Adapters for the FZ20

[slitman]

I am looking for a 62mm adapter for my new FZ20 and would appreciate feedback on any of the following if you have purchased them for your FZ20:


Pro-Technica - (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43441&item=3851146011&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Phayee - (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43441&item=3850204139&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Pemaraal - PD62 (http://www.b-300.com/fz10ac.html)


I am looking to then put a 62mm UV filter on it and possibly an Adorama Hama hood.

[Jim Last]

I have a Pemaraal PA62 and it fits perfectly, you can fully screw the adaptor into place without any effect on the focusing ring.

I got one that was listed as a second for $22 and can not see anything wrong with it :) Maybe a slight tiny nick on the outer edge but thats it.

The Pro-Technica & Phayee look very similar, priced reasonable. Hopefully someone on this forum can shed some light on these for you.

[genece]

I have the Phayee among others and that Protechnica looks like the same thing.
The Phayee works well and is nice looking, at least in my opinion.

I also have a couple Yoshidas and a Raynox. I think the Phayee is the best combination of looks ,performance and value. JMHO ;)

[slitman]

So no real difference between the Phayee and the Pemaraal then?

What kind of filter did you go with? How about a hood?



I have the Phayee among others and that Protechnica looks like the same thing.
The Phayee works well and is nice looking, at least in my opinion.

I also have a couple Yoshidas and a Raynox. I think the Phayee is the best combination of looks ,performance and value. JMHO ;)

[genece]

I do not have the Pemaraal but of the rest they all give the same results.
I use a 62mm UV filter on the Phayee adapter along with a 72mm collapsible Hoya hood.
I really keep trying to find a better adapter but as I say they are all very similar.
The one I use most of the time is a Yoshida adapter as it was the first available. and I made a homemade hood for it that allows me to use a flip down lens cover. I have never lost a lens cover since I started using them.

I bought another Yoshida adapter for the FZ20 when I got it, I believe the Yoshida is the best looking and the best made but it is expensive.

[pwiles1968]

I do not have the Pemaraal but of the rest they all give the same results.
I use a 62mm UV filter on the Phayee adapter along with a 72mm collapsible Hoya hood.
I really keep trying to find a better adapter but as I say they are all very similar.
The one I use most of the time is a Yoshida adapter as it was the first available. and I made a homemade hood for it that allows me to use a flip down lens cover. I have never lost a lens cover since I started using them.

I bought another Yoshida adapter for the FZ20 when I got it, I believe the Yoshida is the best looking and the best made but it is expensive.

Can you re-attach the front screw ring from the Panasonic to the front of the Phayee when it is attached to the camera? I ask because I have seen some photos of the adapter without its 'hood' in place and it is not very pretty, there are threads showing etc, bit like taking the small ring off the Panasonic and leaving it off UGLY. :eek:

This is the picture I saw Phayee (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=9143475)

[genece]

The Phayee adapter comes in 3 parts one part is a small ring which would just cover the threads in this picture if you wished to do it that way

http://home.austin.rr.com/cptxusa/Phayee-adapter+62mm-filter.jpg

and then there is a small hood remove the small ring and add
The piece on the left

http://home.austin.rr.com/cptxusa/Phayee-adapter-in-two-secti.jpg


Which ends up looking like this

http://home.austin.rr.com/cptxusa/Phayee-adapter.jpg

You get all three pieces for the $22.50

If you get it spend the extra dollar for the leashed lens cap, it is a nice cap.

[pwiles1968]

Do yo have a photo with the ring in place?

is the $10 UV any good.

[slitman]

Anyone have any updates on Pemaraal? I emailed them, but have yet to hear back?

Is the Phayee of better quality?

[Jim Last]

noticed a thread earlier today, can't remember where :confused: but is said that they had emailed Peter and Pameraal and he had found a number of PA62's, and that the new ones where due to be finnished soon, but how soon, I don't know.

[Jim Last]

here is the thread (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2150)

[b.j.c]

Just wondering about getting a PA62. Can anyone tell me how far a filter on the adaptor is from the FZ20 lens, once it extends?

[Jim Last]

Pretty much as close as you can get it without touching :)

[slitman]

Are you thinking of ordering one anytime soon? Last I checked they are still out of stock.

[b.j.c]

Are you thinking of ordering one anytime soon? Last I checked they are still out of stock.

I want to get one pretty soon (before I wreck my lens) but because I am in Australia I will look for one closer to home first I think.

Does anyone know if this b-300.com place is reliable?

[Jim Last]

I'm based in Scotland and ordered one from them on a Monday and it arrived on Friday that week, not too bad as service I think :)

[RobertJ]

Are you thinking of ordering one anytime soon? Last I checked they are still out of stock.

I ordered a PA62 "seconds" Permeraal Adapter at the weekend, and it arrived here in England yesterday, less than a week from order. Paid $22 plus $5 postage - not bad at all, I think.
Also, as said, it was meant to be a "second", but I can't see anything wrong with it at all.
It also feels much more solid and robust than the pana supplied adapter, and looks btetter and more compact when fitted - in my opinion :)

[slitman]

Look at this http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=11033600

Great News!

Now after going to the website, http://www.photosolve.com/main/product/xtendalens/FZ10/index.html, it refers to the Xtend-a-Lens adapter.

However, this is not the same as the PA62 is it?

Also, is the ALUMINUM version of the PA62 better than the plastic which seems to soon be replace with what they are referring to as the Delrin type?

[nooner]

It indicates the adapter will be available tommorrow. :)

[Jim Last]

Look at this http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=11033600

Great News!

Now after going to the website, http://www.photosolve.com/main/product/xtendalens/FZ10/index.html, it refers to the Xtend-a-Lens adapter.

However, this is not the same as the PA62 is it?

Also, is the ALUMINUM version of the PA62 better than the plastic which seems to soon be replace with what they are referring to as the Delrin type?

The PD62 is made from Delrin which is a strong plastic type compound.
The PA62 is made from Aluminum alloy available in anodized black or silver, which is great is you have a silver FZ10, 15 or 20.

I personally like the Aluminium as it feels great when using the camera, solid and well engineered, and with very balanced weight. But as with everything it is down to your pref. :)

[slitman]

So it indicates, "Xtend-a-Lens FZ-10/20 and/or the Pemaraal adapter PA62"...which seems to imply these are two different products, but they are actually the same thing?

Also found the additional reply to the original posting, "Aluminum takes much longer to machine than Delrin (higher labor costs), but Delrin is a much higher priced material (higher material costs). All things being equal, the price comes out the same."

[Jim Last]

There is a Pameraal PA62 listed on eBay
They are also now back in stock at Pameraal (http://www.b-300.com/fz10ac.html)

[slitman]

Sounds great, but I noticed in your eBay listing that you are selling this only for United Kingdom Only.

However, per forum rules, classifieds are not permitted.


There is a Pameraal PA62 listed on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3852792347)
They are also now back in stock at Pameraal (http://www.b-300.com/fz10ac.html)

[slitman]

I agree with you, but given that it is a direct link to an eBay item, it appears to be a classified. You might want to revise your posting to have just Pareaal's website, as I would not like this topic to be locked for the above reason because I am still trying to get feedback on my original posting.

Thanks!


This was not intended as a "clasified", I was simply providing details of where the Pareaal PA62 adaptors can be found :) Also It can be supplied any where world wide.

[Jim Last]

As you can see, the post has been modified to show the only live link out is to the Pameraal website. And if someone should wish to search eBay they may find one there also.

[slitman]

Thanks Jim! :)

Just didn't want to see this posting locked.

As you can see, the post has been modified to show the only live link out is to the Pameraal website. And if someone should wish to search eBay they may find one there also.

[b.j.c]

I ordered a PA62 "seconds" Permeraal Adapter at the weekend

How do you guys order seconds adapters - I just saw normal ones on that site for $32, I think. And was that from b-300.com?

Benjamin :)

[Jim Last]

If Pameraal have stock of any 2nd's they list them on this page (http://www.b-300.com/used.html) within their site. They currently have none listed, and as they have just completed manufacture of the 1st's then I guess it may be a while until they have found any 2nd's to list. You are only talking $10 / £5.50 of difference from a 1st and a 2nd :)

[FZ20knowitall]

I would suggest the Phayee adapter over the Pameraal, which I have. It is a better adapter. It also comes with an extension tube that has a 72mm thread (like the panasonic tube). You can just e-mail Rong Jin (rongjin@phayee.com), the company is in China, but he is great and you will get your adapter in under 2 weeks (coming from China, that ain't bad!). They also make lens caps (62mm & 72mm) that have that string attachment so it hooks onto your camera strap so you don't lose it. BTW the thread at the end of the adapter is 62mm, like the Pameraal. If you guys have a T-CON 1.7 you can screw it in and leave it in your Pameraal and just unscrew the whole thing. Also Raynox makes a 2.2x lens that has a 62mm thread. Just suggestions if you already have the Pameraal.

[slitman]

The odd thing is it seems about 50-50 split on people's view of the filter issue; interesting.

I would suggest the Phayee adapter over the Pameraal, which I have. It is a better adapter. It also comes with an extension tube that has a 72mm thread (like the panasonic tube). You can just e-mail Rong Jin (rongjin@phayee.com), the company is in China, but he is great and you will get your adapter in under 2 weeks (coming from China, that ain't bad!). They also make lens caps (62mm & 72mm) that have that string attachment so it hooks onto your camera strap so you don't lose it. BTW the thread at the end of the adapter is 62mm, like the Pameraal. If you guys have a T-CON 1.7 you can screw it in and leave it in your Pameraal and just unscrew the whole thing. Also Raynox makes a 2.2x lens that has a 62mm thread. Just suggestions if you already have the Pameraal.

[b.j.c]

Does anyone have any images of the pemaraal and/or protechnica adapters fitted to an FZ20 (or FZ10)?

I am a little reluctant to get one because of the xtra length and the different looks (potentially ugly). I suppose it has to be though if I want to protect my lens (I just want to fit a skylight filter).

Benjamin

[Jim Last]

Pic of the FZ with Pameraal adapter - here (http://www.b-300.com/fz10ac.html)
Pictures of the FZ with Phayee adapter - here (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=9143475)
Picture of the FZ with Protechnica adapter look to be none existant on the web, hopefully someone out there will be able to post one soon :)

[Jim Last]

Guess trouble is you would need another camera to photgraph the FZ with adapter :D

[pwiles1968]

Also Raynox makes a 2.2x lens that has a 62mm thread. Just suggestions if you already have the Pameraal.

Does anyone know the model number of this? Any comments on Quality.

OK found it What a monster - Raynox (http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/fz10/index.htm) :D

Any quality comments?

