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Mike C.
10-07-2004, 08:07 AM
Seems impossible to get a remote for my FZ20 (Panasonic could not even find the part number in there system).

This same remote is a standard accessory on the DMC-LC1. Does anyone have this remote that can put a meter on the jack and find out what terminals do what?

I can only assume (since I have not seen one) that there is a 3 contact stereo jack on the camera end. I am guessing one contact would be common, one contact makes when the button is half down and the onter contact makes when it is full down (or both contacts close when full down ?)???

If I can't get this remote it would be easy enough for me to build if I could get the wiring diagram.

Thanks ..... Mike :)

John_Reed
10-07-2004, 08:18 AM
Seems impossible to get a remote for my FZ20 (Panasonic could not even find the part number in there system).

This same remote is a standard accessory on the DMC-LC1. Does anyone have this remote that can put a meter on the jack and find out what terminals do what?

I can only assume (since I have not seen one) that there is a 3 contact stereo jack on the camera end. I am guessing one contact would be common, one contact makes when the button is half down and the onter contact makes when it is full down (or both contacts close when full down ?)???

If I can't get this remote it would be easy enough for me to build if I could get the wiring diagram.

Thanks ..... Mike :)Fred Moore (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=10062292), a contributor to dpreview's "Panasonic Talk" forum, has your answer.

Janet
10-07-2004, 09:43 AM
Fred Moore (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=10062292), a contributor to dpreview's "Panasonic Talk" forum, has your answer.

Fred was saying that you could substitute a Pansonic remote from a different modal for the FZ 20 remote. Is there anyone on this forum that has tried it?

Janet

genece
10-07-2004, 02:21 PM
I can attest to the fact that the remote Fred Moore was talking about does indeed work with the FZ20, as I have one.

Janet
10-07-2004, 05:29 PM
I can attest to the fact that the remote Fred Moore was talking about does indeed work with the FZ20, as I have one.

I will order one today!

Janet

10kzoom
10-08-2004, 11:49 AM
I ordered and have one from Panasonic. Ordered it under the 'accessories' list for the "DMC-LC1".

The part number used to order it is "VYC0913", "wired shutter remote cont", "$14.98";
and the part has "Panasonic DMW-RS1" marked on it.

Mike C.
10-08-2004, 12:41 PM
Ordered the part today.

Was able to order it under part # DMW-RS1 (through the operator).

Part is on back order till November 18.

Thanks ... Mike

Janet
10-09-2004, 06:08 AM
How long is the shutter release wire?

Janet

Sentinel
11-18-2004, 06:58 AM
OK, here's what I found.
Bought a 2.5mm stereo jack plug plugged it into the remote socket, and switched the camera on.
Checked all three terminals of the remote with a digital multimeter, but zero DC and AC voltage on all three combinations.
I also checked for hidden digital activity using an oscilloscope, but nothing
Also tried shorting the terminals together, but no shutter activity, so with zero volts on the terminals, how does it work? The remote doesn't have batteries, does it? I'm stumped.
Perhaps the socket doesn't take a standard 2.5 mm plug?
Does anynone out there have one of these beasties they could measure for me (and hundreds of others)?
BTW, Panasonic Australia has never heard of the remote, and after trying everywhere, I have ordered it from Computeruniverse in Germany, but they're out of stock. HHHEEELLLPPP!!!

Sentinel
11-18-2004, 07:04 AM
As a follow-up, I've just found out that LEICA also can supply this part. The remote release is Leica Order No. 18 626

Where now?

Sentinel
11-23-2004, 07:13 AM
Seriously, folks, does anyone have a remote that they could describe (or photograph) the plug of and run an ohmmeter over the terminals for me? The info would be really useful.........

Gunny
12-23-2004, 06:32 AM
Seriously, folks, does anyone have a remote that they could describe (or photograph) the plug of and run an ohmmeter over the terminals for me? The info would be really useful.........

Merry Christmas everybody....

After nights and nights searching and wondering how the heck to create my own Remote Shutter for FZ20, I found this website:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_1.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_2.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_3.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_4.html

I hope you guys can read French :p

Anyway, the diagram should explain all. The rest, use your own creativity. I have personally tested this just now and IT WORKS! Woohoo... less than 5 bucks for DIY version.... beats that, Panasonic.....

For this, you need a 2.5mm jack with 4 tips, the one that they normally use for Nokia handphone earpiece. This baby is expensive, 3 times more expensive that the 3 tips one (normal stereo 2.5mm jack). Start looking folks.... :D :D :D I was lucky enough to find this together with two way push swithc, exactly like shutter release switch in local electronic parts center.

