EOS 1D Mark III - Your wallet's opinion

[EOS Man]

Sure looks nice and I wish I could afford one right now (but sadly, I can't :( ). So what do your wallet's say about the EOS 1D Mark III?

[RichNY]

Done deal.:D

[forno]

I would prefer $4k of glass first, 30D's are getting into my range now though

[boog]

Not ever a flicka of a chance plus I'm with Forno. I'd rather have the glass.

[ReF]

would love to have an AF system like that. i'm ready to drop $3500 on a body this spring but i'm wondering what else canon would have to offer. BTW not including the mk III, does anyone know if the 1ds mkII and 1d II n has the same AF capabilities?

the new extra features are pretty nice too, & i'm glad i didn't pick up a 580 mk1 a few days ago :) .

[EOS Man]

Hmm... I made my glass roadmap last year after I bought my 30D, but after a slight change in calculations to accomodate a APS-H camera (means substituting EF-S for EF), it now says:

I need to spend about $4k on some four lenses and an extender first (decent coverage of 31-520mm equivalent, after 1.3X crop) before it is worthwhile to get a 1D Mark III, which will cost another $4k :rolleyes: and that's gonna take a long long long while since I'm now using microstock sites to pocket a few more dollars for lenses (amount earned after 3 months of hard work: $1.50 - no typo there, a dollar fifty). Anyone got a better idea :p ?

$8k more to spend so I can have a set of decent lenses and 2 bodies.... I'm barely there with a few crummy lenses and a 30D right now. At least I can dream, right ;) ?

[cdifoto]

My wallet says "no way in hell" but my manhood says "sproiinngggg"

[forno]

My manhood has left the building:o

No way in hell I will be getting that in the next few years:(

30D is a different story though

[cdifoto]

No doubt. It's on my radar but it has to take a back seat to an IS upgrade in my 70-200 and a few more studio lights & accessories.

[EOS Man]

Must... must... must have... must have... MUST have 1D Mark III :D

[RichNY]

As cool as the MIII is I'm wondering if more people are going to be drooling over the 1Ds and 5D replacements when they come out.

[forno]

As cool as the MIII is I'm wondering if more people are going to be drooling over the 1Ds and 5D replacements when they come out.

When? PMA?

[RichNY]

When? PMA?

I've got no idea- I should have said 'whenever they come out'

[EOS Man]

As cool as the MIII is I'm wondering if more people are going to be drooling over the 1Ds and 5D replacements when they come out.

Well, maybe for those who crave high resolution/full frame...

Not me though, I'm obsessed with speed.

[forno]

LOL, at your sig EOSMAN

[RichNY]

LOL, at your sig EOSMAN

Be nice, 10fps on a sunny day is still 10fps :D
EOSMAN, any more items on your wish list we are going to have to set up a registry for ya :)

[cwphoto]

I just ordered two. :cool:

Trump that Richo! :D

[cwphoto]

BTW not including the mk III, does anyone know if the 1ds mkII and 1d II n has the same AF capabilities?

Pretty much, I can't tell them apart.

[Forced Perfect]

Am I the only one who was giggling like a little kid while reading the press release? I don't think a poorly paid security guard can afford one though!

[RichNY]

I just ordered two. :cool:

Trump that Richo! :D

I'm humbled- Like they say imitation is the highest form of flatery:D

Congrats! At 10fps you should be able to shoot enough wedding footage to be done for the day before they serve the cake!

[adam75south]

holy crap. 10fps! ISO 6400! dual processor! i love it.

no way i'll be getting this anytime soon. ONLY if the photography buys this one for me. if ANYTHING an xt will be in my future.

[adam75south]

what pisses me off is the 580ex II. dammit i coulda used that metal foot part a couple months ago.

[sunnythepsychocat]

Man, only $4k for Mark III:eek:
I think you should forget about 5D and 30D replacement:D
I will get one for sure;)

Here is the link to the Mark III anoucement.
www.dpreview.com
Here is the link to the Mark III white paper.
http://www.jirvana.com/pdfs/EOS_1D_Mark_III_WP_070221.pdf

Enjoy

[EOS Man]

what pisses me off is the 580ex II. dammit i coulda used that metal foot part a couple months ago.

Sure would've helped alright. By the way, how much was the repair?

[EOS Man]

holy crap. 10fps! ISO 6400! dual processor! i love it.

Aaargh, you're tempting me even more :p ...