[FZ20knowitall]

It's available at B&H photo for $189:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=Bb8L2Mxg3b!-1540498705?ci=1&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=SearchBar&A=search&Q=*&shs=DCR-2020PRO

If you have a pemaraal adaptor or the phayee (or anything 62mm) this lens screws right in. Raynox suggests you get their adapter which brings it down to a 52mm thread and the lens comes with a step up ring from 52mm to 62mm. A little bass ackwards if you ask me.

[b.j.c]

Pic of the FZ with Pameraal adapter - here (http://www.b-300.com/fz10ac.html)
Pictures of the FZ with Phayee adapter - here (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=9143475)
Picture of the FZ with Protechnica adapter look to be none existant on the web, hopefully someone out there will be able to post one soon :)

Thanks Jim

[eyusuf]

does anyone have experience with raynox adapter for fz20? i found it on ebay..here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74915&item=3857118719&rd=1
thanks for the info.. :)

[Jim Last]

I have used Raynox adaptors in the past and they have always seemed to be well made with good clean threads. They are robust, well finished and a lot lot lighter than Pameraal and Phayee adaptors. I'd say that they probably weight in about the same as the plastic panasonic adaptor, but seem solid enought with a lens attached.

[robbie]

:D Just ordered this one : raynox plp-p20, looks good to me.
Anyone owning this one already? :p

[isis]

I have a paramael adapter and love it. it fits like a glove, looks good and does the job. i found the service to be excellent. i bought a 55 mm adapter and an oly wide angle lense and a polorizer and 1A filters. good luck :) :) :) : that's three smiles for the paramael

[b.j.c]

Hi there people, I've just found a really good price on a 52mm adaptor for my FZ20 (at a shop in Australia).

I think I will buy it, but can anyone tell me of any problems I might have with a 52mm adaptor, as opposed to a 62mm one?

It means filters are cheaper, but what are the negative sides?

[Kyle]

Just bought camera from Circuit City yesteday.
I bought a UV Lense from Ridge Camera today at noon but find now the camera won't fit in my bag and also when using the flash it leaves shadow due to the long Pansonic adapter.
After reading all your postings, I decided to order from Phayee. Boy, their service is great. I ordered it at 6:00 PM Pacific Time. I wanted the lense as well but could not figure out how to order it. I emailed Phayee and was contacted back at 8:30 PM. I told them what I want and I invoice was back at 11:00 PM. This has been my best experience on Ebay to date.
Now I just hope I can use the 62mm and shorten the length on the lense so it will fit my camera bag and won't leave shadow on my Macro shot.

Just a note, the only, and only disappointment on the FZ20 is I can't see the LCD in very low light shooting. I have to either turn to auto to frame and back to manual to set my settings or oepn up apeture and lenghten shutter speed to frame the shot, then set my settings.

[pwiles1968]

The Low aperture is an annoyance to a lot of people and something Panasonic Should Fix IMO.

I believe the Payhee is shorter than the Panasonic included, there is another option - Adapter (http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm) - I have Just ordered one of these now it will not hold a converter or anything heavy you still need a tube adapter for that, but for filters it looks ideal, I will post some info when I have received the adapter and had a play.

[JavaDan]

I have Just ordered one of these now it will not hold a converter or anything heavy you still need a tube adapter for that, but for filters it looks ideal, I will post some info when I have received the adapter and had a play.
Paul - that Coolfix adapter ring is exactly what I've been trying to find. Thanks for the link. I will be very interested in seeing what you think of it after you try it.

--Dan

[johanesrudis]

Hi All,

Sorry if it sounds stupid :o . But, I'm a new comer to photography world. I've just bought my FZ20 2 weeks ago, because of all good references in this web and forum. And I just love this camera.

But, I don't really understand the advantage/importance of using a 62 mm adapter and lens hood, as you guys have been discussing so far. Is it merely about cheaper price of the 62mm filters? What about the output quality if I use 62mm hood and filters, no differences with the 72mm?

Any 'lessons' would be highly appreciated. :p
Thanks in advance.
-Johanes-

[pixelator]

The Low aperture is an annoyance to a lot of people and something Panasonic Should Fix IMO.

I believe the Payhee is shorter than the Panasonic included, there is another option - Adapter (http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm) - I have Just ordered one of these now it will not hold a converter or anything heavy you still need a tube adapter for that, but for filters it looks ideal, I will post some info when I have received the adapter and had a play.

I think that this adapter is great.

[suec]

The Low aperture is an annoyance to a lot of people and something Panasonic Should Fix IMO.

I believe the Payhee is shorter than the Panasonic included, there is another option - Adapter (http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm) - I have Just ordered one of these now it will not hold a converter or anything heavy you still need a tube adapter for that, but for filters it looks ideal, I will post some info when I have received the adapter and had a play.


Does anyone know if this step-down ring from B&H is the same thing?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=114827&is=REG
I already have a 55mm UV and CPL for my film camera, so would like to NOT have to buy any more at this time.

[pixelator]

You only can use this ring with the original Panasonic Hood, because it is designed to change the 72 mm atachment to 62 mm.

[suec]

Does that mean the adapter won't fit on the lens itself, but has to go on the hood? (I don't have the camera yet, so I can't look at it myself and see.)

[pixelator]

The lens have not atachment for filters.

[sgoldste01]

I'm trying to decide between the 55mm versions of the Pemaraal and Yoshida adapters. I really like the looks of the Yoshida because of how it tapers (looks less like an after-market product), but I don't know if I'm willing to pay an extra $30 for cosmetics....

[pwiles1968]

The Low aperture is an annoyance to a lot of people and something Panasonic Should Fix IMO.

I believe the Payhee is shorter than the Panasonic included, there is another option - Adapter (http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm) - I have Just ordered one of these now it will not hold a converter or anything heavy you still need a tube adapter for that, but for filters it looks ideal, I will post some info when I have received the adapter and had a play.

Recieved the adapter ring today it is exactly what I was looking for, it basically puts threads on the barrel of the FZ20, it is only strong enough for filters but for a skylight and a Polarizer or close up lens - Perfect :D Just what I have been after, I also ordered a tethered cap, with the adapter, and a UV in place the lens is level with the end of the body when retracted, the cap makes it slightly longer, but it still fits in my OpTec D-Offset no problems, I am very happy and would recommend it ;) to anyone only interested in mounting filters.

[MacBook]

Recieved the adapter ring today it is exactly what I was looking for, it basically puts threads on the barrel of the FZ20, it is only strong enough for filters but for a skylight and a Polarizer or close up lens - Perfect :D Just what I have been after, I also ordered a tethered cap, with the adapter, and a UV in place the lens is level with the end of the body when retracted, the cap makes it slightly longer, but it still fits in my OpTec D-Offset no problems, I am very happy and would recommend it ;) to anyone only interested in mounting filters.

What size filter did you order -- a 55mm or 52mm? I just ordered the FZ15 and then the Nextphoto adapter but did not see any tethered cap or filters on the Nextphoto site. I still need to order a UV filter and cap.

[sgoldste01]

How do you guys order seconds adapters - I just saw normal ones on that site for $32, I think. And was that from b-300.com?

Benjamin :)

The b-300.com site appears to be down. I was going to order a Pameraal adapter last night, but couldn't. It's still down this morning.

Looks like someone forgot to pay his web hosting bill.... :rolleyes:

I'll keep checking, as I'd like to order one of the hood adapters (PA55H, if I'm remembering the model correctly). Has anyone purchased one of the Pameraal adapters with the integrated hood? Is it a nice product? Does it compare favorably to the Phayee which also offers the hood functionality?

[IzzNouGud]

Recieved the adapter ring today it is exactly what I was looking for, it basically puts threads on the barrel of the FZ20, it is only strong enough for filters but for a skylight and a Polarizer or close up lens - Perfect :D Just what I have been after, I also ordered a tethered cap, with the adapter, and a UV in place the lens is level with the end of the body when retracted, the cap makes it slightly longer, but it still fits in my OpTec D-Offset no problems, I am very happy and would recommend it ;) to anyone only interested in mounting filters.


How many filters can you put on that adapter at the same time? A UV and a Polarizer, at least?
As I understand from the pictures on the coolpix link, with their adapter on the FZ20, it is still possible to attach the hood and adapter suplied with the camera, right?

Thanx

[wmussatto]

Hi there people, I've just found a really good price on a 52mm adaptor for my FZ20 (at a shop in Australia).

I think I will buy it, but can anyone tell me of any problems I might have with a 52mm adaptor, as opposed to a 62mm one?

It means filters are cheaper, but what are the negative sides?
I have the raynox adapter. It works well for telephoto and macro. For both macro and general filters it will save money (smalller glass == less cost). I have had problems with wide angle len's but these were for a video camera and seemed to have a smaller exit size than the 52mm so I don't think its an adapter issue. I was able to use a left over 2x Sony adapter (37mm adapter so I had a step down ring) but had to go to 6x, but that's the limit of the Panasonic 1.5x adapter. Again, not an issue of the 52mm raynox 62->52mm adapter but the lens attached to it. Good glass and I don't use it unless I need the extra power and if I need the extra power, I'm already at x12 on the basic lens. Hope this helps some.

[shodge]

I have decided to purchase the Raynox RT5264P adaptor for my FZ15 along with a 52mm UV filter & polarizer, but I am confused about the size of rubber collapsible hood I should get. Should I be using a step-up ring and getting a larger hood (i.e. 72mm) or can I purchase a 52mm rubber hood?

[tudacee]

As a new digital camera person...what would be the reason for buying adapters? I know it may be a silly question, but curious to know if it's something I will need to consider later on down the line.
thanks.
dee :o

[bryanbendo]

As a new digital camera person...what would be the reason for buying adapters? I know it may be a silly question, but curious to know if it's something I will need to consider later on down the line.
thanks.
dee :o

well the main reason i am purchasing a adapter is so that i can attach various lenses to it.

[magicrainbow]

As a new digital camera person...what would be the reason for buying adapters? I know it may be a silly question, but curious to know if it's something I will need to consider later on down the line.
thanks.
dee :o

IMO,
2 uses:
1. for protecting the lens, especially valuable for those who like outdoor shooting
2. for attaching filter, wide/telconverter

[pwiles1968]

What size filter did you order -- a 55mm or 52mm? I just ordered the FZ15 and then the Nextphoto adapter but did not see any tethered cap or filters on the Nextphoto site. I still need to order a UV filter and cap.

Sorry for the delay Did not see this earlier, I purchased the 52/58mm version and ordered 58mm filters elsewhere, the teathered cap was in the Nikon area and Bernie sorted it from there.

[pwiles1968]

How many filters can you put on that adapter at the same time? A UV and a Polarizer, at least?
As I understand from the pictures on the coolpix link, with their adapter on the FZ20, it is still possible to attach the hood and adapter suplied with the camera, right?

Thanx

Once again sorry for the delay, I have had 4 filters so far just experimenting but I regulaly use it with 2 - the UV which lives on there and a Diopter for close up work, both 58mm, and yes you can use the supplied hood I also use this regulaly when shooting outdoors.

