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cwphoto
10-23-2006, 04:47 AM
Took the boys out to Richmond for the Air Show on the weekend.

A few pics.

Tigermoth. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 400mm. 1/125s @ f/8, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 04:48 AM
DeHavilland Vampire. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 400mm. 1/1,250s @ f/8, ISO 200::

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 04:50 AM
F/A-18 Hornet. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 400mm. 1/200s @ f/7.1, ISO 100:

mediyoga
10-23-2006, 04:53 AM
CW- superb catches!
could you tell me the aperture and shutter you used and the iso?

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 04:53 AM
Hornet just landed. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 225mm. 1/100s @ f/8, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 04:55 AM
CW- superb catches!
could you tell me the aperture and shutter you used and the iso?

I'll add them to the images.:o

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:01 AM
Hornet close-up - thanks for the show. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 190mm. 1/100s @ f/8, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:08 AM
F-111 with afterburners. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 400mm. 1/125s @ f/8, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:14 AM
Pilatus PC-9/A (Roulettes). EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 400mm. 1/100s @ f/11, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:18 AM
Hornet formation. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 400mm. 1/250s @ f/6.3, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:26 AM
USAF C-17 Globemaster just landed. EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extedner EF 2x II @ 210mm. 1/125s @ f/7.1, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:32 AM
USAF C-17 Globemaster in flight. It's a big sucker! EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM & Extender EF 2x II @ 235mm. 1/125s @ f/7.1, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:35 AM
Tom at the business end of an F-111, Nicholas hiding in the stroller. EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L USM @ 16mm. 1/60s @ f/8, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:39 AM
Tom's favourite: the F/A-18 Hornet. Nicholas still unimpressed. EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L USM @ 16mm. 1/125s @ f/7.1, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:42 AM
My favourite; the F-111 - ultimate fighter/bomber. EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L USM @ 16mm. 1/80s @ f/8, ISO 100:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:45 AM
Tom with a "bomb". EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L USM @ 19mm. 1/100s @ f/7.1, ISO 100:

24Peter
10-23-2006, 08:19 AM
Nice work Christian. Love shot #3 of the Hornet in flight. :)

NewTekBuzz
10-23-2006, 09:10 AM
cw... very nice!! you have some great shots there. are you happy with the results that you are getting from your 70-200 f/2.8 IS w/2x extender??

adam75south
10-23-2006, 10:26 AM
cw... very nice!! you have some great shots there. are you happy with the results that you are getting from your 70-200 f/2.8 IS w/2x extender??
my thoughts exactly.

very nice shots.

JMWallace
10-23-2006, 11:02 AM
They are ALL good, but I am with Peter...I really like #3!

noyjimi
10-23-2006, 11:18 AM
Great shots, I like #3 best also.

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 01:38 PM
cw... very nice!! you have some great shots there. are you happy with the results that you are getting from your 70-200 f/2.8 IS w/2x extender??

The ones that worked seem to be quite acceptable, trouble is that there are many which didn't quite focus accurately but really the subject matter is actually quite challenging - grey planes against a grey sky didn't help for contrast so overall I'm pretty pleased with the way the combo worked.

This was for the RAAF's 85th anniversary - if there's an 86th I'll take the 300mm instead. I took the above combo for flexibility and portability (if ever you could call a 1-series and 70-200 f/2.8 portable :o ) but I was soon lamenting that the 300 was sitting in the cupboard at home.

Perfect lens in the Canon stable would have been the 100-400 L, but for some reason I'm not drawn to that lens - and CPS' cupboard was bare due to Indy. :(

forno
10-23-2006, 03:02 PM
Great work as usual mate!

How big are those C-17's, I was at Richmond last year working on the runway lighting upgrade and the Yanks came in with a C-17:eek: BIG

Shhhhhh apparently they go fishing in Guam and then put the fresh fish in the leading edge of the wing and it getsnap forzen on the way over, then they have a BBQ with the Aussie guys:cool: :cool:

NewTekBuzz
10-23-2006, 05:01 PM
THANKS cw.... your not making my choice for a new zoom lens an easy one!!

have you used a 100-400? I hear that the IQ is not as good as a 70-200?

I am looking at the 70-200 non IS w/580EX & BG or the 100-400 IS w/580EX

any thoughts

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:07 PM
THANKS cw.... your not making my choice for a new zoom lens an easy one!!

have you used a 100-400? I hear that the IQ is not as good as a 70-200?

I am looking at the 70-200 non IS w/580EX & BG or the 100-400 IS w/580EX

any thoughts

Gees Tim I dunno.

I've never used the 100-400 L - but f/4.5-5.6 scares me. Although I can imagine it being very versatile in good light - perfect for wildlife or airshows such as these, even daytime field sports (although I prefer the look of f/2.8 - who doesn't :o ).

It will really depend on your shooting - if you are going to be at 100-300ish then the 70-200 would get my vote, coupled with a 1.4x when you need it and you're still at f/4 with decent quality (albeit f/5 would be better).

