S2 IS adapters 52mm, 58mm or both? Why?

[TJG]

I recently purchased my S2 IS and I am enjoying it very much. Still have much to learn. This is my first digital camera and I bought it because of the amazing optical zoom and the fact there are just enough features you can tweak, but not be too overwelmed. My wife and I are going to be taking a trip to Hawaii in June and I am trying to learn as much as possible before we leave. I am interested in adding different filters, like uv and a polarizer, for what I am sure will be beautiful scenery. I am a little unsure of what size adapter to purchase. Should I get both? What is the benefit of each size?

Thanks

[JTL]

The Canon conversion lenses require a 58mm adapter and most 3rd party converters require/work best with a 52mm adapter. The Canon converters, while outstanding optically, lack front threads (a terrible oversight!) so you can't use a polarizer (or other filters) with them.

There's tons of info at the Lensmate site, here: http://www.lensmateonline.com/newsite/S2.html

[TJG]

JTL,
So do you think I could get by with the 52mm and a variety of filters? Right now I am not interested in converters that will be down the road. I have enough on my plate.
Thanks
TJG

[BowerR64]

52mm for sure. You can get a 52-58 step ring if you want to get the canon converter later.

[vince0501]

I too was looking at the accessories on the lensmate site. I am still unsure of what I need. Hopefully, the experts here can clarify.
I think I understand that the lens which comes with the S2 can not accept filters or polarizers.(lack of threads.)
Right now I do not want any additional lenses, I was just thinking of the polarizer and or U/V filter. So do I just purchase the adapter, and does that fit over my existing lens? Then at a later date, I can purchase the additional zoom lens? Do I need anything else to make this fit? Also where do I get a lens hood, and do I need one.
PS(not trying to hijack your thread, just thought the questions are related.):)

[Shosta]

I bought 58mm at Lensmate to use with the Canon teleconverter.
I must say that if you shoot with the sun at the front sometimes you can see reflections coming from the border of the adapter.
So, If you don't need the teleconverter, 52mm.
Regards
José Miguel

[BowerR64]

There is a few people on e-bay selling the adapter and hood with a cap that is 52mm. Just search S2 52mm adapters you will see em. I think the one i got were from "Fotodiox" The 52mm looks like the same one on lensmate. It fits good and comes with the hood for like $20. Then you can just order the filter you want or get the 3 filter kit like i got. I only use the PL filter though but if you get the one with 3 you can play around with the different filters.

I ordered 2 more of the 52, one of the raynox 52 and 2 of the 58s from gadget infinity. I should be getting the raynox in anytime. I got it because its black and looks like a solid tube, doesnt have the perferations.

[TJG]

Thanks for every ones advice. I am going to get the 52mm for now. Leaning toward the lensmate. I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I would rather spend a pinch extra now, then replace a something of lesser quality later. Thanks again
Cheers

[BowerR64]

I got the 58 first from lensmate and i like it alot, then got a cheap 52mm because it looked cool and it is the same quality. They are both metal, both have the same color and both fit the same. The lens mate is good but ive ordered more and i went with the e-bay ones since.

Ive ordered 2 of each so ill let ya know how they are.

The lensmate 58 looks better then any other 58 ive seen so far. The lesnmate 52 looks the same as all the other 52s sept canons and raynox. The raynox doesnt have the little taper, I like that.

Im not knocking lensmate but its just a tube. I wanted a hood thats why i got the 52mm with the hood.

[TJG]

Thanks BowerR64,
Let me know how the new ones are I will check around on ebay a little before I make a finale decision. I just posted pictures for the first time. They are on the "wild life thread". Please check them out and let me know what you think. I hope it worked right.
Cheers

[CptOfGondor]

I had a question about the lensmate converters. Can you screw them onto like regular SLR lenses?

Like onto a 28mm wide angle to make it 18.48mm or something like that?

