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lundrog
08-24-2006, 06:29 AM
I bought a Digital Rebel XT hit, a speed light 430 , and a 4 gb flash card, and tripod a month ago.

I have two friends that want me to shoot their weddings due to lack of funds on their side.

This is happening this weekend and next weekend....

My question is, do I need another lens/lens for this wedding?

Now, I am not getting paid for this, but this is a hobby so I don't mind spending a little under 1k Max, under $500 if possible.

I am in the process of reading several books before this weekend....

But I want to make sure I can the best shots I can. I would like recommendations for lens, and since I am new I wouldn’t mine explanations on the differences between my options. I did look at the forums and saw a few posts but like I said, I wouldn’t mind to know why I should get an 85mm vs. a 50mm f1.4 ( example). I wonder if I should get a fixed lens or a variable please help me out.

Thanks

Rhys
08-24-2006, 06:32 AM
I bought a Digital Rebel XT hit, a speed light 430 , and a 4 gb flash card, and tripod a month ago.

I have two friends that want me to shoot their weddings due to lack of funds on their side.

This is happening this weekend and next weekend....

My question is, do I need another lens/lens for this wedding?

Now, I am not getting paid for this, but this is a hobby so I don't mind spending a little under 1k Max, under $500 if possible.

I am in the process of reading several books before this weekend....

But I want to make sure I can the best shots I can. I would like recommendations for lens, and since I am new I wouldn’t mine explanations on the differences between my options. I did look at the forums and saw a few posts but like I said, I wouldn’t mind to know why I should get an 85mm vs. a 50mm f1.4 ( example). I wonder if I should get a fixed lens or a variable please help me out.

Thanks


If you can't stretch to the Canon 24-70L then the Tamron 28-75 should do the job well enough. Do not use the kit lens.

cwphoto
08-24-2006, 07:05 AM
EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM out of your league?

jamison55
08-24-2006, 07:20 AM
How 'bout a 50 f1.8

+

Tamron 28-75 f2.8 (or 17-50 f2.8)
OR
Sigma 24-70 f2.8
OR
Canon 28-105 f3.5-4.5 (Just don't buy Andy's :D )

And, ignore Rhys, go ahead and use your Kit lens. I did for my first wedding and the clients never knew the difference...

24Peter
08-24-2006, 09:10 AM
Drog - you're gonna do great. Jamie's lens suggestions are good ones. The only other thing to consider is how to soften the light from your 430EX in case you can't bounce it. There are many options. Here's one: http://www.takegreatphotos.com/light_reflector.php (You can just use a rubberband if you don't want to velcro your flash.)

Can't wait to see your photos! :)

aparmley
08-24-2006, 01:32 PM
How 'bout a 50 f1.8

+

Tamron 28-75 f2.8 (or 17-50 f2.8)
OR
Sigma 24-70 f2.8
OR
Canon 28-105 f3.5-4.5 (Just don't buy Andy's :D )

And, ignore Rhys, go ahead and use your Kit lens. I did for my first wedding and the clients never knew the difference...

I like what Jamie has suggested here. . . A nice low light lens thats real cheap add the Tamron 28-75. . . and I think you've got a great kit going.


OR
Canon 28-105 f3.5-4.5 (Just don't buy Andy's :D )


Come'on nah, its real cheap! :D LOL I'll even through in an Original "spacey stacey" Garbage Pail Kids trading card!;)

greg79
08-24-2006, 05:18 PM
I would go with the 17-85mm 4.0-5.6 ef-s is usm. It is a huge improvement from the kit lens (for your comparison) and also a great improvement from a 24-85mm ef 3.5-4.5 (the lens it replaced in my bag). I have this lens and I love it. The IS makes a big difference, I don't see myself buying another lens without it. Don't be scared away by the higher f-stops, the IS will let you get more light in while keeping out the blur. You'll do great on the wedding, especially since no ones paying you... no pressure. Definitely get a flash diffuser like that other guy said, 3 choices are omnibounce, lumiquest 80-20, and gary fongs lightsphere II, never heard of that thing the previous guy mentioned though.

cdifoto
08-24-2006, 05:23 PM
I would go with the 17-85mm 4.0-5.6 ef-s is usm. It is a huge improvement from the kit lens (for your comparison) and also a great improvement from a 24-85mm ef 3.5-4.5 (the lens it replaced in my bag). I have this lens and I love it. The IS makes a big difference, I don't see myself buying another lens without it. Don't be scared away by the higher f-stops, the IS will let you get more light in while keeping out the blur.

