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yuppicide
05-15-2006, 09:17 PM
I had a Canon S2 IS when it came out. I loved it with the 12x zoom built in. One thing that I wanted, though, was the ability to have more zoom when I wanted, and a hotshoe for better flash and not stupid slave flash.

I sold the camera and just recently bought a Digital Rebel XT with 18-55 lens it comes with. I haven't received it yet, but have some questions:

I've never show in RAW mode before. A lot of times I've taken pictures with my old camera and touched them up. I've posted some online and let others touch them up as well. What they see and what I see are to different things sometimes, so to me that is saying I don't know what to touch up and am not doing it right. So onto question 1 and 2:

1 - Will Photoshop process Canon's RAW files or will I need some sort of plug in?! I don't usually like using programs that come from the manufacturer, but I will admit Photostitch is pretty nice.

2 - Is working with a RAW file hard?! Will I just end up with unrealistic looking photos?! I'd really like to use RAW if it will provide me with that much better quality pictures.

I haven't bought a memory card yet. I'm looking at a 2GB (maybe 4GB) model, high speed. Which brings me to questions 3 and 4:

3 - What is the fastest speed the Canon can utilize fully?! I see 40x, 80x, and even faster cards.

4 - What brands are good price and reliable?! I need something for a good price because I just spent a lot of money on the camera itself.

Lastly, I want to shoot a lot of band photography. Inside clubs where it's usually dark. A lot of times with my S2 IS I'd get red eye. A lot of times I'll also get too dark of a picture with the stock flash and if I turn the ISO up it gets grainy. Which brings me to my last two questions:

5 - My friend has some expensive camera equipment. He has this flash that goes on a hotshoe, it has a soft white round shaped bulb on top. It can be angled as well. Do I need one with the soft white thing on it for shooting bands?!

6 - The angled flash is so you can get rid of redeye in your photos, right?! Where do I point it at say if the singer of a band is in front of me?! Do I just direct the flash towards a side wall or something?!

yuppicide
05-15-2006, 09:26 PM
I saw this with description of a Sakar bounce flash for my camera:

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=SAK736AFC

Would that be any good or would I be looking for something more powerful?!

Does something like that angle in all different directions if I want to bounce off a ceiling or a side wall, say?!

JTL
05-15-2006, 09:51 PM
I saw this with description of a Sakar bounce flash for my camera:

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=SAK736AFC

Would that be any good or would I be looking for something more powerful?!

Does something like that angle in all different directions if I want to bounce off a ceiling or a side wall, say?!My advice...don't "cheap-out" on the flash. You will most likely get inconsistant results, as the camera's metering system and the cheap-o flash might not play well together. Canon's E-TTL-II works like magic...might I suggest that you go for the Canon 430EX...

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CN430EX

aparmley
05-15-2006, 10:45 PM
1 - Will Photoshop process Canon's RAW files or will I need some sort of plug in?! I don't usually like using programs that come from the manufacturer, but I will admit Photostitch is pretty nice.



Yes it will, Photoshop Elements and CS2 will Process RAW files, at the most, you'll just have to update the RAW support file.



2 - Is working with a RAW file hard?! Will I just end up with unrealistic looking photos?! I'd really like to use RAW if it will provide me with that much better quality pictures.



RAW is not hard, I suggest Real World Raw by bruce fraser, he'll bring you up to speed and The RAW mystery will be revealed. I think I actually process less now - perhaps a function of my increased ability to get things how I want before I hit the shutter button!



5 - My friend has some expensive camera equipment. He has this flash that goes on a hotshoe, it has a soft white round shaped bulb on top. It can be angled as well. Do I need one with the soft white thing on it for shooting bands?!

6 - The angled flash is so you can get rid of redeye in your photos, right?! Where do I point it at say if the singer of a band is in front of me?! Do I just direct the flash towards a side wall or something?!

I'll attempt to answer the last two now.

The purpose of that soft white round shaped bulb thing on top is to diffuse the light, make it less direct. The angled flash's purpose so that you can control the direction of the light that hits your subject, its useful to "Bounce" the flash to make it appear more natural and not so direct and harsh. A hotshoe flash is the way to go, 550EX, 580EX, 430EX.

Shooting low light will not only require high ISO use but also expensive lens use - Theres plenty of threads here to entertain yourself if you do a simple search. . .

