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CptOfGondor
06-05-2006, 08:29 PM
You all probably read several previews by now, so what are your thoughts?

Personally from a cost perspective, I can see why Sony choose to do what they did but even the newly annouced alpha lenses...all KM rebaged. :(

DonSchap
06-05-2006, 08:35 PM
Check out this link...

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20560

Enjoy the request for thoughts along this line. :D

polysigh
06-05-2006, 09:14 PM
You all probably read several previews by now, so what are your thoughts?

I think if they get it right (unlike their Clie's, the original Mavica), they might be able to do well... being the only company other than Canon to manufacture their own sensors *and* bodies. But only time will tell.


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CptOfGondor
06-05-2006, 09:19 PM
Geez, I would expect new SONY A100 developments to be found in the SONY Digital SLRs section. Its justifyable to see this in the general dSLR's thread but looking at the big picture, we aren't doing members, and especially newcomers a favour when it comes to joining the forums and asking questions about digital cameras. All the forum activity is concentrated into the top General Section and the Canon Digital and Digital SLR Camera Sections. People see the lack of response in the manufacter sections further down the alphabet and are less inclined to post/ask there. Perhaps it even snuffs out potential digital camera choices because they see everyone praising Canon cameras like the S2/S3.

Basically, people are going end up develop a strong bias towards Canon because they see everyone else with going there and go on to drop some of the choices they originally had in mind.

Should try to honour all the other brands too. ;)

Maalak
06-06-2006, 06:55 AM
I've been visiting this site a long time, just registered for the forums :)

As someone who doesn't have an investment already in lenses and is thinking about getting a digital SLR for the first time, up until now I've been pretty torn between either the Rebel XT, the 20d or the d70s.

looking at the specs/price of the Sony Alpha compared to those 3, I'm very seriously considering going with this instead. I don't really care so much about the difference in megapixels (thanks to the informative posts I found here on the subject dispelling my preconceptions about how much of a difference it makes :) ) ... but the built-in image stabilization, the anti-dust features, the eye sensor AF system and the improved manual control knobs from the KMs make this a very compelling argument to someone who's just starting out and will likely only buy 1 or 2 lenses in my first couple of years.

polysigh
06-06-2006, 07:41 AM
I'm just surprised Sony is releasing their initial offering on the former 5D body/platform as opposed to the 7D. Some have suggested this is to "bait" new users on a less expensive body first and then slowly build them up with accessories, lenses, and ultimately better bodies in the future. What do you guys think?

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DonSchap
06-06-2006, 07:56 AM
Looking at Canon's Naming methodology offers no clue... it's completely backwards and weird!

eos 300D
eos 350D
eos 10D
eos 20D
eos 30D
eos 5D
eos 1D
eos-3
eos-1

But yeah... I was kind of curious as to what happened for the planned "KM-9D" which never saw production. Could this be the real "Ace-in-the-hole" for SONY? The Canon "Full Sensor"-buster?

Only the Shadow knows, I surmise... muahahahahaha :D

bubble.tea
06-19-2006, 11:43 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/petawawa/post%20your%20pics/DSLRA100_fl_1.jpg

hey how come no pictures yet :)

These are from the Sony.com Site. I think this camera looks really slick. (complete SLR virgin here people) so be nice :p

some guy
06-20-2006, 02:55 PM
Looks like you have to use the main coloud LCD to read the settings. Talk about unnecessary power consumption. I'm waiting for the model that I can hook my PSP to it so that in b/t shots I can play my favourite Sonic.

JTL
06-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Geez, I would expect new SONY A100 developments to be found in the SONY Digital SLRs section. Its justifyable to see this in the general dSLR's thread but looking at the big picture, we aren't doing members, and especially newcomers a favour when it comes to joining the forums and asking questions about digital cameras. All the forum activity is concentrated into the top General Section and the Canon Digital and Digital SLR Camera Sections. People see the lack of response in the manufacter sections further down the alphabet and are less inclined to post/ask there. Perhaps it even snuffs out potential digital camera choices because they see everyone praising Canon cameras like the S2/S3.

Basically, people are going end up develop a strong bias towards Canon because they see everyone else with going there and go on to drop some of the choices they originally had in mind.

Should try to honour all the other brands too. ;)There are solid, well-defined reasons why Canon is popular, and in the DSLR world, in some respects superior. To discount that is to live in a fantasy world...

neilgarratt@msn.com
06-27-2006, 06:10 AM
I've been visiting this site a long time, just registered for the forums
As someone who doesn't have an investment already in lenses and is thinking about getting a digital SLR for the first time, up until now I've been pretty torn between either the Rebel XT, the 20d or the d70s.

looking at the specs/price of the Sony Alpha compared to those 3, I'm very seriously considering going with this instead. I don't really care so much about the difference in megapixels (thanks to the informative posts I found here on the subject dispelling my preconceptions about how much of a difference it makes :) ) ... but the built-in image stabilization, the anti-dust features, the eye sensor AF system and the improved manual control knobs from the KMs make this a very compelling argument to someone who's just starting out and will likely only buy 1 or 2 lenses in my first couple of years.
Hi Maalak-my first try to reach this site-agree with ur views.neil:cool:

Leo S
06-28-2006, 05:07 AM
Hi, can't find anything about the picture quality around? Have I missed something?