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You'll do great on the wedding, especially since no ones paying you... no pressure. Definitely get a flash diffuser like that other guy said, 3 choices are omniboounce, lumiuest 80-20, and gary fongs lightsphere II, never heard of that thing he mentioned though.

lundrog
08-24-2006, 06:25 PM
More additional Info:

I also have a spare 1gb flash card, and a extra battery. For camera backup I have my Canon G5 plus four batteries and a 1 GB flash card.

I have shot around 1000 pictures since I have gotten the camera and have spent most of my time in P but fettled a little in each.

The wedding this weekend I am not the primary person taking photos. I hope to use the time to learn how my camera takes pictures in a church.

Since my current lens is 18-55 would I be better off getting an 85mm than the 50 mm?

I just found out I was doing the primary picture taking at the second wedding two nights ago and I plan on meeting with them and getting more detail soon. I do know however that they want to do most of the pictures outdoors.

forno
08-24-2006, 06:28 PM
Try and have a play with Av and different depths of view, good way to bring the subject out in the foreground

greg79
08-24-2006, 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg79
I would go with the 17-85mm 4.0-5.6 ef-s is usm. It is a huge improvement from the kit lens (for your comparison) and also a great improvement from a 24-85mm ef 3.5-4.5 (the lens it replaced in my bag). I have this lens and I love it. The IS makes a big difference, I don't see myself buying another lens without it. Don't be scared away by the higher f-stops, the IS will let you get more light in while keeping out the blur.


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I dont care what this guy says. if your budget is around 500, the 17-85 IS is the best lens for you. I have a friend that does many weddings and this is his primary lens. I was skeptical at first when he told me to get it because I thought I could get same or better results for cheaper but I learned the hard way. 24-85 not close, 28-105 not close. look at reviews around the net and you won't find too many negatives on this one if any at all.

If your at a wedding, your going to need to get wide for group shots, so the prime lenses don't sound like a good idea to me. But... if you decide to go prime, since your using a decent flash, you already have the 50mm focal length in your kit lens, so I would say to go with the 85mm. But changing lenses will get on your nerves, and you may miss some shots in the middle of a change. seriuosly consider the 17-85, i promise you wont be disappointed.

cdifoto
08-24-2006, 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg79
I would go with the 17-85mm 4.0-5.6 ef-s is usm. It is a huge improvement from the kit lens (for your comparison) and also a great improvement from a 24-85mm ef 3.5-4.5 (the lens it replaced in my bag). I have this lens and I love it. The IS makes a big difference, I don't see myself buying another lens without it. Don't be scared away by the higher f-stops, the IS will let you get more light in while keeping out the blur.


All of the above is false.
[QUOTE=cdi-buy.com]All of the above is false.


I dont care what this guy says. if your budget is around 500, the 17-85 IS is the best lens for you. I have a friend that does many weddings and this is his primary lens. I was skeptical at first when he told me to get it because I thought I could get same or better results for cheaper but I learned the hard way. 24-85 not close, 28-105 not close. look at reviews around the net and you won't find too many negatives on this one if any at all.

If your at a wedding, your going to need to get wide for group shots, so the prime lenses don't sound like a good idea to me. But... if you decide to go prime, since your using a decent flash, you already have the 50mm focal length in your kit lens, so I would say to go with the 85mm. But changing lenses will get on your nerves, and you may miss some shots in the middle of a change. seriuosly consider the 17-85, i promise you wont be disappointed.


It's optically no better than the kit lens, IS or not. $500 can be better spent elsewhere.

jamison55
08-24-2006, 06:52 PM
I know you're enamoured with the lens, Greg, and I'm glad it's working out for you, but the 17-85 lasted exactly one wedding in my bag. The IS is nice for stationary objects, but people rarely stand still at weddings. And the IQ from the lens was on par with that of the 18-55 kit lens I owned. At $500 I'd never recommend this lens. The f2.8 zooms from Tamron are far superior (even with the issues I've had with them at weddings).