For memory cards I can't answer you speed question fully, I have three 80X cards and they do just fine. Ridate, Kingston, Sandisk are the top three, Lexar is popular but with some of the issues they have had in the past, I imagine most people steer clear for that reason alone.

yuppicide
05-16-2006, 06:30 PM
Thanks for all the help so far. One person here and another told me to get a Canon flash and I see that's a good idea. They're made to go together and synchronize with the camera well.

By doing some research one thing I learned is that you get the long flashes and brackets because you want the flash about 12 inches away from the lens or focal point I guess to get rid of red eye.

Here's some photos I shot with the S2 IS in the venue I mainly goto. I think some came out pretty good:

http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35435176-L-1.jpg
http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35435180-L-1.jpg
http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35409906-L-1.jpg

I am pretty proud of some of my photos. The above ones were meant to look that way and taken without a tri or monopod of any type. Just me standing there.

Here's some shots from another venue:

http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35453764-L-1.jpg
http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35453766-L-1.jpg

That venue had a lot more light than the first venue. I really like how the sepia looks with those two.

Here's a shot I took at the train station in the dark. These came out pretty good for my first time trying this. I used a tripod on these.

http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35436613-L.jpg
http://yuppicide.smugmug.com/photos/35436617-L.jpg

I have more on my photo site: http://yuppicide.smugmug.com if anyone cares to see. Almost everything on there was shot with the S2 IS with the exception of a few galleries. Those fireworks on the site were done by simply turning on fireworks mode on the camera, no tripod of any type. I was amazed.

aparmley
05-16-2006, 06:42 PM
Having an external shoe mounted flash will eliminate red eye, I never get red if I flash with the 550EX, but I really never flash direct as that is the worst way, IMHO, to use flash. From my understanding, the only purpose the flash bracket will serve is eliminating the "Flash shadow" if you need to use direct flash.

timmciglobal
05-16-2006, 07:17 PM
Get a lightsphere 2.

Been playing with mine for a bit, it's amazing.

Even direct flash with the dome works very well.

Tim

yuppicide
05-16-2006, 10:06 PM
I'm probably going to get the 430EX. I looked at the 580EX, but it's too expensive.

Man, I am so mad today.. I bought the Digital Rebel XT in black. I really want black. I paid the person 7 days after the auction ended and I had let him know before I bid that I'm paying on the 12th. I get ahold of him today because he said he didn't receive payment (he did infact) and he says they're out of black and only have silver. He says they relisted the black one, don't have anymore, and get 80% silver in stock and hardly any black.

Why does Canon even make Silver? It's so ugly. Every accessory (flash, lens, booster grip) they're all black!

Oh well, my silver should be here tommorow..

yuppicide
05-17-2006, 02:40 PM
Got my camera today. It's freakin sweet. I was taking a few pictures with no memory card.. you can only see them on the screen for a few seconds, but it was cool.

Anyway, will it hurt my camera if I accidentally took one picture without the lens on?

timmciglobal
05-17-2006, 02:59 PM
Will it hurt it? No. Is it a good idea? No. Lens off attracts dust onto the sensor, you want to keep lens on as much as humanily possible and when you do change lenses change them with the camera body pointing down in a somewhat dust free enviroment (it's impossible to get dust free, but the saw dust covered garage might be a worse spot then say, the kitchen)

Tim

yuppicide
05-17-2006, 07:03 PM
One more thing.. this is my first SLR. Does that mean I can ONLY look through the viewfinder to take pictures? There's no way to have LCD on while I move the camera around or that'll be "lag" from what the viewfinder really sees?

cdifoto
05-17-2006, 07:11 PM
One more thing.. this is my first SLR. Does that mean I can ONLY look through the viewfinder to take pictures? There's no way to have LCD on while I move the camera around or that'll be "lag" from what the viewfinder really sees?

The LCD isn't for composing phots at all. It's for image review and navigating the menus.

cwphoto
05-17-2006, 08:37 PM
One more thing.. this is my first SLR. Does that mean I can ONLY look through the viewfinder to take pictures? There's no way to have LCD on while I move the camera around or that'll be "lag" from what the viewfinder really sees?

Yep, welcome to 'real' photography.:p

yuppicide
05-19-2006, 10:00 PM
I figured as much. It just take a little bit to get used to that's all.