Tough choice but if the light is marginal then f/2.8 all the way.

Bluedog
10-23-2006, 05:08 PM
awesome job indeed

NewTekBuzz
10-23-2006, 05:13 PM
cw do you think that a 70-200 non IS with a 1.4x would be handholdable in mid-day overcast type lighting?? I think im gonna DO IT right now :) im tired of reading.... and reading... and more reading

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:16 PM
cw do you think that a 70-200 non IS with a 1.4x would be handholdable in mid-day overcast type lighting?? I think im gonna DO IT right now :) im tired of reading.... and reading... and more reading

Yeah I reckon so. I had IS off for most of these, and I was at ISO 100/200 mostly (although there were a couple of shakers).

My only comment would be that the 70-200 f/2.8 non-IS doesn't allow you to use the off-centre AF points when coupled with Canon's Extenders (from memory). :(

mediyoga
10-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Now I am tempted to go for 70-200 is f 2.8. Do you think the 70-300 IS would have fared well for these shots?
May were shot in motion- and 1/125 seems to be enough for most of these in motion?

NewTekBuzz
10-23-2006, 05:24 PM
wheres coldrain... he'll tell you all about the 70-300 ;) coldrain... you there?? :D

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 05:35 PM
Now I am tempted to go for 70-200 is f 2.8. Do you think the 70-300 IS would have fared well for these shots?
May were shot in motion- and 1/125 seems to be enough for most of these in motion?

Medi, if I had my time again I would have changed a few things:
1) Higher shutter speeds for the jets - many were discarded due to movement. I initially wanted to go low to get the propellers for the non-jets blurred but forgot to change it up for the first jet shots. :o

2) I would have brought my 300mm or maybe rented a 100-400 for the day as 400mm just wasn't long enough at times (I could have used the 1.4x TC on the latter and the 2x TC on the former and had better shots IMO).

From the limited exposure I've had to this lens I think the 70-300 IS would have done a great job.

NewTekBuzz
10-23-2006, 06:03 PM
im looking at the last page "place your order" and wondering how much I would regret not getting the IS. BG-E2 + 580EX = IS :confused: everyone who has the non-IS..... wants the IS. why is it about the IS


EDIT: its done.... good night

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 11:31 PM
Great work as usual mate!

How big are those C-17's, I was at Richmond last year working on the runway lighting upgrade and the Yanks came in with a C-17:eek: BIG

Shhhhhh apparently they go fishing in Guam and then put the fresh fish in the leading edge of the wing and it getsnap forzen on the way over, then they have a BBQ with the Aussie guys:cool: :cool:

That's funny Man!

The brother of one of my best Mate's pilot's Hornets for a living ( :cool: ), some of the shenanigans those Air Force lads get up too...:rolleyes:

cwphoto
10-23-2006, 11:32 PM
im looking at the last page "place your order" and wondering how much I would regret not getting the IS. BG-E2 + 580EX = IS :confused: everyone who has the non-IS..... wants the IS. why is it about the IS


EDIT: its done.... good night

You bought the 70-200?

Way to go!

RichNY
10-24-2006, 12:21 AM
Tim Congradulations on your new lens. I bought the 70-200IS f/2.8 yesterday also.

Did you buy it from B&H during their 1 day only sale yesterday? I couldn't believe they were selling it for only $1349 with free overnight shipping, and then we get the fall rebates on top of that. What a steal! Post some pics.

NewTekBuzz
10-24-2006, 02:31 AM
PLEASE TELL ME RichNY that you are just kidding!!! I wish you would have poseted that in your "Lens Dilemma" post. I watched this boad ALL day yesterday and no one said anything about a one day sale... was it just on that lens? because everything else that ive been looking at was the same price. now im just pissed!!
Thanks :mad:

nism
10-24-2006, 03:29 AM
nice photos again

tim11
10-24-2006, 04:52 AM
Great Shots!!!

RichNY
10-24-2006, 07:43 AM
PLEASE TELL ME RichNY that you are just kidding!!! I wish you would have poseted that in your "Lens Dilemma" post. I watched this boad ALL day yesterday and no one said anything about a one day sale... was it just on that lens? because everything else that ive been looking at was the same price. now im just pissed!!
Thanks :mad:

Tim, I'm just messin' with you. I've been second guessing my purchases lately and just needed to make sure someone else could relate to that feeling;) Was it the 'free overnight shipping' that hooked you in?:D

NewTekBuzz
10-24-2006, 07:49 AM
DUDE!!!!! :D You have no idea how pissed off I have been for the past 4 hours… because that’s the kind of shit that happens to me!

OH and yeah… I called B&H :) DOH!! you can imagine how that went.

all in good fun

RichNY
10-24-2006, 07:59 AM
DUDE!!!!! :D You have no idea how pissed off I have been for the past 4 hours… because that’s the kind of shit that happens to me!