The 85 f1.8 is a fantastic lens, and great in a dark church, but with a $500 budget, I'd probably stick with the suggestions I made earlier...

24Peter
08-24-2006, 06:53 PM
Definitely get a flash diffuser like that other guy said...
I guess I'm now "that other guy". Nothing like being a nobody... :(

cdifoto
08-24-2006, 06:55 PM
I guess I'm now "that other guy". Nothing like being a nobody... :(

Aww Pete you've always been "that other guy" to me! Hell you're practically family! :eek: :D :p

24Peter
08-24-2006, 06:59 PM
Aww Pete you've always been "that other guy" to me! Hell you're practically family! :eek: :D :p
Thanks Don. :eek: But I'm asking for a divorce! J/K :) (But I will take 1/2 your camera gear. :D )

cdifoto
08-24-2006, 07:01 PM
Thanks Don. :eek: But I'm asking for a divorce! J/K :) (But I will take 1/2 your camera gear. :D )


Screw that. You get the house...and the mortgage. :rolleyes:

cwphoto
08-24-2006, 07:06 PM
Is the flash diffuser really necessary?

Is the 17-85 IS really that bad?

cdifoto
08-24-2006, 07:10 PM
Is the flash diffuser really necessary?

Is the 17-85 IS really that bad?


Some sort of diffuser helps. You can get by without though. The 17-85 isn't unusable, IMO...it's just not worth buying to replace the 18-55 if you already have it, and if you don't, the money can be better spent elsewhere...again, IMO.

24Peter
08-24-2006, 07:10 PM
Is the flash diffuser really necessary?
Well you'd know better than anyone you wedding dude you, but I would imagine if there's nothing to bounce your flash off it would probably help. :confused: Perhaps your real question is, "Is a flash really necessary?" ;)

Is the 17-85 IS really that bad?
Yes. :D

ktixx
08-24-2006, 07:46 PM
I would suggest spending some decent time (well before the wedding) with that flash of yours. Learn how to use it, how to bounce it, what settings work best. Weddings can be stressfull because the ceremony will never stop for you. Last wedding I did I didn't use any diffuser except the one on my EX580 - I turned up the flash power a little and bounced off the church celing (very high celing) but the pictures came out nice.
Another suggestion - take at LEAST 8 AA batteries (12 is even better), your flash will eat them up and you need the fastest recycle time possible during a wedding.
Also take a look at the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 - I have this and it is nice, the extra 4mm over the Tamron 28-75 is usefull. Also, I am not sure about the quality, but take a look at the sigma 18-50 f/2.8, the wide(r) focal range on this lens will come in handy.
Good Luck
Ken

JJinStLouis
08-25-2006, 08:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg79
I dont care what this guy says. if your budget is around 500, the 17-85 IS is the best lens for you. I have a friend that does many weddings and this is his primary lens. I was skeptical at first when he told me to get it because I thought I could get same or better results for cheaper but I learned the hard way. 24-85 not close, 28-105 not close. look at reviews around the net and you won't find too many negatives on this one if any at all.

If your at a wedding, your going to need to get wide for group shots, so the prime lenses don't sound like a good idea to me. But... if you decide to go prime, since your using a decent flash, you already have the 50mm focal length in your kit lens, so I would say to go with the 85mm. But changing lenses will get on your nerves, and you may miss some shots in the middle of a change. seriuosly consider the 17-85, i promise you wont be disappointed.
Holly crap, Greg do you work for ExpressCamera by chance?????

greg79
08-25-2006, 02:47 PM
you guys are great. I just shared my opinion about a lens. Now everyone gets on my case. I got an idea for lundrog, I think you should try another forum where people are actually trying to focus on helping you instead of bashing others. I guess the "other guy" comment about his diffuser was close to bashing, so maybe I'm a litle guilty also. Thanks everyone for making me feel right at home here at dcrp.