[BowerR64]

The lensmate is just a tube. The tube has special tabs that connect it to the body of the camer, then the buisness end has standard threads for filters or telephoto or wide converters. They are just adapters

The converters can be used on cameras, video cameras or SLR lenses. It just adds to the wide or the zoom. Usualy 60% telephoto gain and a little less with wide. I think like 40% gain in wide if that.

The adapters snap onto the camera and fit around the stock lens that move in and out.

Its like a hopup

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/BowerR64/Camera/Adapter.jpg

[vince0501]

just to see if I have it right. I want a polarizer and or filters right now. I order the lensmate 52 mm or 58 mm adapter and filters. I put the lensmate "tube" on the S2, then the filters attach to the tube? Also, do I need both adapters, if I eventually want both a tele lens and a wide angle lens? Thanks for any input.

[BowerR64]

I know it seems confusing, it was to me at first also because i just didnt understand it all till i got the parts. If you look in your manual in page 157, it tells you there is a button on the front of the camera. You push that button and hold it, then you turn the front ring on the front counterclockwise and remove it. This exsposes the 3 clips the adapters fit into.

Here is the thing. All of the canon converters for the S2 use 58mm threads. The canon adapter "La-Dc58E" is a black plastic 58mm adapter. 58=front threads on the adapter. The TC-58B telephoto lens is 58mm, and the wide angle lens for the S2 is also 58mm. So if you plan to get those eventualy you want the 58mm adapter tube. You can get them from anywhere and anyone. Canon, lensmate, e-bay who ever its your pick. If you want to use filters you can get them in 58 and 52 so thats not a problem either.

The problem is the 58 causes some flash shadow.

examples of flash shadow
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/BowerR64/Camera/E18myass.jpg

Thats with the 58. The 52mm does it a little but you bairly notice it. I would recomend the 52mm for now with filters. Later get the 58 with the add on lenses. The way i see it is you will use the filters alot and probobly leave them on most of the time. The add on lenses cause some barrel distortion and you will probobly take them off and on more then the filters.

I decided to put the telephoto on the 58 and just leave it and put the filters on the 52 and leave it. Then all i have to do is just swith out the tubes when i needed. Like an SLR user does with different lenses. Screwing on and off the different attachments takes more time and you can miss a shot.

Just my opinion :D

[babynoob]

Is it possible to use the Canon WC-DC52 wide converter and the TC-DC52A teleconverter with the canon s2? Can they fit on the 52mm adaptor?

Thanks

Mingwei

[CptOfGondor]

I think that they should because the model numbers are tagged "52". Check with the store first!

[BowerR64]

They may fit but i dont know if they will work.

I have a TC-DC58 just DC58, not the N, A or B and it doesnt work. It fits my adapter fine but its not in focus. It seems only the 58B will work on the S2 so i would bet its the same with the wide lens.

If you go to the canon site they have all the adapters marked wich are compatable with wich cameras.

[babynoob]

Does anyone know any other brands of wide angle converters that can work with canon s2? Some pictures would be nice

[JTL]

Does anyone know any other brands of wide angle converters that can work with canon s2? Some pictures would be niceI would only go with ones proven to work and work well...info here:

http://www.lensmateonline.com/newsite/S2.html

[Voyager13b]

There seems to be a lot of support for the various metal adapters available for the S2, but the plastic Canon offering is a better deal. It's stronger, it won't deform on impact like metal, it's lighter, and it is more dimensionally stable than aluminum. If it does break, it will have cracked. A crack can be rigged to save the day. A bent aluminum tube is garbage.

As for the 52-58 mm question, I think 58 offers more flexibility in the long run. There are some 52 mm conversion lenses that seem to work great with the S2, and in that case, simply buy a 52 mm adapter for that lens. No matter which size you use, you should buy one adapter for each accessory lens you own anyway. One member pointed out that the 58 mm adapter can cause a shadow during macro photography. True, but so does the 52 mm adapter to a certain degree. In any event, macro shots are best made with lighting other than the built in flash, so that should not be a problem at all. Normal flash photography is not hindered at all by having a 58 mm adapter and filter mounted on the S2.

Voyager