580ex Ii

[EOS Man]

So far, no one's said anything about this new flash from Canon. What makes it weathersealed at the foot area (connecting to the hotshoe)? And how much is the retail price?

[cdifoto]

So far, no one's said anything about this new flash from Canon. What makes it weathersealed at the foot area (connecting to the hotshoe)? And how much is the retail price?

It'll probably be the same price as the original 580EX. Don't know how/if it's sealed at the connection. Probably isn't. The announcement doesn't say it's "weathersealed" just "dust & moisture resistant." "Moisture" isn't "rain." Big difference. The 1 Series aren't water proof or weather sealed either. They're gasketed for weather resistance though. Again, big difference.

[EOS Man]

It'll probably be the same price as the original 580EX. Don't know how/if it's sealed at the connection. Probably isn't. The announcement doesn't say it's "weathersealed" just "dust & moisture resistant." "Moisture" isn't "rain." Big difference. The 1 Series aren't water proof or weather sealed either. They're gasketed for weather resistance though. Again, big difference.

Whoa, I didn't know there was somewhat of a catch there. Anyway, if it's gonna be the same price as the original, means the 580EX I will be dropping in price...great

[cdifoto]

Whoa, I didn't know there was somewhat of a catch there. Anyway, if it's gonna be the same price as the original, means the 580EX I will be dropping in price...great

I said probably. Don't take my word as gospel. Having a high post count doesn't mean I have a clue what I'm talking about. :D

[sunnythepsychocat]

It'll probably be the same price as the original 580EX. Don't know how/if it's sealed at the connection. Probably isn't. The announcement doesn't say it's "weathersealed" just "dust & moisture resistant." "Moisture" isn't "rain." Big difference. The 1 Series aren't water proof or weather sealed either. They're gasketed for weather resistance though. Again, big difference.

No camera body is waterproof, but 1 series is weathersealed hence it can work in the light rain. I think the 580 EX II has the same weatherseal as Mark III hence it can work in the light rain.

[adam75south]

if you're shooting in the rain without a plastic bag or something over you $4,000 camera, weather sealing or not, you got problems.

[sunnythepsychocat]

Whoa, I didn't know there was somewhat of a catch there. Anyway, if it's gonna be the same price as the original, means the 580EX I will be dropping in price...great

I think it will cost a little more.
I will guess it will cost $150 more than the current 580EX.

[sunnythepsychocat]

if you're shooting in the rain without a plastic bag or something over you $4,000 camera, weather sealing or not, you got problems.
Sure, if it is pouring or in that nature. If it is pouring, then I think you need a underwater housing:D
Per Canon's selling pitch, 1 series camera and most of the L series lenses can work in the "light rain." Don't really know what that means.

[DonSchap]

There are a number of good "raincoats" for DSLRs, but the intelligent user doesn't take his high-end rig out in weather like that. Weather-sealed or not, its more "IF" you get caught in the weather, ran than plowing into the weather. You should have a backup rig to your high-end unit ... which you can afford to take that kind of chance with. Use that one, instead, because the chances of getting solid-looking images, in that kind of weather, are slim to none and ... of course, as we all know, "Slim's out of town."

Can you imagine telling your tale ... "Yeah, I was out there, in that hurricane, with my brand new EOS 1D MkIII ... and I got this terrific picture of a palm tree heaved through a apartment wall ... when the rain picked up ... and the 1D suddenly just dropped dead." Could I have gotten that same dramatic image from an XTi? One can only wonder.

Sorry, I have more respect for $4000 than doing something like that. Accch, that's just me, though. :rolleyes: Spend away!

In fact, my first experience with a Canon DSLR was when my enthusiastic Physics instructor, from high school. He had gone to Europe to shoot Rome and London, and unexpectedly dipped his beloved camera into a fountain, while bending over. Yep, that was the end of that camera and he was one unhappy camper, to be sure, for quite awhile afterwards. No warranty covered that one. That was thirty-six years ago, and I never forgot the lesson he had taught me: That water and expensive cameras are not a good mix.

Even speaking recently to a diver who has tons of underwater camera shots ... his advice was ... "I don't care what kind of diving box you have around your camera, they all leak, eventually ... and it only takes ONCE!" Truer words were never spoken. I will trust his real-time experience against anything hypothetical presented here. :p

[cdifoto]

There are a number of good "raincoats" for DSLRs, but the intelligent user doesn't take his high-end rig out in weather like that. Weather-sealed or not, its more "IF" you get caught in the weather, ran than plowing into the weather. You should have a backup rig to your high-end unit ... which you can afford to take that kind of chance with. Use that one, instead, because the chances of getting solid-looking images, in that kind of weather, are slim to none and ... of course, as we all know, "Slim's out of town."

Can you imagine telling your tale ... "Yeah, I was out there, in that hurricane, with my brand new EOS 1D MkIII ... and I got this terrific picture of a palm tree heaved through a apartment wall ... when the rain picked up ... and the 1D suddenly just dropped dead." Could I have gotten that same dramatic image from an XTi? One can only wonder.

Sorry, I have more respect for $4000 than doing something like that. Accch, that's just me, though. :rolleyes: Spend away!

In fact, my first experience with a Canon DSLR was when my enthusiastic Physics instructor, from high school. He had gone to Europe to shoot Rome and London, and unexpectedly dipped his beloved camera into a fountain, while bending over. Yep, that was the end of that camera and he was one unhappy camper, to be sure, for quite awhile afterwards. No warranty covered that one. That was thirty-six years ago, and I never forgot the lesson he had taught me: That water and expensive cameras are not a good mix.

Even speaking recently to a diver who has tons of underwater camera shots ... his advice was ... "I don't care what kind of diving box you have around your camera, they all leak, eventually ... and it only takes ONCE!" Truer words were never spoken. I will trust his real-time experience against anything hypothetical presented here. :p

You sure have quite the knack for taking the scenic route.

[adam75south]

You sure have quite the knack for taking the scenic route.

it's as if we shared the same thought. as if we were one.

[DonSchap]

You sure have quite the knack for taking the scenic route.

it's as if we shared the same thought. as if we were one.

Remember: It's the Journey, not the destination. In the end, we all wind up in the same location.

Boy oh boy, talk about a DUST ISSUE! :eek:

[adam75south]

Remember: It's the Journey, not the destination. In the end, we all wind up in the same location.

Boy oh boy, talk about a DUST ISSUE! :eek:

yea well, my canon L lens will still be around.