cwphoto
08-27-2006, 04:10 AM
Well you'd know better than anyone you wedding dude you, but I would imagine if there's nothing to bounce your flash off it would probably help. :confused: Perhaps your real question is, "Is a flash really necessary?" ;)


Yes. :D


Yeah, I've never really bothered with them - but then I'm not that fussed with flash either so my opinion is prolly next to worthless.:o

cwphoto
08-27-2006, 04:18 AM
you guys are great. I just shared my opinion about a lens. Now everyone gets on my case. I got an idea for lundrog, I think you should try another forum where people are actually trying to focus on helping you instead of bashing others. I guess the "other guy" comment about his diffuser was close to bashing, so maybe I'm a litle guilty also. Thanks everyone for making me feel right at home here at dcrp.

Greg please chill a little - the others just disagreed with your observation/recommendation, no big deal and they put it across without any animosity (at least the way I read it).

I've never used the 17-85 IS so I can't comment either way. I'm actually quite interested in more of this debate as my parents are quite keen on this one and I'd like to give them an objective assessment.:)

lundrog
08-28-2006, 05:16 AM
Hi, I shot some photos this weekend using my Digital Rebel XT, with my Kit lens. It was my first time shooting any wedding photo’s using this camera.

I found out that once the wedding started this weekend I couldn’t use a flash and I didn’t have room for a tripod, so I shot in program mode with no flash and tried to lean on something as much as I could.

The shots didn’t turn out, in part I believe because my lens is so slow, I didn’t have time to mess with shutter speed, and I did have it on ISO 100. I had wanted to see how my lens would perform under these conditions.

Basically, are there manual settings that I could have changed that would have made a huge difference here? If bumped up the ISO speed would it made a difference in most of these photos? Or is the kit lens jus that slow under low light? As I have stated earlier I am still learning the camera and most of the books I have do not have much information on shooting with low light.

I got some good pictures with my flash and outdoors just not in the church/reception with no flash.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000

On the link I have downscaled a Jpeg and also included a CR2 raw for option download if you wanted to see the Shooting information for each picture. You might want to look at the raw to really see the picture. You’ll have to put up with my 256K upload 


Thanks again.

cwphoto
08-28-2006, 05:59 AM
Hi, I shot some photos this weekend using my Digital Rebel XT, with my Kit lens. It was my first time shooting any wedding photo’s using this camera.

I found out that once the wedding started this weekend I couldn’t use a flash and I didn’t have room for a tripod, so I shot in program mode with no flash and tried to lean on something as much as I could.

The shots didn’t turn out, in part I believe because my lens is so slow, I didn’t have time to mess with shutter speed, and I did have it on ISO 100. I had wanted to see how my lens would perform under these conditions.

Basically, are there manual settings that I could have changed that would have made a huge difference here? If bumped up the ISO speed would it made a difference in most of these photos? Or is the kit lens jus that slow under low light? As I have stated earlier I am still learning the camera and most of the books I have do not have much information on shooting with low light.

I got some good pictures with my flash and outdoors just not in the church/reception with no flash.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000

On the link I have downscaled a Jpeg and also included a CR2 raw for option download if you wanted to see the Shooting information for each picture. You might want to look at the raw to really see the picture. You’ll have to put up with my 256K upload 


Thanks again.

I don't have the bandwidth to download your RAW files, but Program mode would have been fine as long as you adjusted your ISO to at least 800 from what I can see.

ISO 100 is really only for outside shots or indoors if both you and your subject are motionless (or you have a fast enough lens like a new 50 L ;) ).

lundrog
08-28-2006, 06:11 AM
So you believe that the ISO was the big down fall.

I will try to take some shots in low light and compaire them.

I just didn't have time to mess around while taking the pictures.

and there were two other Pro's taking photo's there was well, so i had no worries.

cwphoto
08-28-2006, 06:14 AM
Yeah 100 ISO inside like that is a big compromise. What were the typical shutter-speeds you were getting? That will tell me how much EV for which to adjust the ISO next time - 800 was just an educated guess.

lundrog
08-28-2006, 06:40 AM
I think the RAW files say. Let me know if I need to look them up.

cwphoto
08-28-2006, 06:43 AM
I think the RAW files say. Let me know if I need to look them up.