Cheers,
SG

Grog
12-24-2004, 12:48 PM
:) I just ordered a remote for my camera from panasonic. The new part no. is VYC0913 wired shutter remote cont. 14.98 plus sales tax and shipping. They or on back order right now. They say they will be available 01/09/05. I also got the UV Filter DMW-LMC72 also on back order available 02/18/05, total was 68.35 for both.

Grog :cool:

vazerhino
12-24-2004, 01:21 PM
and it arrived in the mail yesterday.

ShutterLuck
12-24-2004, 02:45 PM
Merry Christmas everybody....

After nights and nights searching and wondering how the heck to create my own Remote Shutter for FZ20, I found this website:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_1.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_2.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_3.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.m-c/html/FZ20_4.html

I hope you guys can read French :p

Anyway, the diagram should explain all. The rest, use your own creativity. I have personally tested this just now and IT WORKS! Woohoo... less than 5 bucks for DIY version.... beats that, Panasonic.....

For this, you need a 2.5mm jack with 4 tips, the one that they normally use for Nokia handphone earpiece. This baby is expensive, 3 times more expensive that the 3 tips one (normal stereo 2.5mm jack). Start looking folks.... :D :D :D I was lucky enough to find this together with two way push swithc, exactly like shutter release switch in local electronic parts center.

Cheers,
SG
I ended up using a standard 3 tip plug. I found that if I didn't plug it in quite all the way, it worked fine. So I put a thin ring of insulation material around the base of the plug to keep it from being inserted all the way.
BTW, I didn't make a hand operated switch. I hooked the switch closure input to a X-10 universal module and now I can use the computer or X-10 controller to do stuff like time lapse photos and trigger pictures when X-10 events happen. Geeky but fun!
--Dave

24Peter
12-24-2004, 08:07 PM
:) I just ordered a remote for my camera from panasonic. The new part no. is VYC0913 wired shutter remote cont. 14.98 plus sales tax and shipping.
I also ordered the VYC0913 remote on-line today - but I have a couple of questions: there is a separate listing for the DMW-RS1 remote and a higher price - $26.95 (http://www.pasc.panasonic.com/epartr/PartsList.asp). Is this a different remote? Also, do these wired remotes have same function as the shutter button on the camera, i.e., if you push it half-way, does it activate the auto-focus, etc.?

rschofield
12-26-2004, 06:54 AM
I also ordered the VYC0913 remote on-line today - but I have a couple of questions: there is a separate listing for the DMW-RS1 remote and a higher price - $26.95 (http://www.pasc.panasonic.com/epartr/PartsList.asp). Is this a different remote? Also, do these wired remotes have same function as the shutter button on the camera, i.e., if you push it half-way, does it activate the auto-focus, etc.?

1) If you try to order the DMW-RS1, when you check availability you will be redirected to the VYC0913 at the lower price.

2) Yes, the remote has a single shutter button that supports half-press focus and full-press capture.


Dick

arghman
12-26-2004, 09:06 AM
Interesting... I can't read French but Babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr) does a passable job. if I ever have any spare time (I'm an electrical engineer) I'll try to figure out how to do something wireless (e.g. keyfob + small gizmo that plugs into the fz20), though that would take me at least a year, and I betcha you could get this quicker & cheaper by pleading w/ Panasonic.

I looked around for 4-conductor plugs & came up blank but did find a plug/cable assembly at Digikey:
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?KeywordSearch?MPart=CA-254S&site=us
http://www.cui.com/pdffiles/cnct_456_CA-254s.pdf

arghman
12-26-2004, 09:15 AM
Aha, a plug from Mouser (although good luck soldering to it...). FYI both Mouser and Digikey are very reputable businesses, though more aimed at businesses than at hobbyists.

http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?handler=displayproduct&lstdispproductid=226172&e_categoryid=329&e_pcodeid=01701
http://www.mouser.com/catalog/specsheets/104853.pdf

Gunny
12-27-2004, 04:28 PM
The 2.5mm jack that I got is slightly different than the one Mousser sells... the inside is different. I saw that model as well, but was thinking, man, it would be a pain to solder a small cable to those small connectors....

If you are interested, here are some photos of my initial test and current version of the remote:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gani76/album?.dir=90c4
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gani76/album?.dir=1e0d

Decided to use two switch since it gives me more flexibility rather than "feeling" the half press and full press of the cheap shutter release switch imitation every now and then.... The focus switch is a toggle push switch. So, I can point to my subject to get meter and focus necessarily, press the button once (and leave it connected), take my time and both free hands to recompose, grab the remote again and fire the second push-on switch. The only small drawback is then I need to press the focus switch again after the shot to release it. But I'll get use to it.....