Anyway, from what I've seen of example pics from the Sony A100, I must say it's quite disappointing. Check these links out:
http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/sonya100_preview/
and a swedish site for photographers:
http://www.fotosidan.se/clindh/alfa/

At dpreview, D200 pics in my view seems a :eek: of a lot better than the Sony. Comparing at original size of course. And one can't blame it all on the kit lens either, I think.

Any thoughts on this?

Maalak
07-03-2006, 03:16 PM
Hi, can't find anything about the picture quality around? Have I missed something?

Anyway, from what I've seen of example pics from the Sony A100, I must say it's quite disappointing. Check these links out:
http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/sonya100_preview/
and a swedish site for photographers:
http://www.fotosidan.se/clindh/alfa/

At dpreview, D200 pics in my view seems a :eek: of a lot better than the Sony. Comparing at original size of course. And one can't blame it all on the kit lens either, I think.

Any thoughts on this?

the Nikon d200 is a more expensive camera... so I wouldn't really be too surprised if it too better pictures. Personally I don't think the shots from the first dppreview gallery look bad at all, but I'm more wondering if those were taking with pre-production models?

I don't know, I'll still be waiting anxiously to see the comparison galleries once it's actually released. :)

Gopher
07-03-2006, 04:17 PM
Hi, can't find anything about the picture quality around? Have I missed something?

Anyway, from what I've seen of example pics from the Sony A100, I must say it's quite disappointing. Check these links out:
http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/sonya100_preview/
and a swedish site for photographers:
http://www.fotosidan.se/clindh/alfa/

At dpreview, D200 pics in my view seems a :eek: of a lot better than the Sony. Comparing at original size of course. And one can't blame it all on the kit lens either, I think.

Any thoughts on this?
Agreed, nothing impressive about those shots. Problems though, look like they could be photographer / lens related.

privard
07-11-2006, 09:06 AM
I've been putting off buying into a system until the reviews on a production alpha are in, but so far it looks like the noise is going to be a killer issue for me (I shoot a lot of low-light). And it's too bad because otherwise the alpha looks like exactly what I want--that built-in IS is really tempting. I guess I'm just hoping for a miracle between the preview cameras and the final production ones. If Sony doesn't fix the noise until the next camera, it'll be too late for me--I'll already be too invested in Canons by then. I'm not as concerned about the lack of sharpness some sample shots have shown because that's probably just a difference in the in-camera sharpening setting rather than a weakness of the image-acquisition system, and I'd just as soon handle sharpening myself in Photoshop.

Gopher
07-11-2006, 01:40 PM
I get the feeling that CCD is inherently noisier than CMOS.

I recently spoke with a satellite astronomy engineer who concurred. It wasn't his speciality but he mentioned he was getting a CMOS based camera for his own astronomy photography (20Da). This is how rumors start, I know.

I too was hoping for more from this camera.

DonSchap
07-31-2006, 08:26 PM
Noise may not be that big a factor.

Check this link --> Link to review (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra100/)


Examining the reviewer's last three sample shots of the final lens... comparing ISO-400 to 800 to 1600... IMHO, I found them well within tolerances... and after eyballing them at 200%, I have to disagree about his findings. There is no dramatic threshold. In fact, I wish we all could get shots with only this level of noise at ISO-1600. Gee whiz... :rolleyes:

I'd venture to say that if you do not need the "expanded" ISO-3200 (H) {Custom Function-08} on the EOS 30D... this camera looks like it could save you $300+ and throw in the "Super SteadyShot" for free. That represents a virtual savings of $300 per lens on glass you may already own. Awesome... just awesome.

Highly Recommended? I'd have to ask... why bother recommending anything else for a newbie?

Heck, for a mere $900 (the average cost of a single IS-equipped Canon lens)... it gives all my old and great Minolta glass... a new lease on life! That's like... way cool! :cool:

krzkrzkrz
08-01-2006, 01:41 AM
Hi, can't find anything about the picture quality around? Have I missed something?

Anyway, from what I've seen of example pics from the Sony A100, I must say it's quite disappointing. Check these links out:
http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/sonya100_preview/
and a swedish site for photographers:
http://www.fotosidan.se/clindh/alfa/

At dpreview, D200 pics in my view seems a :eek: of a lot better than the Sony. Comparing at original size of course. And one can't blame it all on the kit lens either, I think.

Any thoughts on this?

In regards to: http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/sonya100_preview/

In my opinion, the image quality doesn't at all look bad. I don't know why you would say this. Compared to the 30D, the image quality in the Sony A100 stands out quite nicely


PS. theres also a review at: www.cameralabs.com for the A-100

Gopher
08-29-2006, 01:18 PM
In regards to: http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/sonya100_preview/

In my opinion, the image quality doesn't at all look bad. I don't know why you would say this. Compared to the 30D, the image quality in the Sony A100 stands out quite nicely


PS. theres also a review at: www.cameralabs.com for the A-100
What the heck? Someone painted the back side of that red helecopter purple! You can see a part of it just peeking over the top!

Not to be blamed on the camera though. Must have been the kit lens. :cool: