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jeisner
07-24-2006, 04:47 AM
OK this is my 3rd Pentax DSLR (have both the DS and the D) though my GF has claimed ownership of the DS..

This is just a quick review, I will get some shots tomorrow to post (I only just got it tonight)...

- Focus speed about on PAR with the D (so up on the DS).. although my D has CRV3s and the K100D has just Alkaline AA at the moment.. I think with CRV3s the K100D will beat out the D..

- Body does feel a bit cheap reminds me more of the 350D than the DS or D.. (sorry 350d owners, just my impression)..

- SR rocks, got a few good ones of the dog in very low light at 35mm f2.0 ISO 800 and only 1/10

- Awesome 2.5inch screen

- Built in flash seems nice and high and exposes more consistantly unlike previous models IMO..

- Shutter sound like DS not like the D..

- ISO sensitivity in the viewfinder (press OK button to see it)..

- As reported SR works fine even with old manual lenses.

rumplestiltskin
07-31-2006, 09:32 PM
"SR"? Sorry; not familiar with the acronym.

I'm curious about manual metering and how one would meter with one of the older (K mount for 35mm) lenses. Wondering if it requires something like a stop-down metering procedure or if it's more like a "match-up-the-needles" and shoot like the old "K" or a Minolta SRT series (or Nikon F, etc.).

Appreciate whatever advice and comments you might have.

Thank you

Barry

pas49ras
07-31-2006, 10:30 PM
"SR"? Sorry; not familiar with the acronym.


Shake reduction..Pentax's form of Image stablization and a great feature of this camera. I might finally take the plunge and retire my slow focusing Coolpix 8800:)

Rhys
08-01-2006, 09:12 AM
How does is work with longer unstabilised lenses? Do you have to tell the camera the focal length in use?

jeisner
08-01-2006, 03:47 PM
How does is work with longer unstabilised lenses? Do you have to tell the camera the focal length in use?

Works fine with longer lenses, infact very well with my 300/4.5, gives about 3 stops...

For post M series (fully manual) lenses it picks up the focal length from the lens.. For old M series lenses when you switch on SR it asks you the focal length of the lens... I love how pentax yet again maintains backwards compatability..

jeisner
08-01-2006, 03:50 PM
I'm curious about manual metering and how one would meter with one of the older (K mount for 35mm) lenses. Wondering if it requires something like a stop-down metering procedure

Yes with old M series lenses you press the meter button and it stops down takes a reading and stops up again.. A bit like quickly switching on and off the DOF preview... All done without looking away from the viewfinder..

Rhys
08-01-2006, 03:59 PM
Is photo quality much improved? It's nice in a way that they've settled on 6mp as being "it" for dSLRs but in a way it'd be nice to see larger sensors too.

I don't reckon most pros need more than 6mp as that'll do just fine for wedding portraits etc where the normal size is up to 10x8 etc.

It strikes me the cheapest way to get bigger than 10x8 photos (for the rare occasions they'll be needed) is with an elderly medium format camera.

Newspapers (with their low-quality print) seem very happy with 2 and 3 megapixels.

gfmucci
08-03-2006, 07:27 PM
I just started noticing the great feature set of this camera.:) I haven't seen any reviews yet on the boards (dp, Steve's, etc.) Can you tell me if these two latest models have mirror lock-up? the ist does, right?

I'm comparing to the Olympus E-500, but I'm a bit concerned about the E's dimish optical viewfinder. The E has the mirror lock-up and the mirror vibrator/cleaner gizmo, which I hear is effective. But I would think that between those two features, the mirror lock-up would be the most worthwhile for those shooting in the range of 1/10 to 1/2 second or so, which is where the worst effect from mirror vibration occurs.