I'm sure they do - but I'm not downloading an 8MB file just to have a look!:p

Still on dial-up here.:(

BonjiB
08-28-2006, 09:02 AM
Has nobody suggested the best wedding lens ever? The Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di-II LD Aspherical [IF] SP AF. *takes a breath.* It can be had for 440 and it's optically (in my opinion with my tests) up to par with canon L glass. It's definately my next lens. With crop factor it functions like a 28-80 (this isn't what you guys were talking about was it?) It's a very solid lens and with a constant f/2.8 and a rebel xt there isn't much light you can't shoot in. Use a flash if you must but definately bounce it. If you want to spend some more money aside from that you might think about the canon 85mm f/1.8L to go along with it (around 450.) If you aren't used to prime though i wouldn't use a wedding to learn how. You might consider sigma's 70-200 f/2.8 ex to go along with it however that would put you over budget as it's a 750 dollar lens. Those two lenses are my next combo. Between the two they cover almost all usable focal lengths for wedding photography and are both 2.8 constant and provide excellent results even wide open. I'm sure i'll get a 10-20 eventually but that's down the road too far for me to think about now and isn't used all THAT much in wedding photography. Yes i know someone will come on here and tell me how much they use their 10mm at weddings but for me, i just don't see it being very practical for the most part. So yeah, buy a tammy 17-50mm f/2.8. Good luck with your purchase.

cwphoto
08-28-2006, 09:07 AM
you might think about the canon 85mm f/1.8L to go along with it (around 450.).

An L lens for 450 bucks? Lemme at it!:D

cwphoto
08-28-2006, 09:10 AM
Has nobody suggested the best wedding lens ever? The Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di-II LD Aspherical [IF] SP AF. *takes a breath.* It can be had for 440 and it's optically (in my opinion with my tests) up to par with canon L glass.

Sounds good, but the best? I dunno about that.:confused:

BonjiB
08-28-2006, 12:44 PM
Sounds good, but the best? I dunno about that.:confused:

Let me rephrase. Best in it's price bracket. He mentioned he wanted to stay under a grand and under 500 if possible. I'm giving suggestions. :D :) :o Oh and my bad about the L part.

lundrog
08-29-2006, 08:00 PM
I ordered the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II lens today from Onecall.com.

I think it will be a good lens, now I need to study up and practice some typical outdoor wedding poses.

Anyone know any sites / posts with examples?

After talking to the couple, I found out I had the wedding date wrong, it is on Sep 8th.

forno
08-29-2006, 08:06 PM
You could have a look here at the composition and framing etc, should be able to pick up 1, OK 2 pointers:p :D

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23195

lundrog
09-19-2006, 06:19 AM
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1348.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1315.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1266.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1240.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1232.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1207.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IIMG_1112.jpg

These are from the 2nd wedding.


Let me know what you think.

Thanks

cdifoto
09-19-2006, 06:36 AM
You could have a look here at the composition and framing etc, should be able to pick up 1, OK 2 pointers:p :D

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23195

lmao I'm not one to learn from forno. :eek:

JMWallace
09-19-2006, 08:05 AM
lundrog, haven't been able to pull up your images. Are they stored on your home computer? Are you shutting it off??

coldrain
09-19-2006, 09:52 AM
The 17-=50 f2.8 is a good lens for its class, but not near "L" (well, most L's) BonjiB. And its focussing (especially on an XT with lower light conditions) can be pretty inaccurate. So, I would not recommend it as a wedding lens, especially not the best one.

coldrain
09-19-2006, 09:57 AM
lundrog, haven't been able to pull up your images. Are they stored on your home computer? Are you shutting it off??

They load fine for me, JM... Maybe you are right and the machine was not up when you tried.

lundrog
09-19-2006, 04:26 PM
lundrog, haven't been able to pull up your images. Are they stored on your home computer? Are you shutting it off??

I am running them off of my home webserver, possible that the service was down or somthing, if the issiue still happens pm and I will work with you to get them working, since I want it to work for everyone. Plus I am a IT geek.