[IzzNouGud]

thanx pwiles1968

I think I will ordering that adaptor very soon.

[sgoldste01]

I just got my Pemaraal PA55H with the integrated hood. I haven't heard anyone here discuss the Pemaraal hood adapters, so I thought some folks might like to know that it's excellent! First rate design. Same size as the non-hooded adapter. Very solid, and you don't have to remove the lens filter to remove/install the hood section. No interference with the FZ20 focus ring.

5-star rating!

[denisdev]

Hi to all. Just joined this forum this week, am a new FZ20 owner of 10 days now, and a real novice in photography. So please keep that in mind as you read on and take it easy on me. :o

The FZ20 is my first "real camera", previously had a Kodak polaroid camera and an HP C-200 (which I still have), real simple point and shoot stuff with no frills. My recent interest in photography came about as a result of learning what creative things can be done with software in the way of restoring old photos, special effects, stitching to make panoramic views, combining 2 or more photos into one, etc., and making decent photos out of what are not so decent photos out of the camera.

I have just read through all the above postings and find myself wondering what is the best option with regards to purchasing an adapter. My interest right now is primarily to protect my camera lens, and maybe also to purchase a linear polarizer lens. I realize selection is a matter of preference with the individual, but when you don't know anything about photography or about the advantages and disadvantages of the choices you make with regard to equipment, some help from those with experience is greatly appreciated. Let me summarize my impressions from what I have read in the above postings and from following some of the links provided, and then ask a few questions:

Impressions:

1. The closer that filter lens and any attached converter lens are to the FZ20 lens, the better. This helps to maximize the useable zoom range and reduce/eliminate vignetting .

2. It seems that the Phayee and Permaraal adapters are similar, have the shortest length of the tube adapters and bring any attached filter lens or converter lens closer to the FZ20 lens than any other of the tube adapters. I was unable to determine from any postings in this forum or from the Raynox website what the length of that adapter is or how close attachment lenses are to the FZ20 lens. I also wonder the same about the Yoshida adapter, which was spoken of highly somewhere in this forum.

3. I would assume that the Nextphoto snap-on adapter would bring any attached filter lens closer to the FZ20 lens than any of the tube adapters, but it cannot be used to attach tele-converter or wide-angle converter lenses.

4. Hoods are available with the Permaraal and Phayee adapters which I understand are used in sunny conditions to reduce/eliminate reflections from the sun. I don't remember reading about available hoods with any of the other tube adapters. I got the impression that hoods are not available, or - at best - hard to find for the Raynox and Yoshida tube adapters.

5. The supplied FZ20 adapter and hood can be used with the Nextphoto snap-on adapter to reduce/eliminate reflections from the sun.

Questions:

1. First, I refer you to comparisons of the FZ20 adapter with the Permaraal PD62 adapter at Click here (http://www.pemaraal.com/compare5.html#FZ10 Teleconverters) .

From the comparisons shown:
a. It would seem that, with the longer FZ20 supplied adapter, the smaller the attached lens is, the more problems you have with vignetting and limited useable zoom range. It also occurs to some extent with the Permaraal PD62 as you step down with adapter rings from 62 to 58, 55 and 52mm, but not anywhere near what you experience with the longer FZ20 supplied adapter. Does this mean that problems would be experienced with the smaller Raynox 52mm adapter mentioned in the postings?
b. Could one expect there to be no problems with the Nextphoto snap-on adapter (with only filters attached) because it brings the attached lenses closer to the FZ20 lens than any of the tube adapters?
c. I would assume that similar results would be experienced if one chose the Phayee adapter over the Permaraal adapter. Is that correct?
d. Is it safe to assume that, when using a tube adapter, the smaller you step-down the thread size of the lens attachments, the more vignetting and limited useable zoom range you experience?

2. If one chose the Nextphoto snap-on adapter over the tube adapters, could one expect that there would be no vignetting problems or limited useable zoom range when the FZ20 supplied adapter and hood are attached (due to the fact that the FZ20 adapter opening is not stepped down with a ring adapter from 72mm to a smaller thread size)?

3. Right now, I am somewhat torn between buying the Permaraal PA62H Adapter (with hood) and just going with the Nextphoto snap-on adapter for now. But, I am still open to other options if they make more sense. Some Questions about the Nextphoto snap-on adapter:
a. Once you snap it on, can you get it back off? How easy or hard is that to do? Is is possible to harm the FZ20 optics in any way while trying to get the snap-on adapter off?
b. Will the snap-on adapter cause a load on the barrel extension motor that could eventually result in damaging the motor or affecting the balance of the barrel or the optics of the FZ20 lens in any way?

4. I like the fact that the Raynox has the adapter, MC filter, linear polarizer filter and lens cap in one bundle. But, I worry about the 52mm stepdown causing problems with vignetting and limiting useable zoom range. Are my fears unjustified? If so, how so? Also, what do you do about using a hood with the Raynox adapter on sunny days?

5. I don’t like the fact that - except for the Raynox - you don’t seem to be able to find everything you need at one place (and even Raynox doesn't seem to have a hood for its adapter). If I choose the Permaraal PA62H, the MC filter lens is not currently available, and the polarizer that they have (when it is available) is a circular, not linear polarizer. I read somewhere on this forum ( and I think another forum) that a linear polarizer should be used with digital cameras, and that the circular polarizer is for film. Is that correct? Why can’t you get everything in one place, and why can’t you just walk into a local camera store in your home town and pick up something that will work or can be adapted to work with the FZ20? I couldn't find anything at Ritz Camera, and places like Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples, etc., don't carry filter lenses or adapters at all!

Considering that price is no object, and that my main concern right now is to protect the camera lens (I have a long learning curve before I am ready to start using any converter lenses), someone please tell me why the Nextphoto snap-on adapter would not be a better choice over one of the tube adapters, especially if the supplied FZ20 Adapter and Hood can be used with it on sunny days, and used without causing problems with vignetting or limiting useable zoom range.

Also, if you were dead-set on choosing a tube adapter, which one would you chose and why?

I apologize for being so long winded, but I have a lot of questions and concerns about getting the right stuff for my new camera. It is very hard to buy stuff that you don't know about, sight unseen. Any inputs, comments, corrections :o and suggestions to the above will be most appreciated. Thanks! :)

[Tyler]

Impressions:

1. The closer that filter lens and any attached converter lens are to the FZ20 lens, the better.

2. It seems that the Phayee and Permaraal adapters are similar, but the raynox...

3. I would assume that the Nextphoto snap-on adapter

4. Hoods are available with the Permaraal and Phayee adapters but not others

5. The supplied FZ20 adapter and hood can be used with the Nextphoto


Let me answer this part first and I'll think on the rest for a while. You may get this reply in several parts to keep it organized... maybe...

Impressions:
1 - correct.

2 - The others are similar but one post I read had the Raynox adapter a bit closer than any of the others by 1-2 mm.

3 - next photo's adapter probably is the closest and confirmed that you cannot mount a conversion lens to it.

4. Hoods are available to fit onto most any standard thread size. What size adapter you decide to get dictates what size filters you can use and what size threads for the lens hood. You can stack a collapsible hood onto your lens filter without vignetting if it is wider than the field of view of the lens at its widest angle. The same is true of conversion lenses that have threads on the lens side.

5 - Don't know

[Tyler]

Questions:

1. First, I refer you to comparisons of the FZ20 adapter with the Permaraal PD62 adapter at Click here (http://www.pemaraal.com/compare5.html#FZ10 Teleconverters) .

From the comparisons shown:
a. It would seem that, with the longer FZ20 supplied adapter, the smaller the attached lens is, the more problems you have with vignetting and limited useable zoom range. It also occurs to some extent with the Permaraal PD62 as you step down with adapter rings from 62 to 58, 55 and 52mm, but not anywhere near what you experience with the longer FZ20 supplied adapter. Does this mean that problems would be experienced with the smaller Raynox 52mm adapter mentioned in the postings?
b. Could one expect there to be no problems with the Nextphoto snap-on adapter (with only filters attached) because it brings the attached lenses closer to the FZ20 lens than any of the tube adapters?
c. I would assume that similar results would be experienced if one chose the Phayee adapter over the Permaraal adapter. Is that correct?
d. Is it safe to assume that, when using a tube adapter, the smaller you step-down the thread size of the lens attachments, the more vignetting and limited useable zoom range you experience?


Hey! That's four questions in one :)

a. You kind of lost me on that one but let me say that the Raynox adapter does not, itself, cause vignetting when used with 52mm conversion lenses or with 52mm filters. There is always a risk of vignetting when using step down rings if you go to far and a lot of it depends on what kind of conversion lens you plan to use. The Raynox 2020, for example, is designed to be used at the full 12x zoom setting. Any wider and it will vignet regardless of the adapter used to attach it to the camera. If you use step down rings on a wide angle lens you run the risk of vignetting because you are using the widest 1x setting of the camera. Where wide angle lenses are concerned larger glass at the camera side is better and should be kept close as possible to the camera lens.

b. I would not expect problems with the nextphoto snap on filter adapter.

c. I don't think anyone is having problems with vignetting with any of the available adapters when only filters are in use. It is only when attaching conversion lenses do you need to worry about matching the adapter tube to the lens you plan to use.

d. See 'a' above.

[Tyler]

4. I like the fact that the Raynox has the adapter, MC filter, linear polarizer filter and lens cap in one bundle. But, I worry about the 52mm stepdown causing problems with vignetting and limiting useable zoom range. Are my fears unjustified? If so, how so? Also, what do you do about using a hood with the Raynox adapter on sunny days?

<snip>

Also, if you were dead-set on choosing a tube adapter, which one would you chose and why?


I went with the Raynox adapter primarily because I already had a bag full of 52mm filters left over from my SLR days. It was a logical choice for me and I liked the fact that it was redily avialble on line. I have not regretted purchasing it nor the two Raynox lenses I purchased afterward. For lens protection the Raynox adapter tube is just as capable as the others. The only real drawback of the Raynox is that you cannot attach the FZ20 lens hood to it and will have to find a suitable replacement.

The nextphoto snap on adapter is limited in what it can do but if all you want is a filter and lens protection, there is certainly nothing wrong with it. I don't have one so cannon comment on how difficult it is to remove.

A lot your questions seem to be pointed at the fear of vignetting and those are valid concerns. You should probably be concentrating less on the adapter tube itself and more on what types of lenses you may wish to attach later. If you know the lenses you want then specific recommendations can be made as to which adapter tube will optimize the use of those lenses. There really is no one tube that does it all currently available.

[gary_hendricks]

I have the Pemaraal - PD62. I think it's small and fits nicely on a FZ20 I used to own. Function wise, it's great too.