And what is the difference between the 100 and 110 - and between the ist, for that matter?

gfmucci
08-03-2006, 07:48 PM
Do you have an impression of how noisy the iso 1600 or 3200 are?

wutske
08-04-2006, 01:53 AM
And what is the difference between the 100 and 110 - and between the ist, for that matter?
Specs side by side @ dpreview (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=pentax_k100d%2Cpentax_k110d%2Cpentax_istd% 2Cpentax_istds%2Cpentax_istdl&show=all)
The reale difference between the 100 and the 110 is that the 100 has SR and the 110 doesn't.

jeisner
08-04-2006, 02:34 AM
Do you have an impression of how noisy the iso 1600 or 3200 are?

this shot was at ISO 1600. It was also just in bright jpeg mode, in natural or RAW you could get better results for sure.. I have also done NO post processing (ie noise reduction on this picture)..

http://k41.pbase.com/o4/79/522179/1/64299736.mbsAcN1Z._IGP0311.jpg

full size here: http://www.pbase.com/joele/image/64377943/original

Yes it has mirror lock up through the 2 second timer just like the Pentax *ist models.. It certainly has a better viewfinder than the Oly, better high ISO and the obvious advantage of SR..

MatH
08-04-2006, 02:48 AM
It appears to me that in-camera jpeg noise has improved. Good for Pentax and it's users. It looks like I'm stuck with Pentax for times to come ;)

gfmucci
08-04-2006, 06:45 AM
It just dawned on me that while mirror lock-up is a great feature on its own, with the SR "on" the lock-up wouldn't be as necessary, would it? Is there any shooting situation where it would be advantageous to have the SR "off"?

What is the advantage to TTL flash vs. non-TTL? What difference does that make?

jeisner
08-04-2006, 07:51 AM
It just dawned on me that while mirror lock-up is a great feature on its own, with the SR "on" the lock-up wouldn't be as necessary, would it? Is there any shooting situation where it would be advantageous to have the SR "off"?

When on a tripod the manual recommends turning SR off and using mirror lockup..


What is the advantage to TTL flash vs. non-TTL? What difference does that make?

The K100d supports P-TTL flashes only, which is the latest format, supposed to be most accurate.. I tend not to use flashes much so can't really comment on that... I prefer bright lenses and SR than flashes..

Leech
08-15-2006, 03:33 AM
Hello.

How many pictures can you take in a row, in which resolution ?


Thanks

swgod98
08-16-2006, 10:55 AM
How many pictures can you take in a row, in which resolution ?

The K100D can take 5 jpgs in a row, or 3 raw images in a row, before it craps out and the framerate becomes dismal. It's actually what I consider one of the K100D's (very few) weak points. I think it's the worst burst mode of any dSLR actually...

Rhys
08-16-2006, 11:08 AM
How is focussing accuracy compared to the *Ist DL?

I tried a DL alongside an XT and a D50 and they both out-performed it (the DL failed to focus).

swgod98
08-16-2006, 04:36 PM
The K100D's focusing system is better than the DL. But, I was only "testing" them in the store. Focus on this (short range), focus on that (long range), etc. Nothing too scientific.

The K100D's motor was noticeably faster. But, the DL focused on everything it was supposed to (but these were not extreme tests).

Rhys
08-16-2006, 06:39 PM
In my 5 minute test, the DL was the only camera that refused to focus on anything.

jeisner
08-17-2006, 04:39 AM
In my 5 minute test, the DL was the only camera that refused to focus on anything.

The K100D locks on much better in really low light situations than any previous Pentax DSLR I have had (D and DS).. Haven't tried a DL though...

Rhys
08-17-2006, 08:15 AM
The K100D locks on much better in really low light situations than any previous Pentax DSLR I have had (D and DS).. Haven't tried a DL though...

Interesting. I tried the DL in Best Buy or was it Circuit City near Charleston and found that while the D50 and XT would focus on the counter opposite me (about 15 feet distance), the DL couldn't focus. It just hunted. So I tried the DL on the store doors some 40 feet away. It still couldn't snap into focus. I'm wondering whether it's bad in store type lighting or whether it was just a duffer. Either way, it wasn't encouraging and the lack of a decent MF screen made the MF option a bit pointless.

eduardofrances
08-18-2006, 09:44 PM
I'm comparing to the Olympus E-500, but I'm a bit concerned about the E's dimish optical viewfinder.

I must say that I had tried my friend's E-500 not only does sports a small viewfinder but also is very dim... If you compare to pentax big bright viewfinder, the pentax is the obvious correct choice, It is nearly impossible to check in the E-500 correct focusing, this renders manual focus almost impossible, au contraire Pentax big viewfinder is a joy to use in MF and AF

Spot focus
08-19-2006, 06:51 PM
Hi jeisner I would be interested to hear how the K100d compares to the DS in continuous shooting mode;) how many fps and the number

jeisner
08-19-2006, 07:16 PM
Hi jeisner I would be interested to hear how the K100d compares to the DS in continuous shooting mode;) how many fps and the number

Actually continuous shooting is slightly worsened...

