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Nickcanada
01-14-2007, 08:54 PM
I'm going to be submiting a 15 second commertial to a local radio station for a competition they are putting on. The winner gets 5000 bucks! I would love to have that money so I need you all to be as honest as you can. I don't need friends I need critics. Does the timing sound right? Does it look profetional? They will be putting this on T.V. (CNN, Spike TV, Sports stations ect.)

Here is the link, PLEASE take some time and let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnyrdlyazV4

forno
01-14-2007, 09:06 PM
i JUST HAD A QUICK LOOK, LOOKS GOOD ON FIRST INSPECTION. tHE VERY LAST BAR OF THE SOUND TRACK IS CLIPPED VOCALS, i RECKON THAT NEEDS TO BE CUT

Oops caps lock:o

adam75south
01-14-2007, 09:45 PM
i think it looks awesome.

only thing that looks a little amateur is the black to the left and right of the chick singing and above the shot of the guy.

i'm thinking maybe zooming in close and panning in some direction slowly to get rid of the borders of the pics. other than that, it looks really good bro.

aparmley
01-14-2007, 09:46 PM
I think the music is all wrong. Whats the message here? Is your goal to attract new listeners? I think your visuals are pretty sweet but I think the music is all wrong. Your text is asking the potential viewer where have they been, why aren't they listening to this station yet - the song works before the lyrics start, "its hard to argue when you won't stop making sense. . ." I don't see the fit.

Other than that I'd clip the fading lyrics.

Nicely done on the graphics though man . . . and good god don't let them see this:


Does it look profetional?

LOL :D

adam75south
01-14-2007, 09:46 PM
p.s. good luck!

XaiLo
01-14-2007, 10:12 PM
Nick I sent you a PM.

24Peter
01-14-2007, 10:12 PM
I think it looks pretty good. I'd have my cuts a little faster I think but overall I could see it on-air. I assume you got releases on the photos and music?

forno
01-14-2007, 10:17 PM
I think it looks pretty good. I'd have my cuts a little faster I think but overall I could see it on-air. I assume you got releases on the photos and music?

Pics are all his, not sure about the toons though

24Peter
01-14-2007, 10:19 PM
Pics are all his, not sure about the toons though
His perhaps - but the people he photographed may have some say in how their image is used. In the US, it's called "right of publicity" and while it varies from state to state, no one would run a commercial on TV without a release from those people.

forno
01-14-2007, 10:23 PM
His perhaps - but the people he photographed may have some say in how their image is used. In the US, it's called "right of publicity" and while it varies from state to state, no one would run a commercial on TV without a release from those people.


True, didnt think of that:o

Nickcanada
01-15-2007, 05:53 AM
Thanks for all the replys. I'll need to sit down and go over every thing when I have some more time. Profetional, hehe, me speal god! Oh, man I'm in trouble!:D

About the pics, They are all mine except the one at the end, I stole it from the station. I know all the artists that I have taken pics for. and all the pics were taken at LiVE events, so all is well there too. The music is from Snow Patrol. The guys at the station told every one to not worrie about that stuff, they would take care of all the leagal stuff it was chosen.... I think the easyest to legal will have a huge advantage so I might use an intro from my brother's band.

Thanks, for all the advice. I'll post some more stuff later but here is some of my compition. Look closely at that first pic! It's one of mine! I'm not sure how I'm going to handle that. I don't mind people using my pics as long as they are not for advertising or will in some way make other people money if I have not been paid first! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFZFiuxvdfw

And here are the rest of em, if you got the time:)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=88.5&search=Search

aparmley
01-15-2007, 08:54 AM
Hey Nick. I got to see a few of the competitors. . . other than the one that ripped your photo off, which IMHO should be grounds for disqualification, but it doesn't matter - their cuts are wayyyy tooooo fast bro. I like yours the best man - I like your chances.

Best of luck and let us know!

I retract my comment about your music choice - its not what this compt is going to come down too . . . I mean you do have that bedroom loser sign vid to watch out for but other than that man, I like your chances.

Nickcanada
01-15-2007, 10:36 AM
Thanks for taking a look. I've been thinking maybe scrap my current add and try somthing a little more youtubeish. The radio station's mantra is "LIVE LIFE LIVE" and I think if they wanted a pro add they would have just done one. I think I should try going over the top on this one. Better production quality and different content. I really think my competion for this contest hasn't showed up yet. The contest closes the end of the month I think that's when the good adds will show up. There is another photographer around who used to work in video broadcasting so I'm sure he's got something good in the works.

The only thing I'm a little worried about is the adds going into the finnals will be voted for by friends and the such. That means I've got to do some serious marketing for this thing to make sure it even gets in the running.

adam75south
01-15-2007, 01:40 PM
what are you using to edit your video?

Nickcanada
01-15-2007, 03:06 PM
Windows Movie maker, I wasn't even going to enter the competion until I noticed it was on my computer. I've never even opened the programe before:D I put that clip together in a few hours learning and playing around last night. It's fun and easy to use. :)

adam75south
01-15-2007, 05:06 PM
ah, i see. kinda limited there. you did great for what you were stuck with though.

i can help you clean up that song if you want.