[mtritt]

I had a lot of the same questions and read tons of posts before I made a decision. Finally, it was between the Raynox and the NextPhoto. I liked the idea that the NextPhoto adaptor did not lengthen the camera. BTW, this adapter is made of metal and snaps on snugly. I called the NextPhoto people and asked. However, in the end, I ordered the Raynox because only a tube-type adaptor will fully surround the lens and protect the entire piece from dust and bumps.

However, after I ordered the Raynox, I cancelled the order and instead got the Phayee adapter because that adapter has 72mm threads at the end of the first piece so you can attach a hood even with a filter installed. You can't do that with a Raynox (unless there's some kind of hood that slips over and screws on - still, not as convenient as having actual threads.

[denisdev]

Thank you very much for answering all my questions, Tyler. That, plus some more information about this on Steve's Digicams Forum gives me food for thought. I am still undecided, but now understand a little more about adapters, filters, vignetting, etc. I have no idea at this time what additional lenses I might want in the future - the FZ20 lens is more than adequate for me until I learn more, and I have a lot to learn! This camera is not just a step up for me, it's a giant leap! So far, I love it!

I just got my Pemaraal PA55H with the integrated hood. I haven't heard anyone here discuss the Pemaraal hood adapters, so I thought some folks might like to know that it's excellent! First rate design. Same size as the non-hooded adapter. Very solid, and you don't have to remove the lens filter to remove/install the hood section. No interference with the FZ20 focus ring.

5-star rating!

I am kind of leaning toward the Permaraal PA62H (with hood), and I would like to know how the hood attaches and comes off. Are there threads for attaching it, or does it slide on over the adapter tube? I can't tell from the pictures on the Permaraal website. Also, I am still not clear as to why one would choose the 55mm adapter vs the 62mm (unless one already has 55mm filter and converter lenses???). Can you elaborate, sgoldste01? Are there advantages to choosing the 55mm over the 62mm? You all probably think I am pretty dumb, but I never had any of this stuff before, and have never seen any of it either, except in pictures. Can't find any of this stuff in local stores to physically see what it looks like, and I am nervous about buying anything online. You probably think this is silly, but I won't give out my credit card number online or by e-mail (just ultra-cautious and old-fashioned, I guess :D , plus I know that doing this online is never 100% secure, no matter what anyone says to the contrary), so I only deal with someone who will take my order by phone that I know is reputable. In the end, that may ultimately decide what adapter and filters I end up getting (or perhaps not getting).

Mainly, I want to protect my camera lens for now, and have a hood and polarizer as well because I plan to do a lot of outdoor shooting (which brings up another question - when you use a polarizer lens, do you need to use a hood with it?), but I also want to make an informed selection that will allow me to add lenses in the future as I learn more without running into problems or having to buy another adapter.

Thank you in advance for any further inputs and responses to my questions above.

[sgoldste01]

I am kind of leaning toward the Permaraal PA62H (with hood), and I would like to know how the hood attaches and comes off. Are there threads for attaching it, or does it slide on over the adapter tube? I can't tell from the pictures on the Permaraal website. Also, I am still not clear as to why one would choose the 55mm adapter vs the 62mm (unless one already has 55mm filter and converter lenses???). Can you elaborate, sgoldste01?

The hood section screws onto the main section of the adapter. The same set of threads hold the hood section in place regardless of the hood's orientation. It's really quite an elegant design, and is why I chose the Pemaraal over the Phayee (the Phayee's hood looks to be a completely separate piece that would be loose in your camera bag when you're not using it; the Pemaraal hood is always at hand, yet doesn't add size to the camera when it's not in the extended position).

I did choose the 55mm adapter because of existing filters (skylight and polarizing) that I have from my film SLR days. And to compare again, the Phayee would have required an additional step-down ring to bring me to 55mm (more extra parts), whereas Pemaraal allowed me to go straight to 55mm.

[24Peter]

I've been using the pemaraal PA62 for a few months. Works great. Very solid mount for my heavy TCON 14B teleconverter lens. Length protects the inside lens. I wasn't aware they made one with an integrated hood when I bought mine so that might be a good choice.

[denisdev]

[QUOTE=sgoldste01]The hood section screws onto the main section of the adapter. The same set of threads hold the hood section in place regardless of the hood's orientation. It's really quite an elegant design, and is why I chose the Pemaraal over the Phayee (the Phayee's hood looks to be a completely separate piece that would be loose in your camera bag when you're not using it; the Pemaraal hood is always at hand, yet doesn't add size to the camera when it's not in the extended position).

Thanks sgoldste01, that really helps. As to which size adapter to choose from those available, is there any advantage to choosing one size over the other? For example, are there more options (price range, converter lens type, quality) available in the way of filter lenses and converter lenses for one size vs the others? Is there any advantage in choosing the 62mm adapter over the others in the way of avoiding vignetting and getting the widest usable zoom range when converter lenses are added? Since the FZ20 lens opening is a 55mm (or so I thought anyway, the provided FZ20 lens cap fits a 55mm dia., right? - but I also read somewhere on Steve's forum that the lens opening is ~49mm, so I am again :confused: ), would it be better to choose an adapter that size (55mm) or is larger better? I notice that the 62mm filters are currently not available on the Permaraal website (out of stock). If I choose that size, where else might I find the MC UV and linear polarizer lenses from a reputable dealer, and is it necessary as some say to go with the more expensive ones like the 62mm Hoya Pro1 Super HMC Multi-coated UV-Haze filter for ~$40 and very thin (1mm vs 3mm for others as I recall)? I get the impression that the thinner the filter ring is, the better because the lens screws in closer to the camera lens, and gives better image quality (sharper focus) as well according to one person. I'm still not completely sure about all these technical issues, so any advice will be greatly appreciated. Also, can anyone point me to some reading that explains some of these issues in a simple and easy-to-understand manner?

Thanks in advance for any responses and advice.

[gary_hendricks]

I've been using the pemaraal PA62 for a few months. Works great. Very solid mount for my heavy TCON 14B teleconverter lens. Length protects the inside lens. I wasn't aware they made one with an integrated hood when I bought mine so that might be a good choice.

An acquaintance was telling me about the PA62 and how it works well with his FZ20.

[sgoldste01]

Thanks sgoldste01, that really helps. As to which size adapter to choose from those available, is there any advantage to choosing one size over the other? For example, are there more options (price range, converter lens type, quality) available in the way of filter lenses and converter lenses for one size vs the others? Is there any advantage in choosing the 62mm adapter over the others in the way of avoiding vignetting and getting the widest usable zoom range when converter lenses are added? Since the FZ20 lens opening is a 55mm (or so I thought anyway, the provided FZ20 lens cap fits a 55mm dia., right? - but I also read somewhere on Steve's forum that the lens opening is ~49mm, so I am again :confused: )
My research indicated that neither the 62mm nor the 55mm adapters cause vignetting, so you won't see any difference in that regard. I don't see any vignetting in my wide-angle shots, so this is true. Also, 55mm filters will be cheaper than 62mm because of the smaller size.

Yes, the original Lumix lens cap is 55mm, but I wanted a tethered lens cap, so I bought one of those from Pemaraal too. But if you don't mind using a non-tethered cap, you would be all set with your Lumix cap if you went with a 55mm system.

[denisdev]

My research indicated that neither the 62mm nor the 55mm adapters cause vignetting, so you won't see any difference in that regard. I don't see any vignetting in my wide-angle shots, so this is true. Also, 55mm filters will be cheaper than 62mm because of the smaller size.

Yes, the original Lumix lens cap is 55mm, but I wanted a tethered lens cap, so I bought one of those from Pemaraal too. But if you don't mind using a non-tethered cap, you would be all set with your Lumix cap if you went with a 55mm system.

I'm not terribly concerned about cost at this stage - it might be a consideration if and when I decide to try converter lenses. What I would like to do is, given that I am starting with nothing but the camera, to choose an adapter size that will give me the most/best options in the future without having to purchase an additional one. If you and others who might read this who have experience in this area conclude there is no distinct advantage one way or the other with regard to the options one has with either the 62mm or 55mm adapter size, then I might just flip a coin. One thing I wonder about (when the time comes, which won't be for a while) is, if there is a difference in converter lenses between the 62mm and 55mm that gives you either better quality or value for the money? And what about filters (regardless of size) - are the more expensive, thin ones better to choose as some advocate, or doesn't it make much difference, as others have said? I do want a tethered cap also, even if I choose the 55mm.

Thanks again for your help.

[denisdev]

Thought I would post this info for anyone who might have had the same or similar questions that I had in my last post. Here's what Peter Liontas at Permaraal had to say about it:

"There is no apparent advantage/disadvantage to one size over the other in image quality. All three sizes perform equally. As you stated, the advantage of getting the 55mm version is the lower cost of 55mm filters. The advantage to getting the 62mm version is mostly aesthetic. The 62mm does not have a flange in the front to accommodate the smaller thread size of the 58mm and 55mm versions. If a converter lens is in your plans and you haven't picked a particular model out, than go with the 62mm as it provides the most flexibility."

I also asked about his test pictures where shadowing appeared when he used the PD62 adapter with a 62-55mm step-ring and a TCON-17 lens on the FZ20 at 6X and 12X zoom. I wanted to know if the same results would occur if the PD55 adapter had been used without a step-ring. Here's what he said about that:

"As for the TCON-17 tests, the use of the 55mm adapter with the TCON-17 would have shown the same results. The TCON-14B is better suited for the FZ20. With the TCON-14B you will not have the light loss problem or limited zoom range that plagues the TCON-17 ; even if you decide to purchase the 55mm adapter."

Hope this info is of some help to those of you who are as new to this as I am. It helped me to decide which adapter to use - I'm going to go for future flexibility and get the PA62H. As for future considerations in purchasing converter lenses, I'll definitely avoid the TCON-17.

[Tokret]

i have a new fz20 and i want to buy some ND, IR (for experiment), and UV filters.

which size should i get? i have read some bought 52mm, 55mm and others 62mm.

if possible, i dont like to buy a new adaptor. but, if it is more convenient to buy one which size would that be?

thanks and pardon my being a newbie, i just got my fz20 yesterday.

[Tokret]

Originally Posted by sgoldste01
My research indicated that neither the 62mm nor the 55mm adapters cause vignetting, so you won't see any difference in that regard. I don't see any vignetting in my wide-angle shots, so this is true. Also, 55mm filters will be cheaper than 62mm because of the smaller size.

Yes, the original Lumix lens cap is 55mm, but I wanted a tethered lens cap, so I bought one of those from Pemaraal too. But if you don't mind using a non-tethered cap, you would be all set with your Lumix cap if you went with a 55mm system.


i guess ill be getting the 55mm.