They both do 2.8 fps, but the buffer on the DS is 8 images and on the K100D it is only 5... This is I think because the K100D is supposed to be the lower end range and the DS was mid.. Apparently there are still two new models to come.. What people call the K10D (available within months) which will be at the DS level (slightly above I think).. And after that the K1D which will be slightly above where the D was.. The K10D and K1D will both be 10mp though..

Its a feature I used once on my DS so to me its no big deal, but others are surely disappointed..

CptOfGondor
08-22-2006, 12:23 AM
LoL the K100D, K10D and K1D

Just like Canon's dSLR naming convention. 350D, 30D, 1D

Thanks for the review Jeisner! that ISO 1600 looks pretty good. you can even make a good 8X10 print with little to no post processing. Nice ME w/ SMC Pentax-A on the bookshelf. Hey, hows the SMC M and SMC A lenses on the K100D. Can you actually manage the MF with the matte screen?

jeisner
08-22-2006, 12:48 AM
Nice ME w/ SMC Pentax-A on the bookshelf.

Yeah its an A 28/2.8... I have a few old film cameras still the ME, P30n and an SFX.. Only the SFX still gets used though, the ME just looks good on the shelf ;-)


Hey, hows the SMC M and SMC A lenses on the K100D.

They work fine.. Work with SR too... Tried the Petax-M 135/3.5 and the camera just asks you what they focal length of the lens is when you first turn it on (must help the SR calculations)...


Can you actually manage the MF with the matte screen?

Yep, no problem.. P.S. It also gives you focus feedback even with the old M lenses (ie beep and red focus confirmation box, when you hit the sweet spot)

colonel
08-23-2006, 03:33 AM
be careful about trying cameras in non-camera specialist stores. Dust on the mirror drives most auto-focus systems to distraction and this often happens due to storage and repeatedly showing customers how to change lense.

Most reviews tend to think that the auto-focus on the Pentax DS is very good, but marginally slower then Canon. The DL never got dinged on focus so despite the loss of a few focus points I can't believe its that bad.

Also, perhaps silly, but make sure no one had set it to AF-C in the menu .......

CptOfGondor
08-24-2006, 08:17 PM
Yeah its an A 28/2.8... I have a few old film cameras still the ME, P30n and an SFX.. Only the SFX still gets used though, the ME just looks good on the shelf ;-)

They work fine.. Work with SR too... Tried the Petax-M 135/3.5 and the camera just asks you what they focal length of the lens is when you first turn it on (must help the SR calculations)...

Yep, no problem.. P.S. It also gives you focus feedback even with the old M lenses (ie beep and red focus confirmation box, when you hit the sweet spot)

Dang, over here in Canada, they selling the K100D with 18-55mm for ~$800 and $949 for the 18-55mm and the 50-200mm. Just hope I can fetch a summer job next year. thats nice, the mf aids. Yea the Pentax 135/3.5 is a beauty.

orchidhound
09-09-2006, 09:38 AM
"SR"? Sorry; not familiar with the acronym.

I'm curious about manual metering and how one would meter with one of the older (K mount for 35mm) lenses. Wondering if it requires something like a stop-down metering procedure or if it's more like a "match-up-the-needles" and shoot like the old "K" or a Minolta SRT series (or Nikon F, etc.).

Appreciate whatever advice and comments you might have.

Thank you

Barry

I've had my K100D for about a month, though I've used it mainly with my A lenses, I did put my K-pancake on it. The first thing I did was change the settings so that I could use it as a manual camera because I shoot a lot of macro. You have to change a setting so you can use the f-stop ring. With the k-pancake shooting in manual mode you can focus wide open, and then when you push the depth-of-field preview, it gives you the meter reading (as numbers with 0.0 being normal exposure). In the P mode (or av or tv) it seems to be choosing the shutter speed for you, like the zx-m, but I haven't really used it much like that. It seems to work fine in all the modes with the k-pancake (which would be the 'normal' lens). The only thing that bothers me is that in the manual mode you have to push dof to get the exposure reading to show. -- colleen