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fleeper
10-10-2004, 06:53 PM
I would like to be able to take an action shot of some gymnastics in a gym that is not well lit. I cannot use the flash, and I would like to use the burst mode.

When I place the camera in sports mode the pics are clear but very dark. What settings could I use under the PASM setting (manual settings) to accomplish this?

Thanks in advance for any help or tips.

Fleeper

Atindra
10-16-2004, 01:52 PM
I think you are talking about 7590, you have to choose sports mode or, M mode with small f-(ie, 3.0, 3.6 etc) and faster shutter speeds, about 1/250 or 1/350 with higher ISO, try with 100 and 200. All the time you have to fire the flash, but if distance is too high than it wont work.
Atindra

Cold Snail
10-17-2004, 08:43 AM
Use S mode, try ISO 200 and select the longest speed that you can get away with. (at a guess 1/350 before people start to blur)
Leave the aperture up to the camera, as it always tries to be as fast as the zoom allows.

When you get into the room, fire out some test shots to see if things look good on the screen and if things are a little dark you will have to drop down to 1/125 or increase the ISO to 400 to stop motion blur.

The problem with the higher ISO is the increased noise that it produces, you can clean it up in Neat Image or Helicon Noise Filter, but it does soften the image, so you will have to sharpen things up as well.

Can you post an example of your pictures so we can see how dark things are?

All the best.
Paul.

fleeper
10-22-2004, 11:04 AM
how do i load pics here? I tried the upload button, but the maximum size allowed is very small.

fleeper

fleeper
10-23-2004, 07:18 PM
here are some of the pics I have tried. They are a bit dark and blurry. Any tips would be appreciated.

http://www.ofoto.com/ShareLandingReg.jsp?Uc=heuvlxa.j0rvmf2&Uy=-uucn5j&Upost_signin=BrowsePhotos.jsp%3fshowSlide%3dtrue&Ux=0&UV=889337182568_15455689406


Fleeper

Atindra
10-24-2004, 02:30 AM
Hi Fleeper Saw your photos,
Can you load them to photobucket.com, to upload here? What kind of settings did you use? What were the ISO and shutter speed?
Atindra

fleeper
10-24-2004, 04:39 AM
i do not have a photobucket account.

fleeper

Atindra
10-24-2004, 09:13 AM
Photobucket and Darwinonline are free gallaries. They give 150 MB and 200 MB space respectively.
Atindra

fleeper
10-24-2004, 05:06 PM
i cannot seem to get to www.darwinonline.org---the site is down---and photobucket is not accepting free accounts at this time.

fleeper

fleeper
10-31-2004, 04:24 AM
Ok Atrinda,

I made an account at darwin---here is the link to a few photos that I am trying to improve upon. THanks for any tips.

http://www.darwinonline.org/index.php?cat=10478

Fleeper

Cold Snail
10-31-2004, 06:27 AM
Ok Atrinda,

I made an account at darwin---here is the link to a few photos that I am trying to improve upon. THanks for any tips.

http://www.darwinonline.org/index.php?cat=10478

Fleeper


No exif data in the shots. (We need this to help)
Looks like a DX6490 to me due to the pixel count.

fleeper
10-31-2004, 06:36 AM
It is a DX 6490 kodak---what is the data that you requested?

fleeper

Cold Snail
10-31-2004, 08:19 AM
This is EXIF data.

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/5413/Image550.jpg


From this.

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/5464/100B0022Small.jpg


As we can see, the ISO was set at 400, the aperture was at it's widest and the shutter was only at 1/45. The room looks presentable, but not the person.

Without using flash, this is about as far as you can take the DX6490, as ISO 800 pushes the camera into 1mp mode and even then the shutter will be only 1/90 tops for the same amount of light.

This is DSLR territory where you can get away with ISO 1600 maybe even 3200 at a push and still come out with a clean image the other end (After some post processing), as long as you are using a decent fast lens.


The only other suggestion I could make is, the flash aimed straight from a camera would put the competitors off, but what about an external set up which could be deflected or at least softened.