OH and yeah… I called B&H :) DOH!! you can imagine how that went.

all in good fun

ROFL- Tim, sorry I didn't post a retraction sooner. Posted it last night, went to bed, and forgot all about it until I read your comment in the other thread.

I'd give good money to hear a tape of your phone conversation with B&H though! Sorry to have put you thru that. The sale wasn't as good as I said- the free shipping was only UPS ground.;)

NewTekBuzz
10-24-2006, 09:40 AM
LOL like i said i have been in the same boat as you... read read read... wasnt sure what to get. then when i did finily make up my mind and press the buy button the very next thread was you getting the IS for 1350 LOL
should have my stuff for the weekend :) cant wait. my 20D will look and feel 5 times larger with flash/grip/70-200

RichNY
10-24-2006, 11:54 AM
cant wait. my 20D will look and feel 5 times larger with flash/grip/70-200

Now I'm confused. Why would you spend all that money on a 70-200 f/2.8 to use on a 20D since it won't autofocus unless you have a 30D, 5D, 1D, ect?;)

Sungrazer
10-24-2006, 01:48 PM
Now I'm confused. Why would you spend all that money on a 70-200 f/2.8 to use on a 20D since it won't autofocus unless you have a 30D, 5D, 1D, ect?;)

Yeah, and the IS doesn't work on the 20D either, Tim.

NewTekBuzz
10-24-2006, 01:51 PM
WHAT??? OMG I wonder if B&H will refund my money... ring ring... hello, abazoo here how can I help you. :p nice try RichNY

RichNY
10-24-2006, 02:06 PM
WHAT??? OMG I wonder if B&H will refund my money... ring ring... hello, abazoo here how can I help you. :p nice try RichNY

Better have someone else call for you or they'll recognize your voice:D

cwphoto
10-24-2006, 04:04 PM
Very entertaining clowns!:D

NewTekBuzz
10-24-2006, 04:33 PM
we dont have anything better to do while waiting for OUR NEW 70-200's BIG ASS GRIN ---->:D

ReF
10-27-2006, 04:22 AM
damn, just a few days old and this thread is on page two already.

looked like fun c-dub. now you're making me regret not attending the airshow in my area that just passed 2 weeks back even more. i guess cloudy days and air shows aren't just an issue in my area. you think you would've had time to switch cameras (when they come outta nowhere) if you had a long prime on one and a 70-200 + 1.4x on another? i'm hoping to hit up next year's show with just that. i'd try to answer that myself but it's been a while since my last show (2005) and i don't remember much besides being too busy trying to MF every shot (camera mirrors broke and AF wouldn't work!).

newteK: congrats! i know you've been agonizing over the purchase for a long time. if it came down to flash + f2.8 or f2.8 + IS, i'd choose the flash as well and save up for the IS later.

NewTekBuzz
10-27-2006, 06:09 AM
Thanks ReF.

Picked up my stuff last night from ups.. it was about 8:30 before I got to open any of the boxes!! I went with the 70-200 non-is, 580EX, and grip.... I will call him mini-TANK. :)

cwphoto
10-27-2006, 06:47 AM
damn, just a few days old and this thread is on page two already.

looked like fun c-dub. now you're making me regret not attending the airshow in my area that just passed 2 weeks back even more. i guess cloudy days and air shows aren't just an issue in my area. you think you would've had time to switch cameras (when they come outta nowhere) if you had a long prime on one and a 70-200 + 1.4x on another? i'm hoping to hit up next year's show with just that. i'd try to answer that myself but it's been a while since my last show (2005) and i don't remember much besides being too busy trying to MF every shot (camera mirrors broke and AF wouldn't work!).

Thanks for dropping by Mate. The dull day was a bummer, and it's a tough gig this airshow photography.

I'll be better armed next time.

sunnythepsychocat
10-27-2006, 12:00 PM
i don't remember much besides being too busy trying to MF every shot (camera mirrors broke and AF wouldn't work!).
Man, you must have super fast hands:eek: Did you get good pictures?

ReF
10-28-2006, 04:14 AM
Man, you must have super fast hands:eek: Did you get good pictures?

the one time i was there shooting i arrived on the last day and close to the end of the show so i only got to shoot the blue angels performance. there were usually a few seconds on each pass to track, zoom, and focus so it wasn't as bad as i was expecting. got about 60% in focus so i was pretty happy with that especially considering i had no experience doing anything similar before that time.

RichNY
10-28-2006, 04:44 AM
What makes CW's shots more impressive was that all the aerials were shot at night using flash:D

ReF
10-28-2006, 04:58 AM
Thanks for dropping by Mate. The dull day was a bummer, and it's a tough gig this airshow photography.

I'll be better armed next time.

something was hard to shoot for c-dub? shocker!! :eek:

Honest Gaza
10-28-2006, 06:25 AM
What makes CW's shots more impressive was that all the aerials were shot at night using flash:D

....and he had to switch horses when the first one got tired :)