Don't forget the live view and wonderful wireless camera control setup; :D

Insane battery life and level of user customization; :D

And the big LCD for showing off; :D

And the weather resistant body; :D

And...and...and...

I could go on forever but I've got one more thing.

I can't remember what it was.

Yeah, and the price :( !

Everything's great except the price...too high

[adam75south]

Sure would've helped alright. By the way, how much was the repair?

$127. not too bad, but over 1/4 of the price i paid to get the thing in the first place. still haven't seen a dime from the dude that broke it. and i don't assist him anymore either.

[adam75south]

Aaargh, you're tempting me even more :p ...

Don't forget the live view and wonderful wireless camera control setup; :D

Insane battery life and level of user customization; :D

And the big LCD for showing off; :D

And the weather resistant body; :D

And...and...and...

I could go on forever but I've got one more thing.

I can't remember what it was.

Yeah, and the price :( !

Everything's great except the price...too high
if you think about it. 300,000 shutter actuations is like 3 30d's so really it's about the same price as 3 30d's but with a better camera, so you actually get a BETTER deal.

[timmciglobal]

Interesting upgrade the biggest thing I like is the adjustable AF for up to 20 lenses.

That's seriously hot. Alone that would make me want a mk3.

Tim

[EOS Man]

LOL, at your sig EOSMAN

LoL I know, it's in hopes that I'll one day receive a box full of lenses from a kind DCRP forum member :D

Be nice, 10fps on a sunny day is still 10fps :D
EOSMAN, any more items on your wish list we are going to have to set up a registry for ya :)

Sounds like a great idea...I need to do some planning first.

[24Peter]

If I were a sports shooter (or a hyper-active WP :p ), this might be a great camera. But I don't need all that processing power or the hyper AF. I'm waiting to see what happens with the 5D and its progeny.

[aparmley]

I voted NO and it has nothing to do with my wallet.

[RichNY]

Just heard back from B&H that they aren't taking pre-orders yet; my local camera shop's will be holding one for me though.

[Rhys]

I think it's a nice camera but... weren't we saying this last year and the year before that and the previous year too. There will always be a newer brighter better camera. Back in the film days there was the F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6 in Nikon professional film SLRs. The difference between them was something and nothing. The somethings were technological upgrades that made things easier. The nothings - none of the upgrades made any real difference to the finished photo. I can take pretty much the same photo with a Nikon F1 that I can with a Canon 1D Mk3.

The point is that there's too much of a tendency to jump on the upgrade bandwaggon. Sure - if I get serious about professional photography then I'll go for a 5D. Heck, I might even get the 5D anyway but what stops me is not the cost but the unpleasant thought of spending the money. My ex boss called me a Jew at about the same time my wife added "owitz" to the end of my name :p In reality I'm very careful with my money.

I'm toying with the idea of getting the Canon 70-200 f4L IS and the 5D, combining that with my Tamron 28-75. I'm also toying with the idea of getting the 70-300 F4-5.6 IS to use with my XT.

[timmciglobal]

Some of stuff I like:

Live preview with 10X mag for macro stuff.
AF calibration on up to 20 lenses.
New 19 cross sensor AF system (still 45 points for tracking)
1/300th x-synch (hey sports fan)
300K shutter
Bigger zone meter (63 zones now)

That's a lot to offer in a new "1" series if ya ask me, they could of done far less and sold a bunch this is a nice upgrade.

Now if I only had 4 grand to plunk down :p

Tim

[adam75south]

that's alot of ramen noodles and grits i'm gonna have to eat.

[coldrain]

that's alot of ramen noodles and grits i'm gonna have to eat.
Maybe you can just squeeze a can of Spam in on the weekends :p

[DonSchap]

Look ... for that kind of coin, you could have three complete EOS 30Ds working for you. Get a remote-control and you're packin' 15 fps firepower, plus duplication ... and stereoscopic possibilities. That sounds like a lot more fun than a weather-proofed, rapid-fire, overpriced, new-proprietary flashed, non-full-framed 5D!

Sorry, but this is not that big an improvement ... it's more like a consolidation at 1.3x DCP and 10.1 MP.

Impressed ... I am not. :(

BTW: Who are they makin' this for? It certainly wasn't my "dream camera!"

And what's with the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM? - YAWN! :p

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Now, had it been a EF 16-75mm f/2.8L IS USM OMG! :eek: Would there have been anything MORE useful? I think not!

[coldrain]

Look ... for that kind of coin, you could have three complete EOS 30Ds working for you. Get a remote-control and you're packin' 15 fps firepower, plus duplication ... and stereoscopic possibilities. That sounds like a lot more fun than a rapid-fire, overpriced, non-full-framed 5D!