Nickcanada
01-16-2007, 07:56 PM
My true competion has shown itself.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPX9hiAX4c&eurl=

adam75south
01-16-2007, 08:02 PM
i think it was produced well and all, but it wasn't funny. don't be discouraged bro..

aparmley
01-16-2007, 08:57 PM
i think it was produced well and all ... don't be discouraged bro..

I agree - I thought it was funny though - but way too cramped for 15 seconds and it looks like everything else out there - way too much emphasis on everything but the music. . . yours has edge and flare.

Nickcanada
01-21-2007, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys! I made a new one. I sent it in to the station an hour ago. Hopefully they will have it loaded to their site tomorrow so voting can begin. I wish I could have had more time to try different aproaches but I just don't have the time. I'll let you know when you can all vote for my clip:)

Thanks so much for all the support guys!

Oh and let me know what you think of the new one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yspGIQ1ovrc

cdifoto
01-21-2007, 03:33 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys! I made a new one. I sent it in to the station an hour ago. Hopefully they will have it loaded to their site tomorrow so voting can begin. I wish I could have had more time to try different aproaches but I just don't have the time. I'll let you know when you can all vote for my clip:)

Thanks so much for all the support guys!

Oh and let me know what you think of the new one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yspGIQ1ovrc

That's a helluva lot better. And the competitions looked more like a Microsoft ad.

Nickcanada
01-21-2007, 03:44 PM
Thanks, ya there are some... intresting.... clips out there.

I used a song from my brother's band. I'm hoping that will give me a slight edge in the legal side of things when it comes down to the final decission. I'm still worried about that one ad though... man that one is good. Oh well I'll do what I can to get into the final round and see what happens from there. I won't be holding my breath though.

forno
01-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Much better than your first cut:D

Really like the tempo and the feel live pics give it!

Dont forget to post up the link to vote:D

Nickcanada
01-21-2007, 04:01 PM
Thanks Forno, don't worrie I'll let you guys know where you can vote. ;)

One of my biggest fears is that I won't even make it to the next round. They are advertising it as a "popularity contest" and if some kid who spent 20 min. in movie maker makes it to the final round and I don't I'll be P%$^# I can't tell you how much time I spent messing around in Premiere Pro on this and every time I watch it I see things I want to change. I just had to stop and submit it. I'm driving my self crazy!

Nickcanada
01-22-2007, 09:25 AM
It's up!!! PLEASE vote for me:D Nick Brownrigg!


http://www.livelifelive.fm/index.asp?ObjID=9406

JMWallace
01-22-2007, 09:46 AM
Hey Nick, my vote is in, but there seems to be a problem with some of the links. A viewing screen for yours and about 6 or so others isn't showing up.

For you, all I see is this:

#29 - Nick Brownrigg
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yspGIQ1ovrc"> </param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yspGIQ1ovrc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Call 'em and see wazzup wit dat?

adam75south
01-22-2007, 09:51 AM
you got one from me....

so you picked up the premiere pro. did you check out those tutorials i sent you? the program is really tough to start on...but once you figure out nested sequencing and keyframes it becomes easy.

adam75south
01-22-2007, 09:51 AM
Hey Nick, my vote is in, but there seems to be a problem with some of the links. A viewing screen for yours and about 6 or so others isn't showing up.

For you, all I see is this:

#29 - Nick Brownrigg
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yspGIQ1ovrc"> </param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yspGIQ1ovrc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Call 'em and see wazzup wit dat?

yea same for me nick. can't see your video either.

cdifoto
01-22-2007, 10:56 AM
How the hell do you vote?? :confused:

Nickcanada
01-22-2007, 10:57 AM
Thanks for the support guys! The video is now up and working.

Ya I asked around and one of my buddies has it. I spent a ton of time on it. Every time I thought I was done I just kept going deeper into it. I had to just stop and submit what I had.

So what do you think of the new one?

The campaign begins!!!!

Nickcanada
01-22-2007, 11:04 AM
How the hell do you vote?? :confused:

At the bottom of the page you should see a bunch of white circles. Next to the circles should be the names of all the contestants BUT their web site sucks and sometime doesn't show the names if you highlight the names with your cursor you should be able to see the names. Hope this helps. Let me know.

cdifoto
01-22-2007, 11:39 AM
At the bottom of the page you should see a bunch of white circles. Next to the circles should be the names of all the contestants BUT their web site sucks and sometime doesn't show the names if you highlight the names with your cursor you should be able to see the names. Hope this helps. Let me know.

I found it. I think I voted for ya. I had to reverse count to match up cuz even if I tried to highlight nothing showed up. Dunno if my vote was even successful but I tried.

adam75south
01-22-2007, 01:44 PM
i had to open with IE, wouldn't work in my firefox. luckily firefox kicks so much ass, all i had to do is click this button that switches the page to IE(it's an extension)....anyway, sorry off topic.

adam75south
01-22-2007, 01:45 PM
btw, nick you should make a new thread for the voting, it will be easy for everyone to miss it on this thread.