Thanks

lundrog
09-19-2006, 04:43 PM
They load fine for me, JM... Maybe you are right and the machine was not up when you tried.

I would love to learn what I need to do better on those shots, any feedback would be great.


Thanks

JMWallace
09-19-2006, 09:48 PM
I am running them off of my home webserver, possible that the service was down or somthing, if the issiue still happens pm and I will work with you to get them working, since I want it to work for everyone. Plus I am a IT geek.

Working fine from my home computer. For some reason, maybe my work computer isn't allowing me in. Anyway, got em!

U may be an IT geek, but your re-inventing the wheel. The best thing I did when I got into photography was get a Smugmug account. Uploads easy, looks nice, easy to organize, easy to link to forum, etc. AND if your gonna get into this wedding stuff, you can set up private, nice looking, password protected galleries for your bride/groom etc. I just upgraded to the Pro so I can choose how much to charge for my shots. (still trying to work out what would be considered "reasonable".)

Anyway, if your intersted in a coupon, PM me.

lundrog
09-19-2006, 10:00 PM
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1348.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1315.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1266.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1240.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1232.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1207.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IIMG_1112.jpg

These are from the 2nd wedding.


Let me know what you think.

Thanks


http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1311.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1200.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1165.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1129.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1099.jpg

A few more

Thanks

adam75south
09-20-2006, 12:05 AM
well i'm a little late, but i was gonna tell you to remember to set your white balance. it can be the difference between looking professional and looking amateur.

so what lens did you use anyway? i kinda skipped to the end so if you already said then...well....sorry.

p.s. the 24-70 f/2.8L is my favorite lens and i would never think of using another to shoot a wedding...cept MAYBE the 50 1.4 if you had absolutely no flash.

some guy
09-20-2006, 12:12 AM
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1311.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1200.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1165.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1129.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1099.jpg

A few more

Thanks

barring in mind i didn't bother going through the entire thread, so I shall comment on the pix you have included. First off, a good effort overall. I know it's your first time. So in time, u'll learn to capture the moments.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1311.jpg

chairts, vents, flowery frills are a bit distracting. The fingers! Tighten up the fingers.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1200.jpg

some fill flash would help. the faces are really lost in the deep shadows. are they suppose to be looking at you or at another photographer? seems the latter to me. Otherwise a good composition.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1165.jpg

interesting shot, the marble bench blends into the grey bricks resulting as if the B&G are levitating. Funky! Her skirt is a bit overblown. It would be nice if they relax a little.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1129.jpg

crop out the top corner edges. too bad some of the folks weren't smilling

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1099.jpg
a good hot unfortunately blemished by the flash reflection. Perhaps you can bounce it off the ceiling or side wall. crop it tight, the glass frame on the right is intruding into this portrait shot. Best shot of showing the happy couple. They look so happy here.

keep it up!

lundrog
09-20-2006, 05:20 AM
barring in mind i didn't bother going through the entire thread, so I shall comment on the pix you have included. First off, a good effort overall. I know it's your first time. So in time, u'll learn to capture the moments.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1311.jpg

chairts, vents, flowery frills are a bit distracting. The fingers! Tighten up the fingers.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1200.jpg

some fill flash would help. the faces are really lost in the deep shadows. are they suppose to be looking at you or at another photographer? seems the latter to me. Otherwise a good composition.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1165.jpg

interesting shot, the marble bench blends into the grey bricks resulting as if the B&G are levitating. Funky! Her skirt is a bit overblown. It would be nice if they relax a little.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1129.jpg

crop out the top corner edges. too bad some of the folks weren't smilling

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1099.jpg
a good hot unfortunately blemished by the flash reflection. Perhaps you can bounce it off the ceiling or side wall. crop it tight, the glass frame on the right is intruding into this portrait shot. Best shot of showing the happy couple. They look so happy here.

keep it up!


Great feedback!

would you be willing to comment on these as well? they where on a different page.

http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1348.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1315.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1266.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1240.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1232.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IMG_1207.jpg
http://r0ger.homedns.org:11000/IIMG_1112.jpg

Thanks so much!