A reminder about conduct

[Jeff Keller]

I just had to ban someone for insulting other users. Let this serve as a reminder that all forum readers are to be treated with respect. Those who fail to follow that simple rule will be banned.

[cdifoto]

Hmmm... that's a first ever for a non-spammer isn't it? Good to know it wasn't me that got the boot though! :eek:


PS: Permanent ban or just a temporary suspension?

[sw2cam]

I see many one post spammers on this site. I hope I don't get banned for bringing it up.

[Jeff Keller]

I see many one post spammers on this site. I hope I don't get banned for bringing it up.

You have as different definition of "spammer" than I do. If somebody logs on to ask about a problem with their camera, I don't think they're a spammer (even if it's their first post). Now, if they come here strictly to troll, posting nonsense like "Canon sucks" or "don't buy Kodak cameras" and it's their first post, that's another story.

If anyone sees a post that looks suspicious, please flag it by using the little "!" icon in the message.

[Rhys]

Yes. I notice one-post spammers too - people who come on, advertise and vanish.

[sw2cam]

Yes Rhys I see the same thing. But what ever it's called spamming or trolling. or just plain BS, I see alot of one time posters doing just that. Have also seen a post from someone with many posts that says DO NOT BUY HP. Oh and I think I have seen something like don't buy HP or KODAK in many areas of this forum. I know one brand camera I'll never buy again but I'd not want to be banned for saying anything negitive about it.

[Rhys]

Yes Rhys I see the same thing. But what ever it's called spamming or trolling. or just plain BS, I see alot of one time posters doing just that. Have also seen a post from someone with many posts that says DO NOT BUY HP. Oh and I think I have seen something like don't buy HP or KODAK in many areas of this forum. I know one brand camera I'll never buy again but I'd not want to be banned for saying anything negitive about it.

I can say negative and positive things about virtually every camera manufacturer and be right in both respects. I'm always wary of people who start topics such as "don't buy X" as that's usually sour grapes but in a free world we have to allow them space to vent. In any case, their vents can be interesting and informative in that they highlight flaws that might not otherwise be obvious.

[sw2cam]

I guess there is so little thats really good being talked about that we are left to talk about what should have been removed the day it was posted.

[Vich]

I think the banned user in question was in clear violation of good intent and Jeff's clearly in support of free speach and honest expression of opinion and feelings, and even a generous amount of "directness", within the limits of decency.

If its who I think it is, I haven't seen anyone here even come close.

[Rhys]

I think the banned user in question was in clear violation of good intent and Jeff's clearly in support of free speach and honest expression of opinion and feelings, and even a generous amount of "directness", within the limits of decency.

If its who I think it is, I haven't seen anyone here even come close.

I think I know who it was too and I can't think of a worse carbuncle.

[sw2cam]

Oh you two think you know who was banned. Is it against the site rules to say who it was or do you have to be promted into saying. Well hey I was the one that was banned for replying to posts asking questions about one brand of camera. I never came in here and posted junk. I gave my experience and named the brand and model and got banned for it. I also said other things that were not accepted by long time members. I did ask to be reinstated as a member, and I said I would never mention that brand again. Then when I come back to this site I chose one area to hang out. I noticed it always said there were many viewers. Yet the thread view count never went up. The posts in the area never went up. I also nioticed many threads started by some outstanding members with one post that dissed brands. I read posts that said they did a google search. They said in that search they found so many people having problems it was almost unreal (or what ever the words were). Yet when I did a search on four brands and four model numbers of cameras I found they all had about the same amount of problems. Yet the dissing posts are left in the forum. I just think it's funny how one sided things are here. I do not find this sort of thing go on at Steves or DP review. Not evan at Byte or Imaging resource. Thats ok this is not my site and I'll now return to one area of the site and keep my mouth shut. Then again I may be banned again.