Cheers,
SG

StanStan
01-27-2005, 08:25 PM
The 2.5mm jack that I got is slightly different than the one Mousser sells... the inside is different. I saw that model as well, but was thinking, man, it would be a pain to solder a small cable to those small connectors....

If you are interested, here are some photos of my initial test and current version of the remote:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gani76/album?.dir=90c4
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gani76/album?.dir=1e0d

Decided to use two switch since it gives me more flexibility rather than "feeling" the half press and full press of the cheap shutter release switch imitation every now and then.... The focus switch is a toggle push switch. So, I can point to my subject to get meter and focus necessarily, press the button once (and leave it connected), take my time and both free hands to recompose, grab the remote again and fire the second push-on switch. The only small drawback is then I need to press the focus switch again after the shot to release it. But I'll get use to it.....


Cheers,
SG

Would you show a wiring diagram for your device?

Thank you

StanStan

Tucson Bill
02-08-2005, 12:55 PM
If anyone still cares, here a page with pix and schematic of the wired remote.

http://www.spanburgh.com/The_Remote/

Good luck.

jjmazet
02-11-2005, 11:33 AM
Here is the good link (in french) for building your own remote ;
http://www.geronimo-web.tk/
click on galerie photo and tÚlÚcommande versions
3 versions of the remote , very easy to built and then find an elegant plastic box to put around ( I use a big marker)
the 3d version is nice cause you can
either chose to click on the first button and then the second ( it means , autofocus then shutter release)
either only the second if your FZ20 is in manual focus.
Spareparts ; -original plug to fit the FZ 20= Nokia phone ear piece
(dont open the plug , cut the wire, than with a volmeter find where is 3 and where is 4, then mount an RCA hifi female plug on it)
-resistances and buttons in your local electronic shop(cheap)
Once you have tested your remotewith your voltmeter, plug the 2 wires on another RCA hifi female plug)
You can then join the 2 parts with any length of RCA male male plug you desire.
If anybody works on an IR or radio remote, please tell!I try, but difficult...

rschofield
02-11-2005, 03:38 PM
If anybody works on an IR or radio remote, please tell!I try, but difficult...

For those interested in an RF wireless remote for the FZ20, LC1, or Digilux 2, I will be beta testing one soon. It is not a kit, nor a homemade gerry rig. (Is that the right term? I never understood if it was "Gerry Rig", "Jury Rig", or whatever.) And it is not particularly cheap. But if it all works out the way I expect, it is a really nice piece of equipment that these cameras deserve.

I'll post an update in about a week.


Dick

StanStan
02-12-2005, 05:45 AM
I built a wired remote for my FZ20. The Pana control has three resisters in series, 39k,[ used 36k] 2.7k, 2.0k I used a 2.5mm four conductor plug from a handless cell phone attachment which had the wires connected to the third and fourth ring from the pointed end. $1 from a dollar store. For the half push of the shutter short out the 36k resistor. For full short out both the 39k and the 2.7k leaving the 2k in the circuit at all times. Resistor values do not seem to be critical. Used a 36k instead of the 39k. For a box I used a plastic ring box that my wife gave me. 1.5" X 1.5" x 0.5 inches. Hot melted two low profile push to the top on a diagonal. I touch the first switch with the bottom of my thumb knuckle and then touch the other with my thumb. The resistors and switches were from my junk collection. I. E. Total cost $1.00! Works perfectly

Just received a 4 channel wireless control. EBAY at 18.50$. Intend to push the shutter with a solenoid to 'wake' up the camera with one channel. Another channel to short out the 36k resistor [for half push] and the third to short out both the 36K and the 2.7k [full push] leaving the 2k resistor in the circuit at all times.

The next project would be to receive the display remotely. Any ideas out there?

Tyler
02-12-2005, 06:20 AM
The next project would be to receive the display remotely. Any ideas out there?

Laptop + WiFi?

StanStan
02-12-2005, 07:12 AM
Seems impossible to get a remote for my FZ20 (Panasonic could not even find the part number in there system).

This same remote is a standard accessory on the DMC-LC1. Does anyone have this remote that can put a meter on the jack and find out what terminals do what?

I can only assume (since I have not seen one) that there is a 3 contact stereo jack on the camera end. I am guessing one contact would be common, one contact makes when the button is half down and the onter contact makes when it is full down (or both contacts close when full down ?)???

If I can't get this remote it would be easy enough for me to build if I could get the wiring diagram.

Thanks ..... Mike :)

You need a 4 contact.2.5 mm jack from a handless cell phone attachment to fit FZ20. Wires goto 3rd and 4th contact from pointed end. The point is contact one. $1.00 from dollar store. See my post #25 above. I have an old multimeter and see no voltage on wires to 3rd and 4th contact. Camera must measure resistance some how.

