stopped down to f11 or f16 i see no dust where there used to be on other bodies, even with cleaning. i haven't had to touch the sensor once in around 5 months or so i've had the camera, where i used to clean regularly. and regular cleaning can't take care of the dust that gets on your sensor in the middle (or beginning) of a shoot and appears on hundreds of your shots from that day. in real life use it's worked VERY well, at least for me, so you all can use the info from some "test" to convince yourselves of whatever you want to (who puts their cameras through a "dirtying process?"), or ask those with real experience how it's been.

DonSchap
03-26-2007, 01:27 PM
After shooting for over 6-months with the SONY A100, I have not seen the need to clean the sensor, either. It's stayed effectively clean, overall. Careful lens practices have been employed the entire time.

The Canon EOS 20D really started showing dust contamination when I began using it in the summertime, in a high humidity environment. Right after the outdoor river run and a rather dusty house, in Wisconsin, it was effectively "unusable" for imaging until cleaning. I have to report that it's been pretty good through the winter, but with that being said, I have to add that I've been a lot more careful with lens-swapping, also.

That's as real life as it gets for me ... I'm not shooting weddings.