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zmikers
03-03-2007, 09:47 PM
Well, I had no idea where to post this in hopes to get some C&C. I was at my friends wedding as a guest, not a photog. So I decided to look for some creative wedding shots. I thought this turned out alright. I like the concept anyway. What do you think?
Mrpeepers
03-03-2007, 10:23 PM
Very pretty. I love the shot.
What are the details on the shot,BTW?
zmikers
03-03-2007, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the comment:D Here's the info:
Tv(Shutter Speed) - 1/500Sec.
Av(Aperture Value) - F9.0
Metering Modes - Partial metering
Exposure Compensation - 0
ISO Speed - 100
Lens - EF28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
Focal Length - 105.0 mm
Image size - 3888 x 2592
Image Quality - RAW
White Balance - Auto
AF mode - AI focus AF
Picture Style - Landscape
Nice shot. I like it. IMHO, the shot could be better with a larger opening to blur out the building further. But under the circumstances, it's an excellent work. :)
zmikers
03-04-2007, 01:32 AM
Nice shot. I like it. IMHO, the shot could be better with a larger opening to blur out the building further. But under the circumstances, it's an excellent work. :)
I agree mate. Unfortunately I was shooting the bride ready to throw the bouquet on the steps of the church. The church was beautiful so I wanted it visable in the background hence the lower aperature. Then when she threw it, in a fraction of a second I thought, "quick shoot the damn flowers." So yes you are right, not enough time to switch, unfortunately. Thanks for the comments OJ.
... if that wedding was of friends of mine that would be a shot that I would gift them for an anniversary of something worthwhile in their marriage years because I think the shots worth it. In other words, great shot IMHO:D
zmikers
03-04-2007, 03:10 AM
T06.....Great idea mate. I shall do that. And thanks for the response, means a lot!
cwphoto
03-04-2007, 07:39 PM
I like it. Pity about the distracting background but the idea is great. :)
noyjimi
03-04-2007, 08:14 PM
doesn't do much by me... if i think about it, i'd probably guess the context was a wedding but it probably could have used more context.
zmikers
03-04-2007, 08:55 PM
CW - I agree about the background. Do know any way I could get the background blurred abit more in PP? That might help a bit eh? If I get a chance I'll try it again another time and work on that part.
Noyjimi - Well I see that you didn't hold anything back there. LOL!:p I see that you don't like it and that's fair enough but how about some suggestions to help me out. Cheers!
CW - I agree about the background. Do know any way I could get the background blurred abit more in PP? That might help a bit eh? If I get a chance I'll try it again another time and work on that part.
Noyjimi - Well I see that you didn't hold anything back there. LOL!:p I see that you don't like it and that's fair enough but how about some suggestions to help me out. Cheers!
You could try replacing it with sky via layers.
If not, then maybe put it all into a back layer and apply a lot of "lens blur" filter (found under filter/blur/lens blur). It's very powerful and realistic looking if you can manage to get a clean selection. If you can't get a completely clean selection then having the non-blue background will help cover that up.
Also; the sky's too saturated for my liking - looks very P&S. I'd also want to PP in a cloud or two if there were any out that day. Also; maybe a little cropping to make it not so centered would help it along. If you PPed in a non-overlaying (and highly blurred) church steeple it may convey "wedding" more, but I don't think sticking to the "true honest" capture is critical as long as you stick with images from the actual event that could plausibly be in that shot. It would fit very nicely into a wedding album as a fresh idea, IMHO.
Nice concept and capture of it.
zmikers
03-05-2007, 06:35 PM
Vich - Thanks for the response, I will give thise suggestions a try and see what I come up with. To be honest, there were no clouds that day and the sky almost came out that colour out of the cmaera. Wierd I know, I'll try to tone it down a bit though, give some blur and maybe do some cropping too. I'll work on it and post what I come up with. Thanks for the help!
zmikers
03-05-2007, 06:55 PM
Ok, So I've taken everyone's suggestions, for which I am most appreciated, and this is what I've come up with. I think it's better. What do you think?
Ok, So I've taken everyone's suggestions, for which I am most appreciated, and this is what I've come up with. I think it's better. What do you think?
I like it. The only on other thing I might suggest trying is to crop to the upper right third instead of lower right. The hat is falling off the bottom of the frame, better to be entering it. Not really sure if that'll work on a landscape, but the sky color and background blur are a big help.
