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1andyw
03-13-2006, 08:47 AM
Trying to learn a new to me FX20. I am supprised by the amount of noise in this photo. This camera is capable of much better quality, is that true?

Andy

genece
03-13-2006, 09:45 AM
Well let me say something....That was shot at ISO200 and 1/400 sec shutterspeed....when I would think it could have been shot at 1/250 sec. and ISO100....For one thing.

But I do not see much noise in the posted photo unless I blow it up...and the size is strange so I am not sure how you resized the photo... sometimes the way a photo is resized can be a problem.

Can you include a link to the original photo?

But the FZ20 will have noise at ISO 200.

1andyw
03-13-2006, 10:28 AM
Gene,

http://www.mhanp.org/images/FZ20Test.jpg

I cropped the original to upload to DC.

Thanks for your interest.

Andy

gwhizkids
03-13-2006, 10:47 AM
Now, I am no expert, but I had to look REAL hard to see any noise in either version of the photo (so hard, I had to make sure the problem wasn't dust on my laptop screen).

IMHO, I think people expect too much from this technology and expect the images to be just like their own eyesight. There probably aren't too many cameras out there (film or digital) that would yield a completely noise free image at the size of the original (via the link).

jcon
03-13-2006, 12:40 PM
When I viewed the original photo and fit to screen, it was sharp and noise free, the resized image posted in your original post does have alot of noise, but thats from being resized, I believe. No reason to veiw a photo bigger than your screen can handle unless you need to look at a detail for something. Its a nice photo taken with a nice camera. I agree with Gene, however, you could have shot that picture differently.

Phill D
03-13-2006, 01:47 PM
It looks a pretty good shot to me & I bet it would print pretty well even at A4 size. If it had been me I would have shot it at iso 80 as there seemed to be plenty of light & you have a still subject. I try to use 80 as a standard & only increase it when I have to. That way if you want to crop a lot you can.

genece
03-13-2006, 02:31 PM
The original really is a pretty nice photo....and just to crop that much is where the problem lies ....If you were to use something like Windows resizer to resize the photo instead of cropping...After all thats what the zoom is for.
Or you could upsample in 10% incrediments to achieve enough resolution to crop to that size.

This is just leaving the MS power toy resizer do the resize.

1andyw
03-13-2006, 05:39 PM
Thanks for the input, folks.

I can see that I erred in my f-stop setting. Could have gone up 2 stops and still had good speed. I have to watch that in the future.

Your help is appreciated.

Andy

LoveLife
03-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Really not that bad. Here is a crop enlargment. You should have shot this ay ISO 80 1/125 f2.8 or so. i did some nise clean-up and color level.
http://lovelife.smugmug.com/photos/60154538-L-1.jpg

LoveLife
03-16-2006, 02:27 PM
Thanks for the input, folks.

I can see that I erred in my f-stop setting. Could have gone up 2 stops and still had good speed. I have to watch that in the future.

Your help is appreciated.

Andy
You need to stay at 80 or 100 ISO in overcast pictures.