Sorry, but this is not that big an improvement ... it's more like a consolidation at 1.3 DCP and 10.1 MP.

Impressed ... I am not. :(

BTW: Who are they makin' this for? It certainly wasn't my "dream camera!"

And what's with the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM? - YAWN!

Now, had it been a EF 16-75mm f/2.8L IS USM OMG!
Yeah... 10.1 mp at 10 frames per second... Why be impressed? It is not like your dual processor duo core PC at 3ghz can't muster the same data and processing rates... Huh? What you say? It can't?

Ok then.. it is not like Canon put a camera on the market that is faster than anything else on the market by a huge margin. Huh? What you say? There is nothing even close to it?

Well.. Impressed ... I am not that you are not impressed. :(

Hint: They make it for real photographers, not you. (Nor me). Photographers hunting for sellable photographs of sports, war zones, news items, paparazi and celebrity stuff. And CW.

Yeah... why on earth is Canon improving on an older lens design!!! No, Canon! We do not want less CA! And no, we do not want sharper optics! NO do not make the USM faster!

[Wesan]

I thought professional cameras like that would have a "full size" sensor. But it doesn't. Why is that? :confused:

[RichNY]

And CW.

LOL. I'm sure CW's mug is hung in Canon's marketing department with 'Target Demographic' underneath ;)

[DonSchap]

Yeah... 10.1 mp at 10 frames per second... Why be impressed? It is not like your dual processor duo core PC at 3ghz can't muster the same data and processing rates... Huh? What you say? It can't?

Ok then.. it is not like Canon put a camera on the market that is faster than anything else on the market by a huge margin. Huh? What you say? There is nothing even close to it?

Well.. Impressed ... I am not that you are not impressed. :(

Hint: They make it for real photographers, not you. (Nor me). Photographers hunting for sellable photographs of sports, war zones, news items, paparazi and celebrity stuff. And CW.

Well, there it is, then. We are at the cut off, from Photographers and ... non-

The line is drawn! For a mere $4000, you too can join the club.

I hate to think I'd have to imbed myself in some clandestine fire-team, in a far-off land; stand in a cluster of shutterbugs, along a sideline; or hide in the rain to "attack photograph" some poor "skirt" to make my new camera "worthwhile".

Hey, I'm just not buying into that. We all know (you included) what "the rest of the world" is looking for in a camera. Wouldn't it be great if someone finally made the darn thing?

[RichNY]

Go ahead and say it Don, I'm sure you can't hold it in much longer anyway;)

If we all just sell our Canon glass and replace it with Tamron glass we'd have XYZ% of the money towards an MIII.

[DonSchap]

Go ahead and say it Don, I'm sure you can't hold it in much longer anyway;)

If we all just sell our Canon glass and replace it with Tamron glass we'd have XYZ% of the money towards an MIII.


I'm ... I'm ... I'm not going to! :p

The TAMRON issue is a completely different matter, entirely. And just because they happen to be one of the best third-party glass-makers on the planet has absolutely nothing to do with this.

With that not being said ... and back to the OPs intent ... the MK III has missed the MARK, in my book! :mad:

Besides, I'll bet this was chalked up to be the EOS-3D, but they didn't want to confuse it in marketing. It has a lot of the EOS-3 type controls. Get your hands on one and take a peek! I remember remarking to myself as I read the specs, "This looks like a EOS-3 on Digi-roids ("Steroids" spelled digitally)!"

[forno]

With that not being said ... and back to the OPs intent ... the MK III has missed the MARK, in my book! :mad:


Im sure Canon are really upset that you are not happy Don:rolleyes:

[coldrain]

I thought professional cameras like that would have a "full size" sensor. But it doesn't. Why is that? :confused:
Because this one is built for reporting, for speed. Not for exact focal length knowledge built up over years for studio stuff.

The extra focal length is welcome in most cases anyway, and you avoid corners of lenses when wide open... I do not see a disadvantage of not full frame in this camera.

If you are a pro who needs/wants full frame, you have the 1Ds, not the 1D. 1D = speed, 1Ds = full frame huge resolution. take your pick, pro!

[DonSchap]

Im sure Canon are really upset that you are not happy Don:rolleyes:

Do YOU even know what you are saying Don, because I dont????

I am, like many others, waiting for my discount coupons (DCs) and letter of apology (LOA). :p

Tick me off, will ya! :mad:

Look ... all I ask ... or have ever asked is: "Build me a camera I want to buy!"