EDIT: Oh, it's just flowers. When I first saw it I thought it was a bird. IIIII see.
noyjimi
03-06-2007, 10:20 PM
Noyjimi - Well I see that you didn't hold anything back there. LOL!:p I see that you don't like it and that's fair enough but how about some suggestions to help me out. Cheers!
zmikers glad you just LOLed it... it was just my piddly $0.01 opinion, nothing more of course :D i like the digital surgery you did on it in the later version
zmikers
03-07-2007, 06:51 AM
zmikers glad you just LOLed it... it was just my piddly $0.01 opinion, nothing more of course :D i like the digital surgery you did on it in the later version
Cheers mate. Of coarse I LOLed it. I would rather you tell me that you don't like it then not say anything at all. Saying you don't like it, and why of coarse, can make me a better photog.:D
I like the photo-shopped one much better. Thanks for all the imput everybody!
Ok, So I've taken everyone's suggestions, for which I am most appreciated, and this is what I've come up with. I think it's better. What do you think?
There's no easy way to say this, but sometimes changing your art for the likes of others lessens it's impact.
This looks terrible [imo] compared to the original.
Yes, it's good to have blur on backgrounds to focus on the subject, but I don't think this was one of them.
mcenut
03-24-2007, 04:23 PM
zmikers,
Love the original idea. I too agree that it needed the background blur of the second photo. But there was just something that bugged me in the second one.
It wasn't until I drew in the rule of thirds lines that I saw it. The bouquet was just in a bad location. With a little digital manipulation of your second photo I centered the bouquet on the intersection of two of the lines to come up with this photo.
zmikers
03-24-2007, 10:03 PM
sbnr - first of all this is a forum I joined to learn more about photography. I did not change my art for the likes of others. I asked for imput, got a lot of suggestions and tried it out. That's all. This photo is not going to print, I'm just practicing some new techniques. I have read other threads where people here are furious when a poster asks for advice then doesn't take it. Now I have asked for advice and taken all suggestions and you are sayng that I am lessening my art. Give me a break.
mcenut I see what you have done and you are right, that looks loads better. Thanks for the tip.
Thank you to everyone else who helped out. I really do appreciate it.
sbnr - first of all this is a forum I joined to learn more about photography. I did not change my art for the likes of others. I asked for imput, got a lot of suggestions and tried it out. That's all. This photo is not going to print, I'm just practicing some new techniques. I have read other threads where people here are furious when a poster asks for advice then doesn't take it. Now I have asked for advice and taken all suggestions and you are sayng that I am lessening my art. Give me a break.
mcenut I see what you have done and you are right, that looks loads better. Thanks for the tip.
Thank you to everyone else who helped out. I really do appreciate it.
I stand by my post. I like the first one better and it was your original idea.
Do what you want, but I gave my 2 centavos...
zmikers
03-25-2007, 07:49 AM
I know that, and I really do appreciate that, thanks for the suggestion. It just rubs me the wrong way that you feel that me asking for advice, then trying what was offered implies that I am lessening my art. A simple, "I prefer the first shot" is fine bu don't tell me I can't try to learn knew techniques here. Sorry if I've taken your post the wrong way, which is quite possible. I really do appreciate all C & C good or bad, really I do. But don't critisize me for trying to learn.
I know that, and I really do appreciate that, thanks for the suggestion. It just rubs me the wrong way that you feel that me asking for advice, then trying what was offered implies that I am lessening my art. A simple, "I prefer the first shot" is fine bu don't tell me I can't try to learn knew techniques here. Sorry if I've taken your post the wrong way, which is quite possible. I really do appreciate all C & C good or bad, really I do. But don't critisize me for trying to learn.
I agree too that the final result was an improvement, and that sbnr was too strong on forcing his opinion to the contrary.
I'm happy you appreciated my input because when I read sbnr's my eyes took a heavy roll and I thought just about what you posted back - and that apart from good timing the first shot was certainly not an improvement over the edited version. In fact; I felt pretty discouraged at making further suggestions for future thinking "wow, not how unfulfilling was that, not".
I'm not a fan of too much PP manipulation to try saving a photo. I had suggested "heavy blur" but upon seeing it I did initially think "too much", but responded "oh wonderful, noice improvment". I think the main lesson is in what to do next time from the get-go.
zmikers
03-25-2007, 11:10 PM
Vich. Thank you very much for the support there. I thought later that maybe I was over reacting a little. Yes I appreciate everyone's suggestion. If someone suggests something I will try it, that does not mean I will keep it that way but why ask for suggestions and then not try it. If anything, I will learn new techniqeus and then share the results with everyone else whether the results are good are bad.:D
I agree too that the final result was an improvement, and that sbnr was too strong on forcing his opinion to the contrary.
When did I "force" anyone to do anything? Some people act like if honest feedback is a bad thing. No one has to agree with anything if they don't want to. Remember, he asked for feedback and I gave it. Seems like you are just tryin' to re-inforce other poeple's opinions just to go along with the crowd and I think that's a shame. Maybe you should of suggested something new for him to try out instead of pointing a finger on why something isn't satisfactory for him.
Regardless, I like the original poster's pic and I hope he has more to share in the future. ;)
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