[FZ20user]

Hi: I have just bought my new FZ20 (by the way, it is silver -I must be the only one in the world-) and I want to protect the lenses, so after all the good info here I was decided to buy Permaraal adpator with hood 62mm and UV MC filter when... somebody has told me that with digital cameras there might be problems with UV and skylight filters (like undesired reflections). Is that true? What can I do? Is it worth/better to buy a neutral MC filter? I NEED SOME LIGHT... THANK YOU :confused:

[sgoldste01]

Hi: I have just bought my new FZ20 (by the way, it is silver -I must be the only one in the world-) and I want to protect the lenses, so after all the good info here I was decided to buy Permaraal adpator with hood 62mm and UV MC filter when... somebody has told me that with digital cameras there might be problems with UV and skylight filters (like undesired reflections). Is that true? What can I do? Is it worth/better to buy a neutral MC filter? I NEED SOME LIGHT... THANK YOU :confused:
My old skylight filter from my film SLR doesn't seem to cause any ill effects (mounted on my Pemaraal 55mm adapter), but I too would be interested to hear others answer this question.

[pixelator]

In my Fz15 I have seen that the skylight causes a light tint, that you have to correct.

[ggw2000]

I went with the Raynox adapter primarily because I already had a bag full of 52mm filters left over from my SLR days. It was a logical choice for me and I liked the fact that it was redily avialble on line. I have not regretted purchasing it nor the two Raynox lenses I purchased afterward. For lens protection the Raynox adapter tube is just as capable as the others. The only real drawback of the Raynox is that you cannot attach the FZ20 lens hood to it and will have to find a suitable replacement.

The nextphoto snap on adapter is limited in what it can do but if all you want is a filter and lens protection, there is certainly nothing wrong with it. I don't have one so cannon comment on how difficult it is to remove.

A lot your questions seem to be pointed at the fear of vignetting and those are valid concerns. You should probably be concentrating less on the adapter tube itself and more on what types of lenses you may wish to attach later. If you know the lenses you want then specific recommendations can be made as to which adapter tube will optimize the use of those lenses. There really is no one tube that does it all currently available.


TYLER, are you using a hood (hard or collapsible) with your Raynox setup? I am going to go Raynox all the way and am currently researching as to whether there is a hood available.. Thanks, Gerry

[Tyler]

TYLER, are you using a hood (hard or collapsible) with your Raynox setup? I am going to go Raynox all the way and am currently researching as to whether there is a hood available.. Thanks, Gerry

I haven't got that far yet. I seriously doubt I will find one that works with the 6600 because of its wide angle of view. I will soon start looking for one for the DCR 1540 and I would also like one that fits onto the adapter's 52mm filter. I will probably will go with a Hoya collapsible for both.

For a good selection of available lens hoods visit:
Lens Hoods (http://www.camerafilters.com/pages/lenshoods.aspx)

[ggw2000]

I haven't got that far yet. I seriously doubt I will find one that works with the 6600 because of its wide angle of view. I will soon start looking for one for the DCR 1540 and I would also like one that fits onto the adapter's 52mm filter. I will probably will go with a Hoya collapsible for both.

For a good selection of available lens hoods visit:
Lens Hoods (http://www.camerafilters.com/pages/lenshoods.aspx)


Tyler, I think I am going to go with the HAMA collapsible hoods. A 52mm for adapter and a 67mm for the 1540Pro.. They can be found at:
http://www.camerastore.com/

Gerry

[Tyler]

Tyler, I think I am going to go with the HAMA collapsible hoods. A 52mm for adapter and a 67mm for the 1540Pro.. They can be found at:
http://www.camerastore.com/

Gerry

When you get them in post a reply and let me know how they work out. In the mean time I have bookmarked that site for future reference. Thanks.

[gary_hendricks]

I am looking for a 62mm adapter for my new FZ20 and would appreciate feedback on any of the following if you have purchased them for your FZ20:


Pro-Technica - (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43441&item=3851146011&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Phayee - (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43441&item=3850204139&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Pemaraal - PD62 (http://www.b-300.com/fz10ac.html)


I am looking to then put a 62mm UV filter on it and possibly an Adorama Hama hood.

I'm thinking of getting a Phayee adapter.

[gary_hendricks]

I'd go for a Phayee adapter.

[ggw2000]

When you get them in post a reply and let me know how they work out. In the mean time I have bookmarked that site for future reference. Thanks.

Will probably order them the first of week.... Gerry

[brianh]

I have just bought Bower 2.0x tele lens and a Bower 0.5 wide angle lens for my FZ20.

I have used 72 - 52 step-down rings on the wide angle to make it fit. My problem now is vignetting. I am thnking that if I use extension tubes rather than the supplied tube and bring the wide angle lens closer to the FZ20 Lens this will reduce the vignetting. Will this work - any one else tried it?

Brianh

[Chuck43]

now that i am dazed and confused about which adaptor i need or want (hours of reading) i was looking to buy the premerall adaptot at 62 mm but my film camera uses 58mm and not sure what the advantage is between the two? i have 58 mm filters is there more assories for 62 than 58? less problems in 62 than the other? help!!!!!.

[Tyler]

now that i am dazed and confused about which adaptor i need or want (hours of reading) i was looking to buy the premerall adaptot at 62 mm but my film camera uses 58mm and not sure what the advantage is between the two? i have 58 mm filters is there more assories for 62 than 58? less problems in 62 than the other? help!!!!!.

Are you going to use if for filters only or do you plan to also use add-on lenses?

If it is for filters only take your pick. None really offer an advantage over the other, except perhaps the ones with built-in lens hoods like the PH series pemeraals. A 62mm-58mm step down ring used with the 62mm adapter would work ok but is not the ideal situation, but, there is a company that is adverising zero thickness step down rings that would make it acceptable -

http://www.photosolve.com/eShop/10Browse.asp?Category=Thread%20Converters%20and%20 Stepping%20Rings

If you plan to use add-on lenses at some point in time now would be the time to pick a line of lenses that interests you most and choose an adapter to suit the thread sizes of those lenses. It is always best to have add-on lenses mounted as close as possible to the camera lens and you should avoid having to use step-up/down rings if at all possible.

Take a peek here for a list of available add-on lenses -
http://www.pbase.com/image/26137750

Raynox also offers a line of lenses that may interest you -
http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/fz10/index.htm

If you are not sure about which add-ons to consider or have specific questions fire away...

[Chuck43]

what i have is filters and a rubber hood in 58 from my canon that would work on a premeral of the same thread but in the future i may want to add different attachments what i was wondering is 62mm have more attacments than 58m or should i go lower?. whats the industry standard? on the thread size?. dont want 3 or four tubes.

[Tyler]

what i have is filters and a rubber hood in 58 from my canon that would work on a premeral of the same thread but in the future i may want to add different attachments what i was wondering is 62mm have more attacments than 58m or should i go lower?. whats the industry standard? on the thread size?. dont want 3 or four tubes.

If you visited the sites I linked to you would have see that there is no industry standard. It's just not that simple. With 62mm you can mount a Tcon-14b, Raynox 2020 and a Nikon T6. With 58mm you can mount the Sony HDG1758. With 55mm you can mount a Canon TL-55, B-300 or a Tcon 17. With 52mm you can mount any number of Raynox WA & TC lenses as well as the Oly C-210. With 49mm you can mount the Minolta Act-100. Then there are any number of wild angle attachments that fit all these thread sizes.

I cannot recommend one over the other and as soon as I do someone will come along and point out why something else or other is better. Do the research, follow the links and make a decision on your own is the best advice I can give.

Comparison shots of various WA and TC lenses -

TCs -
http://www.pbase.com/10kzoomfz/tele_pd62_comparisons
http://nighthead.adzoo.jp/fz/telecon/telecon1.htm

WAs -
http://www.overseacruise.com/digicame/fz1wcon2.htm

[BowtieZ28]

I purchased the adapter from NextPhoto at: http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm and am very happy with it. It cost $25.

"FZ20 - 58mm & 52mm Thread Adaptor (Part # NP2058)

The 58 adaptor is used to attach 52 or 58mm filters to the FZ20 lens. It snaps in place and provides a 52 & 58mm thread. The adaptor can be left on the camera when turning it off. The original Panasonic lens cap can no longer be used.

For use with filters only! Do not use with accessory lenses."

Worth a look at.
Hope it helps and not to confuse further.

Bowtie

[Chuck43]

Thanks guys for your help!.

[jimgaston]

Phayee - my view this is the ONLY way to go. :)

[MoD]

I purchased the adapter from NextPhoto at: http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm and am very happy with it. It cost $25.

"FZ20 - 58mm & 52mm Thread Adaptor (Part # NP2058)

The 58 adaptor is used to attach 52 or 58mm filters to the FZ20 lens. It snaps in place and provides a 52 & 58mm thread. The adaptor can be left on the camera when turning it off. The original Panasonic lens cap can no longer be used.

For use with filters only! Do not use with accessory lenses."

Worth a look at.
Hope it helps and not to confuse further.

Bowtie

I'm leaning towards getting one of these, only in the 55mm size because I've already got a 55mm polarizer filter from an older camera. I'm not going to be adding wide or tele convertors, the range of the lens is awesome as it is IMO. All I need this for is to protect the lens, basically. The way the Panasonic filter hooks on the lens hood is crazy - I can't believe engineers that could design such a great camera would come up with something like that.

I don't see any drawbacks to the Nextphoto adaptor - am I missing something?

And how does Nexphoto's lens cap work? There's no picture on their site, and it doesn't look like it could work like Panasonic's (there doens't seem to be enough room). Is it a rubbery snap-on thing?

[MoD]

Well I guess I can answer my own question now. I finally received my adapter and lens cap from Nextphoto. It was sent via Canadian Air Mail, which took about 9 business days (almost 2 weeks).

The adapter works fine so far. You don't have to remove the lens ring to put it on. I've tried using my 55mm polarizing filter, and I'm considering getting a 52mm UV filter to see if I can use 2 filters at one time.

The lens cap is pretty nice, but I've found that it wasn't really necessary - the old one still fit, it just stuck out a bit farther. It's basically the same style as the Lumix cap, but with the added ability to remove it by squeezing the outer edge instead of having to squeeze the inner edge. And of course it's tethered as opposed to the Lumix.

I haven't looked at the shots I took with the polarizing filter yet, but one thing I haven't seen mentioned on this board is the fact that you can't really see the effect of the filter through the EVF like you can with an SLR. When I used to use this filter with an SLR, I would rotate the filter to acheive maximum polarization, but you can't do that with the EVF.

[MoD]

Just now I looked at the test shots I took with the polarizing filter. I had rotated the filter between shots (12:00, 3:00, 6:00, etc.). I can't tell any difference between them.

It's kind of disappointing - I used to see an amazing difference with an SLR, but it doesn't really matter - the same effect can be acheived by adjusting saturation and levels in Photoshop.

I'm just passing this info along in the hopes it may help someone else save a few bucks - I don't see it as being worth the investment. If you're considering buying a polarizing filter, you might want to go to your local camera store and see if they'll let you take a few test shots in the store with the filter before you buy.