[ReF]

Oh you two think you know who was banned. Is it against the site rules to say who it was or do you have to be promted into saying. Well hey I was the one that was banned for replying to posts asking questions about one brand of camera. I never came in here and posted junk. I gave my experience and named the brand and model and got banned for it. I also said other things that were not accepted by long time members. I did ask to be reinstated as a member and I said I would never mention that brand again. Then when I come back to this site I chose one area to hang out. I noticed it always said there were many viewers. Yet the thread view count never went up. The posts in the area never when up. I also nioticed many threads started by some outstanding members with one post that dissed brands. I read posts that said they did a google search. They said in that search they found so many people having problems it was almost unreal (or what ever the words were). Yet when I did a search on four brands and four model numbers of cameras I found they all had about the same amount of problems. Yet the dissing posts are left in the forum. I just think it's funny how one sided things are here. I do not find this sort of thing go on at Steves or DP review. Not evan at Byte or Imaging resource. Thats ok this is not my site and I'll now return to one area of the site and keep my mouth shut. Then again I may be banned again.

dude get over it. if you like steve's or DP that's fine. but don't come here and talk crap about this site AND disrespect the guy who's running it cuz that's just plain rude.

[sw2cam]

Get over what. I'm just stating facts, and observations.

[Vich]

Get over what. I'm just stating facts, and observations.I'm a little confused what you're upset about .... hua? (the hua? is retorical, not actually looking for an answer).

Anyway, I just don't speak my thoughts (about who was banned) because it's just speculation. Other sites I've been on choose to announce who they ban. 6 to 1, half a dozen to another (ie: no matter).

Un-moderated sites tend to collect some immature posters that degrade it all to some teen-aged banter and an unwelcome return to High School yard talk. Thanks to Jeff for "keeping the streets clean". Nobody's perfect, but if someone regularly trashes other members or is generally bent on degrading our nice community then good riddens.

Anyhow, Jeff pays the bills so it's his rules we all play by. I think he's doing a wonderful job of it. This is what "The Internet" promises - daily and immediate serious engagement with people worldwide on a worthy topic.

[DonSchap]

When opinions become damaging, rude and contrary to the spirit of good order... then obviously, it is a disservice to the other participants to do nothing. Obviously, there was a serious breach of the spirit of good and fair participation that took place. Remediation was meeted out and we are where we are.

I suggest for the benefit of all future episodes and persons involved, that questionable behavior be reviewed prior to submission and if there are serious underpinnings, they be offered for review by the moderator, prior to being put forth. That's the price of membership you said you would observe, prior to joining the forum. :D

Let's enjoy the benefits of sharing and quality time... because when you come away from this party... it should be to your benefit... and above all, improve your ability to...

GET THE SHOT!

[Jeff Keller]

Well hey I was the one that was banned for replying to posts asking questions about one brand of camera. I never came in here and posted junk. I gave my experience and named the brand and model and got banned for it.

I don't know why you keep repeating this. Your username or IP address have never been banned as far as I know.

[ReF]

I don't know why you keep repeating this. Your username or IP address have never been banned as far as I know.

LOL that's totally random :D

[D Thompson]

I don't know why you keep repeating this. Your username or IP address have never been banned as far as I know.
Maybe you should, just for the giggles of it. :D

[sw2cam]

Keep repeating this.............I said it ONE time. Unless my IP address changed with my server every time I came to this site it said I was banned.
Maybe it was a computer glitch. Banning for giggles is always a fun thing to do.

[Rhys]

You could have a dynamic IP address. I suffered a dynamic IP for years. Now I have a static IP although I actually more access to several IP addresses via IP masking.

[sw2cam]

Static IP, Dynamic IP..........I don't know one from the other, and I guess I can do nothing about it as I only have one cable provider in the area.

[Vich]

Static costs more, usually reserved for businesses. It means they (your provider) assigns an IP Address that never changes.

Generally; your IP address stays in the same range for DSL and Cable users, and for most setups, it often stays exactly the same.

A range would be the first 3 octets the same, ie: xxx.xxx.xxx and only the final .xxx changes. For example: You might have 34.152.111.xxx, where xxx may change from time to time.

A notable exception is AOL Broadband and dial-up users. They're sort of all over the map. Also; some cable companies may just use the first 2 octets to define "a network neighborhood".

So you could have a neighbor (someone in the same cable neighborhood of about 500 to 1000 users) who has been banned. Every once in a while you get their IP. You could ask Jeff to un-ban all the IPs matching the same first 3 octets.

In any case; it's not Jeff's fault and there's no cause to direct upset his direction. It's just an unfortunate coincidence.