But they won't ... and the reason is ... because it would be the last camera you would ever buy! These companies need "retreads" ... people coming back for the latest and greatest. If they actually gave you all and what you really wanted, you'd be gone with the wind, never to return ... unless it broke or they abandoned it.

There are actually people out there that will buy stuff JUST because it has the word "Canon" stapled to it. What is the heck do T-shirts have to do with a good camera? or lens? or even a flash? :confused:

Hey ... didn't we go through this with the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM? And now we have the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM (non-IS)... uh, is it just me or what? They couldn't even build it to use EF-S lenses? What part of a $1000 bite did I miss with this one? ;)

[forno]

Do YOU even know what you are saying Don, because I dont????

[coldrain]

Ummm.... IS on a full frame 16-35mm f2.8 lens. Yeah, I totally would understand that. Oh wait... No, I don't.

Don, IS gets to have more and more use the longer the focal length goes. You really have not much use with IS on 16-35mm full frame.

[timmciglobal]

1.3 imho is a perfect compromise between crop and full frame.

I've got no use for FF. Unless you NEED <16 mm or so you have no use for full frame either. Why? Because Every other focal length is getable outside of the ultra wide on crop.

Full frame is a 75% marketing hype 25% real improvement. Most of that improvement comes in form of noise due to larger pixel sites but the hidden downside is you're using the edge of glass which usually has inferior performance versus inner area of glass.

Tim

[30D or XTI]

Look ... for that kind of coin, you could have three complete EOS 30Ds working for you. Get a remote-control and you're packin' 15 fps firepower, plus duplication ... and stereoscopic possibilities. That sounds like a lot more fun than a weather-proofed, rapid-fire, overpriced, new-proprietary flashed, non-full-framed 5D!

Sorry, but this is not that big an improvement ... it's more like a consolidation at 1.3x DCP and 10.1 MP.

Impressed ... I am not. :(

BTW: Who are they makin' this for? It certainly wasn't my "dream camera!"

And what's with the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM? - YAWN! :p

20579

Now, had it been a EF 16-75mm f/2.8L IS USM OMG! :eek: Would there have been anything MORE useful? I think not!

Hi Don,

If you use the Mark III, you are no longer need to see the world with one eye, you can shoot with both eyes open through the live view LCD with AF On or manual focus with the option of 5x to 10x zoom in focus. How many times that we trying to chase a subject with one eye shooting that our feet always step on something or trap by something ? This is the very first D-SLR with Live View shooting by Canon. I think lots of pros would love to have one for different situations.

[ReF]

They couldn't even build it to use EF-S lenses?

image circle, sensor size.

Do YOU even know what you are saying Don, because I dont????

yeah i'm not sure what's going on there either. "missed the mark" for don eh? canon built it as an major improvement over the old model, for certain kinds of photographers - they weren't in development to make "schap's dream camera" :rolleyes:.

& i'm totally surprised but really glad they worked on a FF ultra wide zoom, which was where i thought canon to be weak. i had already planned to resort to an expensive non-canon mount WA in MF when i went FF - hopefully this new zoom turns out good and will actually save me a few bucks

[cdifoto]

I think it's a nice camera but... weren't we saying this last year and the year before that and the previous year too. There will always be a newer brighter better camera. Back in the film days there was the F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6 in Nikon professional film SLRs. The difference between them was something and nothing. The somethings were technological upgrades that made things easier. The nothings - none of the upgrades made any real difference to the finished photo. I can take pretty much the same photo with a Nikon F1 that I can with a Canon 1D Mk3.

The point is that there's too much of a tendency to jump on the upgrade bandwaggon. Sure - if I get serious about professional photography then I'll go for a 5D. Heck, I might even get the 5D anyway but what stops me is not the cost but the unpleasant thought of spending the money. My ex boss called me a Jew at about the same time my wife added "owitz" to the end of my name :p In reality I'm very careful with my money.

I'm toying with the idea of getting the Canon 70-200 f4L IS and the 5D, combining that with my Tamron 28-75. I'm also toying with the idea of getting the 70-300 F4-5.6 IS to use with my XT.

I hope you realize the Mark III (or any 1 series for that matter) isn't aimed at you and your "type" of shooter. So it's fine that YOU don't feel YOU need or could use it. But there are folks out there that can and will.

And there most certainly are images you can take with a Mark III that you cannot take with your Nikon F1. You just don't do that kind of stuff.