[pwiles1968]

what i have is filters and a rubber hood in 58 from my canon that would work on a premeral of the same thread but in the future i may want to add different attachments what i was wondering is 62mm have more attacments than 58m or should i go lower?. whats the industry standard? on the thread size?. dont want 3 or four tubes.

If all you want to use is Filters or put a protective lens on the camera try this - http://www.nextphoto.net/FZ20.htm, You can still use the Supplied Hood as a hood, I have added a folding rubber hood instead of the Panasonic Petal one.

I bought the next photo adapter last year and it is now super glued to my camera I am that confident I never need to take it off, I Have a UV filter Permanently attached now, and occasionally attach Dioptres or Raynox Macro lenses on there which are pretty light.

I can Post Photos If you want. Don’t Forget though you Can Not Attach Anything Heavy only filters.

[emalvick]

Just now I looked at the test shots I took with the polarizing filter. I had rotated the filter between shots (12:00, 3:00, 6:00, etc.). I can't tell any difference between them.

It's kind of disappointing - I used to see an amazing difference with an SLR, but it doesn't really matter - the same effect can be acheived by adjusting saturation and levels in Photoshop.

I'm just passing this info along in the hopes it may help someone else save a few bucks - I don't see it as being worth the investment. If you're considering buying a polarizing filter, you might want to go to your local camera store and see if they'll let you take a few test shots in the store with the filter before you buy.

I've found a polarizer to be quite useful with my FZ15. I do see the effects of it in the EVF and on the LCD screen in the cases where a polarizer may be necessary. I found it especially useful for taking shots through water in tidepools and such where without the polarizer the glare would have been so bad that there would have been nothing to see. In fact, I've found my polarizer to be every bit as effective as it was on my old SLR.

I basically find it useful for any situation where glare or reflections are distracting from a photo. In the cases where it doesn't work, it is because the glare and reflection are direct, in which case it shouldn't work on a SLR either.

Erik

[bracko]

can anyone guide me on a wide angle adapter?

[LoveLife]

I have just bought Bower 2.0x tele lens and a Bower 0.5 wide angle lens for my FZ20.

I have used 72 - 52 step-down rings on the wide angle to make it fit. My problem now is vignetting. I am thnking that if I use extension tubes rather than the supplied tube and bring the wide angle lens closer to the FZ20 Lens this will reduce the vignetting. Will this work - any one else tried it?

Brianh
http://lovelife.smugmug.com/photos/22520373-L.jpg

A third party adapter will bring your lens close to the front optics but you may still get vignetting at different zooms and f-stops. It is the nature of the beast. Here are my sample pictures of the FZ10, same as the 20, with different lenses. You will notice that this is not uncommon among add on TCs. It is a question of how much and if you care to do fix-ups. http://lovelife.smugmug.com/Other/79692

[LoveLife]

can anyone guide me on a wide angle adapter?
Here are my sample pictures of the FZ10, same as the 20, with different lenses the first 9 shots are WA.. http://lovelife.smugmug.com/Other/79692

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Here are my sample pictures of the FZ10, same as the 20, with different lenses the first 9 shots are WA.. http://lovelife.smugmug.com/Other/79692


nice! so 23mm is about as WA as the FZ20 goes?? you'll have to bear with me, adapters are not exactly my forte....

so what's the name of the adapter lense? where did you get it? the net? what about the adapter??

cheers in advance. :)

[LoveLife]

nice! so 23mm is about as WA as the FZ20 goes?? you'll have to bear with me, adapters are not exactly my forte....

so what's the name of the adapter lense? where did you get it? the net? what about the adapter??

cheers in advance. :)
The lens is the Raynox DCR6600. The CRing adapter is my own design which is different then all the rest. It uses my special designed CRing which does not changes the mounting position when the adapter is changed to 52mm, 55mm or 58mm. I will be selling it in two weeks.

[bracko]

thanks :)

I've just been reading about it... I'll be using the lense for club shooting, a review has said it's no good for it.... have you found it bad for indoor shots?

[skyrocketfw]

I would like to get collapsible lens hood to use with Phayee adapter. Should I get a 62mm lens hood to attach to the 62mm part (1st part) or 72mm lens hood to attach to the 72mm part (2nd part)?

Thanks

[LoveLife]

I would like to get collapsible lens hood to use with Phayee adapter. Should I get a 62mm lens hood to attach to the 62mm part (1st part) or 72mm lens hood to attach to the 72mm part (2nd part)?

Thanks
Many people do not understand the importance of using a hood on a Zoom lens. It cuts back on ambient light, which at a minimum gives you more color saturation. You have found out that the Phayee 72mm ring is not very effective.
The safe way is to mount the three-position 62mm Hama multi lens or Hama style hood on the 62mm section. This hood has a depth of 30 42 or 50mm
I recall seeing one individual who mounted a collapsible rubber 3 positions 72mm Hama or Hama style hood on the end of the Phayee 72mm ring. The reason he did not get vignetting is the OD on the front of the hood is 105mm. I think he was wrong and should have purchased a less expensive two position hood which would add 32mm of coverage to the 72mm Phayee ring with a front OD of 96mm. If the Phayee ring is deeper then 19mm it is the best solution.

[skyrocketfw]

Many people do not understand the importance of using a hood on a Zoom lens. It cuts back on ambient light, which at a minimum gives you more color saturation. You have found out that the Phayee 72mm ring is not very effective.
The safe way is to mount the three-position 62mm Hama multi lens or Hama style hood on the 62mm section. This hood has a depth of 30 42 or 50mm
I recall seeing one individual who mounted a collapsible rubber 3 positions 72mm Hama or Hama style hood on the end of the Phayee 72mm ring. The reason he did not get vignetting is the OD on the front of the hood is 105mm. I think he was wrong and should have purchased a less expensive two position hood which would add 32mm of coverage to the 72mm Phayee ring with a front OD of 96mm. If the Phayee ring is deeper then 19mm it is the best solution.

Thanks.

One further question, does Panasonic supplied petal hood fix Phayee 72mm ring? I haven't ordered Phayee adapter yet and would like to know if I should order their 62mm petal hood as well or not. Is there an advantage in using petal hood over the adapter hood? Thanks.

[LoveLife]

Thanks.

One further question, does Panasonic supplied petal hood fix Phayee 72mm ring? I haven't ordered Phayee adapter yet and would like to know if I should order their 62mm petal hood as well or not. Is there an advantage in using petal hood over the adapter hood? Thanks.
The Panasonic supplied hood mount is 62mm and will not fit on the 72mm section. It is pretty, and pretty ineffective, and so are all of Phayee’s hoods. The tulip design is too much of a compromise, the cut out corners help in 35 to 60mm shots but as you zoom it degrades. In some photographic situations, you have to rotate the hood to block the sun, which will cause you to shoot above 60mm. Not all rubber hoods are created equal. You want to get a multi-lens hood not a standard or WA hood. Hama or Hama copies are the way to go. There is a nice Hoya model but it does not have threads for a lens cap.

[skyrocketfw]

According to http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/User-Guide/FZ-10/Converters/Adapters/Taiwan-Adapter.html, Chen's adapter with his step-down ring doesn't add any depth. can the same thing be said with Phayee adapter with any step-down ring?

Is there any difference between step-down ring produced by different brands? Do some work better than others?

[LoveLife]

According to http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/User-Guide/FZ-10/Converters/Adapters/Taiwan-Adapter.html, Chen's adapter with his step-down ring doesn't add any depth. can the same thing be said with Phayee adapter with any step-down ring?

Is there any difference between step-down ring produced by different brands? Do some work better than others?

All step down rings shift the TC away from the adapter it is a matter of degree. There is a thin ring, which shifts the TC about .7mm; I believe the Chin does the same. My new adapter, which I will be selling in 2 weeks, has a zero displacement when changed with my special CRing to 58, 55 or 52mm. The common step rings can move the lens 2.5mm+. The Phayee ring has a 2.5mm offset.

[skyrocketfw]

My new adapter, which I will be selling in 2 weeks, has a zero displacement when changed with my special CRing to 58, 55 or 52mm.
Do you mean your own made one? Let me know when you start selling them.

Do I suppose to leave UV filter on adapter all the time? When converter lens is used, should I still leave the UV filter on, i.e. fz20 -> adapter -> uv filter -> converter, or I better take it off?

[LoveLife]

Do you mean your own made one? Let me know when you start selling them.

Do I suppose to leave UV filter on adapter all the time? When converter lens is used, should I still leave the UV filter on, i.e. fz20 -> adapter -> uv filter -> converter, or I better take it off?

FZ20 > adapter >UV > Hood > all the time except for...
when you put TC on then it is:

FZ20 > adapter >TC lens>different UV >different Hood.

I have the adapter now, it defaults to 62mm and will support all 62mm accessaries. The special CRings and inertion key are not here. I expect delivery in 1-2 weeks.
send me an email at jkconsultants@att.net
HTH

[philmorley]

hi

please excuse my ignorance on these questions.

I have a fuji s5000 about to be replaced with an fz20, I use a tcon17 on the fuji and wish to use it on fz20 as well. I went looking to find out what thread sizes the fz20 has and Panasonics site says use 72mm, yet there seems to an awful lot of people using stuff at 55mm or 62mm, So is the "native" size 72mm and then step down adapters are being used (phayee etc)?? Just confused as to the starting thread size.

Also at one point I bought a cheap 49mm wide angle for the fuji (uses 55mm) and stepped down to 49. Beyond learning my lesson about cheap lenses :):) I had to zoom in a little to so that the step downs weren't visible and in doing so lost most of the advantage of using a wide angle lens. With all the discussions of which wide angle add on to use most seem to be 55mm - 62mm as well, so if the fz20 is 72mm wouldn't this have the same problem, I did i just do somethimg stupid :)

Finally one the downfalls and key areas for replacing the fuji is for macro work. I use a +3 and +2 diopter on this. I see people using a zoom lens and reversing ring to get closer than the diopter, does anyone have any recommendations as to what to use here?

Thankyou
Phil

[LoveLife]

hi

please excuse my ignorance on these questions.

I have a fuji s5000 about to be replaced with an fz20, I use a tcon17 on the fuji and wish to use it on fz20 as well. I went looking to find out what thread sizes the fz20 has and Panasonics site says use 72mm, yet there seems to an awful lot of people using stuff at 55mm or 62mm, So is the "native" size 72mm and then step down adapters are being used (phayee etc)?? Just confused as to the starting thread size.

Also at one point I bought a cheap 49mm wide angle for the fuji (uses 55mm) and stepped down to 49. Beyond learning my lesson about cheap lenses :):) I had to zoom in a little to so that the step downs weren't visible and in doing so lost most of the advantage of using a wide angle lens. With all the discussions of which wide angle add on to use most seem to be 55mm - 62mm as well, so if the fz20 is 72mm wouldn't this have the same problem, I did i just do somethimg stupid :)

Finally one the downfalls and key areas for replacing the fuji is for macro work. I use a +3 and +2 diopter on this. I see people using a zoom lens and reversing ring to get closer than the diopter, does anyone have any recommendations as to what to use here?

Thankyou
Phil

Hi phil,

The correct way of solving this problem is to purchase a third party adapter that supports 55mm without a step-down ring. You have one choice today and two choices in two weeks. The only correct choice today is to buy the Pemaraal adapter, which comes in 55mm. You should also purchase a 55mm UV, and a 3 stage 52mm collapsible rubber Hama hood to keep on the adapter at all times when the Tcon is not being used.



Wide-angle issue:

Am I correct that the WA has a 49mm mount and you were using a 55-49mm step-down ring to attach it to the Fuji? There are no 49mm adapters made for the FZ20, so you mount to the 55mm adapter would use the same procedure.



Marco Issue:

You did not mention a brand name or if these are close-up filters or close-up lenses. We can find out quickly with one statement. If your macro shots before cropping were sharp, end-to-end these are close-up lenses. If there was a sharp drop off at the edges, they are close-up filters, which perform poorly on the FZ.

If you need to replace them, purchase the Nikon 3T and 4T, a 1.5 and 2.9 diopter. They are 52mm mounts so you would need a 55-52mm step-down ring.

Lens reversing has been done by taping the lens to the adapter or thru a series of rings. The best lens to use is a 100mm zoom or fixed focal lens with a 62mm filter size. You would get a 62mm reversing ring and a 55-62mm step up ring.



The second option available in 2 weeks is my new CRing adapter with my special CRings. The adapter comes in 62mm and can be uses with any 62mm accessory. The TCON17 would be permanently converted to a 62mm mount by affixing the 62-55CRing to the lens with a key. I also have special caps to fit over the CRing when attached to the lens. You would purchase a 62mm UV filter and a 3 stage 62mm collapsible rubber Hama hood and lens cap to keep on the adapter at all times when the Tcon is not being used.



Wide-angle issue:

I do not make a 49mm CRing so you would use the same 55-49mm step-down ring and then share or purchase a second 62-55CRing. The lens position using either adapter would be the same because the CRing fits flush inside the adapter and does not add to the offset.



Marco Issue:

You could then purchase two more 62-55CRings and permanently convert the exiting lenses to 62mm.

If these lenses need replacement, you would purchase a Nikon 5T and a 6T, which are the same as the 3T and 4T except in 62mm mounts. No CRings are necessary.



The second solution may be a little more expensive but is much more flexible. You could then buy other lenses like the TCON14B or the wide-angle Wcon08B, both 62mm mount or some Raynox lenses which come in 52mm mount. I have a 62-52mm CRing. Attaching any of these lenses to the 55mm Pemaraal would require step-down or step-up rings and the performance would be poorer. BTW, the absolute best marriage of a third party lens to the FZ20 is the TCON14B.



If you go the Pemaraal route do not get the H series the hood is too shallow to be effective.



HTH



LoveLife

[philmorley]

Thanks for that

Still a bit confused, so I'll try a couple more questions :)

For the FZ20, to attach a filter / lens etc without using any special adapters the "correct" size is 72mm? if so, is there any disadvantage to using say a 55 or 62mm filter and adapter. Also if it is 72mm and you want to add a wide angle lens say a wcon at 55mm do you have to zoom in so that the inside of the adapter isn't visible (and lose the benefit of the wide angle).

next question :) if you want greater magnification than a 6t + 5t is there any suggestions??

Many thanks again
Phil

[philmorley]

Hi again,

Thanks I got it worked out through your comments, another thread and Ching-Kuang Shene. Except for the macro, are there options for going beyond a 6t + 5t

Rgds
Phil

[LoveLife]

Hi again,

Thanks I got it worked out through your comments, another thread and Ching-Kuang Shene. Except for the macro, are there options for going beyond a 6t + 5t

Rgds
Phil
DCR250 +8 diopter when you get up this high the DOF and Working distance about 5", is very small. To get final focusing you have to move the camera towards and away from the subject and adjust the focus ring.
This lens comes with a snap ring mount which fits on 52mm to 67mm.

[IlBianconero]

Hi!

I can see on ebay a 3x telephoto conversion lens for 80$!!! It includes an adapter ring 52-49 mm to go with it.Also I can see a fishnet ring for the same price....I think the manufacturer is like Phoenix or smth,it says made in Japan as well....the price is really low,I mean....3x telephoto???!!!?!!On the FZ20...it's almost out of this world!

Do you have any experience with this kind of lens?Can anyone give me a suggestion about this?10x.

[LoveLife]

Hi!

I can see on ebay a 3x telephoto conversion lens for 80$!!! It includes an adapter ring 52-49 mm to go with it.Also I can see a fishnet ring for the same price....I think the manufacturer is like Phoenix or smth,it says made in Japan as well....the price is really low,I mean....3x telephoto???!!!?!!On the FZ20...it's almost out of this world!

Do you have any experience with this kind of lens?Can anyone give me a suggestion about this?10x.

My suggestion is to come back to earth and pass. The only lens to give very decent results is the Raynox DCR2020 62mm mount, 2.1X $198.00 or the DCR1540 52mm mount, 1.5X, $118.00. I can show you these results at http://lovelife.smugmug.com/gallery/543892 (http://lovelife.smugmug.com/gallery/543892). These lenses perform at there best when mounted on an adapter of the same mm.

[IlBianconero]

:D :D

You are so right! I was saying,it's really exciting,I mean the idea...
But I also think no way in hell are those conv.lenses do what they are advertised to do...
Thanxs for the reply.I can see from the links those lenses work well indeed.
I also found all other accesories required to mount the lens on another site:

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/fz10/

ok.Thanxs!!!

[StanStan]

Guess trouble is you would need another camera to photgraph the FZ with adapter :D

Shoot into a mirror. Try it. You might like it! Use timer or release to get out of the picture.

Of course the 'looker' will have to use another mirror to read the markings on the camera!

Or use two at an angle.

STAN

[StanStan]

Hi!

I can see on ebay a 3x telephoto conversion lens for 80$!!! It includes an adapter ring 52-49 mm to go with it.Also I can see a fishnet ring for the same price....I think the manufacturer is like Phoenix or smth,it says made in Japan as well....the price is really low,I mean....3x telephoto???!!!?!!On the FZ20...it's almost out of this world!

Do you have any experience with this kind of lens?Can anyone give me a suggestion about this?10x.

To have fun in the real world place a TCON 17 on a C 210 and see what you get. Gene and I did it.

http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/User-Guide/FZ-10/Converters/Lenses/Stacking-Lenses.html

STAN

[del35s]

Many people do not understand the importance of using a hood on a Zoom lens. It cuts back on ambient light, which at a minimum gives you more color saturation. You have found out that the Phayee 72mm ring is not very effective.
The safe way is to mount the three-position 62mm Hama multi lens or Hama style hood on the 62mm section. This hood has a depth of 30 42 or 50mm
I recall seeing one individual who mounted a collapsible rubber 3 positions 72mm Hama or Hama style hood on the end of the Phayee 72mm ring. The reason he did not get vignetting is the OD on the front of the hood is 105mm. I think he was wrong and should have purchased a less expensive two position hood which would add 32mm of coverage to the 72mm Phayee ring with a front OD of 96mm. If the Phayee ring is deeper then 19mm it is the best solution.


I'm sorry if i'm posting all wrong - i've never posted anywhere before...

Yes, this is very much my same question. unfortunately i'm a little slow too so I require some re-explanation.

I've read quite a bit about various adapters for the fz20 on various message boards, including here. i'm thinking about going the phayee route basically because it looks nicer than the permaraal and functions better than the raynox (though maybe not?)- this is based on everything that i've read here and elsewhere.

one individual indicated that they use the following configuration:

fz20>phayee adapter>filter(62mm?)>phayee hood>hama hood(72mm?)

most folks seem to just store the phayee hood and in its place use (i believe its then the 62mm) hama hood.

is there any disadvantage to using the hama hood in addition to the phayee hood? is there a benefit to extending the adapter's hood with the hama rubber?

is it possible to have a hood extend too far? is that why you mentioned something about a two position vs a three position hood? i don't know what you mean by the OD and that measurement. (obvious i'm a novice) can you clarify?

once i get this straightened out, i'm planning to use a mc filter all the time, and occaisionally a linear polarizing filter. for my basic, everyday use, do you think you could advise if i should be considering any other filters?

thanks,
dave

[LoveLife]

I'm sorry if i'm posting all wrong - i've never posted anywhere before...

Yes, this is very much my same question. unfortunately i'm a little slow too so I require some re-explanation.

I've read quite a bit about various adapters for the fz20 on various message boards, including here. i'm thinking about going the phayee route basically because it looks nicer than the permaraal and functions better than the raynox (though maybe not?)- this is based on everything that i've read here and elsewhere.

one individual indicated that they use the following configuration:

fz20>phayee adapter>filter(62mm?)>phayee hood>hama hood(72mm?)

most folks seem to just store the phayee hood and in its place use (i believe its then the 62mm) hama hood.

is there any disadvantage to using the hama hood in addition to the phayee hood? is there a benefit to extending the adapter's hood with the hama rubber?

is it possible to have a hood extend too far? is that why you mentioned something about a two position vs a three position hood? i don't know what you mean by the OD and that measurement. (obvious i'm a novice) can you clarify?

once i get this straightened out, i'm planning to use a mc filter all the time, and occaisionally a linear polarizing filter. for my basic, everyday use, do you think you could advise if i should be considering any other filters?

thanks,
dave

In one day there will be another option. The CRing adpter.

[StanStan]

.

i'm thinking about going the phayee route basically because it looks nicer than the permaraal and functions better than the raynox (though maybe not?)-
one individual indicated that they use the following configuration:

I like the Phayee because of the three parts: lens adapter,thread cover and 'hood?'
.
fz20>phayee adapter>filter(62mm?)>phayee hood>hama hood(72mm?)

I use: FZ20>Phayee lens adapter>filter 62mm>Phayee napkin ring 'hood' 72mm>Hama 72 rubber hood. 62 or 72 mm center opening lens cap The Phayee hood is NOT a hood although many posters call it such. I call it a napkin ring.
It allows the use of a 72mm hood. What the 'napkin ring hood' really does is to lengthen the hood for telephoto shooting. The Phayee 'napkin ring hood' and the Hama hood work nicely together.

most folks seem to just store the Phayee hood and in its place use (i believe its then the 62mm) Hama hood.

I keep the 72mm Hama hood on most of the time when I do not have a telephoto stacked
The rubber hood acts as a rubber bumper when I am in the woods.

is there any disadvantage to using the hama hood in addition to the phayee hood? is there a benefit to extending the adapter's hood with the hama rubber?

As above, I believe it is an advantage: longer hood length for tele's. Makes the hood longer!

is it possible to have a hood extend too far? is that why you mentioned something about a two position vs a three position hood? i don't know what you mean by the OD and that measurement. (obvious i'm a novice) can you clarify?

Hama hood can be rolled back in three stages but I only roll it back once for shooting at 1x zoom.If a rubber hood causes vignetting at low zooms, darkening of the image's corners, which will be seen on the viewfinders, the rubber hood can be folded back to eliminate the vignetting That is the advantage of a rubber hood over a solid hood.
.
once i get this straightened out, i'm planning to use a mc filter all the time, and occaisionally a linear polarizing filter. for my basic, everyday use, do you think you could advise if i should be considering any other filters?

I use only a UV or a LINEAR polarizing filter. Not both together Too much loss of light. As above: when I have no tele's stacked I leave the FZ20>.Phayee lens adapter>62mm filter>Phayee napkin hood>Hama hood 72mm > 72 center closing cap attached all the time.

thanks,
dave

Read other posts and make up your own mind.

There is going to be a CRing adapter out there but I have no real knowledge of it.

STAN

[del35s]

stan,

you da man! i certainly feel more comfortable now to keep the "napkin ring" hood (nice name) attached and then add the 72mm hama hood after.

lovelife sent me a link to the cring adapter - it's on e-bay now. it seems a little more complicated (needs a key to tighten down c-rings to add-on lenses or directly to adapter). it's also expensive. it boasts that add-ons may fit more closely than other adapters allow, but i don't think that any of the major adapters out there (phayee, raynox, pemaraal, yashida, x-tenda, etc) have been crticised for the gap between adapter and lens. anyway...

so i'm going phayee for a number of reasons, not the least of which is i think it looks best - but also, those that have used it for an extended period seem to still like it (some have even switched from other adapters to phayee).

i'm planning to put a 72mm hama hood on the end of stan's napkin ring and leave it there.

thanks again, stan.

regards,
dave

[StanStan]

DAVE WROTE: Stan,thanks for the VERY point on response. i think i got it - except for one thing... when you say that the napkin ring is useful for telephoto shooting, do you mean telephoto as in with an add-on telephoto lens, or telephoto as
in zooming 1x-12x?if you mean 1x-12x telephoto, then i understand completely. at 1x, i might need to roll back the hama hood 2 folds or all the way back to your napkin ring - as i go onger, i could/should open the folds.if you mean puting on a whole other lens, then i'm confused. with a new lens on, i would think i would go phayee>no filter, but step ring (if necessary)>NO napkin ring>telephoto lens>hama hood? if that's the case,
i don't see myself doing that anytime soon. i think 12x should hold me for a while... my only saving grace is that every once in a while i take a good picture. my last camera was just stolen so i'm looking for a new one. i've done a lot of reading on a lot of forums and websites. so i'm hopeful that once i get set up properly with a fz20 of my own, well, maybe i'll get a few more good photos. candid portraits are my thing.anyway, thanks again! your post was most helpful - i think it will go a
long way to helping out others too.
regards,
dave

Dave: I bought a FZ20 late last year and spent time on posting to get the feel of the camera and how/what for accessories the Pana. Genece helped me out so I believe I have the obligation to post my thoughts on the forums. I am now into Tele's and WA's and Macro's taking the suggestions from posts on the forums.

My previous post to you was for the FZ20 with no other Tele's/ WA's/Macros stacked. When I have the FZ20>Phayee lens adapter>62mm filter>Phayee napkin ring 72mm>Hama 72mm hood I push it back one step with the palm of your hand for shooting at 1x. I do not roll it back except for storage . I always keep the 72mm center closing cap on. I am paranoid about getting a lens scratched or getting debris into the lens barrel mechanism.

I trust this may be of help.
If you are not comfortable with your knowledge of ANY subject just POST again. That is the purpose of forums.
STAN

[del35s]

thanks again, stan. - i really appreciate your patience and willingness to share your knowledge. my new fz 20 and phayee are in the mail. i expect that i will be checking into more forums as other questions arise. thanks to folks such as yourself, there is quite a lot of specific, informative information out there.

next up: filters; a mc/uv and a polarized. i found this site in one of the forums: www.2filter.com anywhere else i might check for good basic info, differences between say uv 0 -1 -2a, etc?

thanks again,
dave

[StanStan]

thanks again, stan.
next up: filters; a mc/uv and a polarized. i found this site in one of the forums: www.2filter.com (http://www.2filter.com/) anywhere else i might check for good basic info, differences between say uv 0 -1 -2a, etc? thanks again,
dave

I bought mine from Phayee. A standard UV 62mm and a Pol LINEAR 62mm.
If you just placed your order, Rong Jain email him and get the 72mm corded center close lens cap and a lens cleaning cloth

[del35s]

i emailed him to see if i could add the 72mm corded center close lens cap and the cloth. i'll see what he says.

i got a hoya smc uv filter from www.2filter.com because it was a lot cheaper than B&H with no shipping charge and no tax. i think i paid 25.69 while b&h had them for 38.95. i don't think i could much better than that new. i'm a little dissapointed that 2filter.com doesn't have linear polarizers though...

i know i'll find it at B&H, but will i find it somehwere else cheaper sooner?

B&H was a great place to go to handle the camera, take some test shots - make sure the feel was for me. my saleman there even showed me briefly how to change focus modes. they were pretty helpful. i kind of feel bad that i didn't buy from them, but again, they were a lot more expensive. i don't feel so bad though - they were doing quite a lot of business in there. that place is like a factory!!

thanks again for the tip!

regards,
dave

[del35s]

I've heard that either type works on the fz's. any particular reason to use the linear rather than the circular? performance, cost? any thoughts on what differences i should look for in design and manufacturers? my budget is in the $30 or less range, so i'm not talking about the fancier filters so much, but i do wonder what the difference is. is there an on-line resource i should consult to learn this stuff?

-dave

[LoveLife]

i emailed him to see if i could add the 72mm corded center close lens cap and the cloth. i'll see what he says.

i got a hoya smc uv filter from www.2filter.com (http://www.2filter.com/) because it was a lot cheaper than B&H with no shipping charge and no tax. i think i paid 25.69 while b&h had them for 38.95. i don't think i could much better than that new. i'm a little dissapointed that 2filter.com doesn't have linear polarizers though...

i know i'll find it at B&H, but will i find it somehwere else cheaper sooner?

B&H was a great place to go to handle the camera, take some test shots - make sure the feel was for me. my saleman there even showed me briefly how to change focus modes. they were pretty helpful. i kind of feel bad that i didn't buy from them, but again, they were a lot more expensive. i don't feel so bad though - they were doing quite a lot of business in there. that place is like a factory!!

thanks again for the tip!

regards,
dave

Hoya linear polarizers are on eBay 62mm size $25.00 incl. shipping.

[del35s]

LoveLife, thanks for letting me know that you are selling hoya linear polarizers for a good price, but my question wasn't really where i could get one at a good price, it was:

I've heard that both circular and linear types work on the fz's. Is there any particular reason to use the linear rather than the circular? performance, cost? any thoughts on what differences i should look for in design and manufacturers? my budget is in the $30 or less range, so i'm not talking about the fancier filters so much, but i do wonder what the difference is. is there an on-line resource i could consult to learn this stuff?

They say that Linears don't work on auto focus lenses, but somehow, I think they DO work on the fz's. why?

-dave

[LoveLife]

LoveLife, thanks for letting me know that you are selling hoya linear polarizers for a good price, but my question wasn't really where i could get one at a good price, it was:

I've heard that both circular and linear types work on the fz's. Is there any particular reason to use the linear rather than the circular? performance, cost? any thoughts on what differences i should look for in design and manufacturers? my budget is in the $30 or less range, so i'm not talking about the fancier filters so much, but i do wonder what the difference is. is there an on-line resource i could consult to learn this stuff?

They say that Linears don't work on auto focus lenses, but somehow, I think they DO work on the fz's. why?

-dave

Linear polarizers do not work on mirror split beam TTL focus cameras.
The FZ is not that type.

[Paladin24]

The PD62 is made from Delrin which is a strong plastic type compound.
The PA62 is made from Aluminum alloy available in anodized black or silver, which is great is you have a silver FZ10, 15 or 20.

I personally like the Aluminium as it feels great when using the camera, solid and well engineered, and with very balanced weight. But as with everything it is down to your pref. :)

Hi all, from the new kid on the block! :)

FWIW.........................

I first bought the PA-62 for my black FZ-20. I returned it for the PD-62 (Delrin) for the following reasons:

[1] The weight of the aluminum changed the balance of the camera so that it became more "front" heavy.

[2] The PA-62 has a highly polished anodized finish which is in stark contrast to the semi-gloss finish of the camera.

[3] Sooner or later the adaptor will get dinged and/or scratched....if you use it a lot....and the Delrin will stand up much better to such damage. It's pretty hard to re-anodize aluminum.

Up until this point in time, I've always chosen metal over plastic....when given the choice. However, the Delrin adaptor adds very little weight and matches the camera body very well.

I am a happy camper with this high quality adaptor and it was a pleasure to talk with Peter on the phone. As a matter of fact, I ordered a second PD-62 for my son! :D

My two cents,

PALADIN

[LoveLife]

You should have tried my CRing adapter it weights 2.2oz.

Hi all, from the new kid on the block! :)

FWIW.........................

I first bought the PA-62 for my black FZ-20. I returned it for the PD-62 (Delrin) for the following reasons:

[1] The weight of the aluminum changed the balance of the camera so that it became more "front" heavy.

[2] The PA-62 has a highly polished anodized finish which is in stark contrast to the semi-gloss finish of the camera.

[3] Sooner or later the adaptor will get dinged and/or scratched....if you use it a lot....and the Delrin will stand up much better to such damage. It's pretty hard to re-anodize aluminum.

Up until this point in time, I've always chosen metal over plastic....when given the choice. However, the Delrin adaptor adds very little weight and matches the camera body very well.

I am a happy camper with this high quality adaptor and it was a pleasure to talk with Peter on the phone. As a matter of fact, I ordered a second PD-62 for my son! :D

My two cents,

PALADIN

[Paladin24]

You should have tried my CRing adapter it weights 2.2oz.
Three reasons for not doing so:

[1] 2.2oz.-vs-1.5oz (Delrin)

[2] The problem of scratching anodized aluminum.

[3] Pemaraal appears to be a smaller company and, as such, would be my first choice. :)

PALADIN

[dev]

4. I posted questions for both the c-ring and phayee adapters on e-bay about 3 weeks ago, and have yet to see a response.
I e-mailed the same question to Pemaraal and received an answer about 2 hours later...at 7 pm!
Now, maybe I screwed up somehow in the process with the e-bay interface (very possible, I have never actually bought anything from there), but it seemed pretty straighforward.