Tyler
02-12-2005, 08:15 AM
[QUOTE=I have an old multimeter and see no voltage on wires to 3rd and 4th contact. Camera must measure resistance some how.[/QUOTE]

Did you by any chance try measuring it in the low AC volt setting with your meter?

gary_hendricks
02-12-2005, 08:34 AM
I can attest to the fact that the remote Fred Moore was talking about does indeed work with the FZ20, as I have one.

A friend of mine can attest to that too

StanStan
02-12-2005, 12:31 PM
Did you by any chance try measuring it in the low AC volt setting with your meter?

Borrowed a better meter and got 2.5 VDC across the jack contacts 3 and 4.

Just finished my wireless remote. I tried it at 100 ft and it works!!!!!!!!
The ad said the range is 1000 feet.

Used the relay output to short out the resisters as in my post #25 this thread.

The three resistors are in series across contact 3 and 4 [2.5 VDC here]

Channel A shorts out the 36K resistor, half push, and channel B shorts out both the 36 K and the 2.7 k resistor, full push, leaving the 2K resistor in the circuit at all times.

I want channel C to wake up the camera by pushing the shutter using a solenoid. Have not found one as yet

jjmazet
02-13-2005, 04:35 AM
Hi stanstan
do you have a link to your item and ebay, and a plan of your installation?
looks great!

StanStan
02-13-2005, 08:36 AM
Hi stanstan
do you have a link to your item and ebay, and a plan of your installation?
looks great!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5954463703&ssPageName=STRK

The construction is very very simple.
The receiver has 14 screw type terminals: [+] [-] Here I used two quad "AA" battery carriers to provide the 12 volts. Wired them in series and to the [+] [-].

There are another 12 terminals: Three each for the 4 relays: 'common', normally closed, normally open. Channel A: Terminal 8 is 'common', 9 is normally open.
Channel B: 11 is common, 12 is normally open

To 8:
contact 3 of the 2.5 mm jack [from a hands free cell phone adapter:
dollar store $1.00].
one lead of the 36k/39k resistor [measured vs marked]
a jumper to 11.

To 9:
one lead of 36k resistor
one lead 2.7k resistor

to 11:
jumper from 8

To 12:
lead of 2.7k
lead of 2.0k

To free end of 2.0k:
wire to contact 4 of jack

There are four very small wires. One to each of the four contacts. Use 3 and four only. Contact 1 and 2 must not be connected to 3 or 4. Contact one being the point.




The resistance measured across jack contacts 3 and 4
is 36 + 2.7 + 2.0 = about 41k.

Press A to short the 36k. Resistance is 2.7 + 2.0 = 5k

Press B to short both 36k and and the 2.7 k = 3k

Contacts 1 and 2 must be open at all times!!!

I plan to use Channel C to wake up camera by pushing the shutter. Channel D to move lens to 12X

Want 'power on' LED and 4 more LEDs for the four relays

WIRELESS SKETCH FZ20 A.jpg (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=242&stc=1)

jjmazet
02-13-2005, 09:17 AM
What a wonderful answer!

Don't know if it's possible to move zoom with the remote,
I'll try to mount your model as soon I receive the 4 channel remote.
I found this one, cheaper, hope it'll work
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3873348475

Do you know what is the utility of the plugs 1 and 2 on the jack in th FZ20??? ; is there anyvoltage outthere, do you think they are connected to zoom control or to on/off of the camera( they are not used in the original panasonic remote but perhaps they intend to comercialize a wireless, and so the connections are previewed??? I don't dare to open the FZ....)

Thanks from France...

StanStan
02-13-2005, 02:07 PM
What a wonderful answer!

Don't know if it's possible to move zoom with the remote,
I'll try to mount your model as soon I receive the 4 channel remote.
I found this one, cheaper, hope it'll work
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3873348475

Do you know what is the utility of the plugs 1 and 2 on the jack in th FZ20??? ; is there anyvoltage outthere, do you think they are connected to zoom control or to on/off of the camera( they are not used in the original panasonic remote but perhaps they intend to comercialize a wireless, and so the connections are previewed??? I don't dare to open the FZ....)

Thanks from France...

If a remote can control a toy car's wheel to turn many times it should be possible to turn a little dial a few degrees. I plan to use a tine solenoid to turn the zoom lever. Another solenoid to push the shutter button.

My plan is to focus the camera on a target area and wait for the 'target 'to appear. I am not too happy to be near the camera at this time for safety reasons. Use one channel to push the shutter button to wake up the camera. When awake use another channel to turn the zoom lever to zoom to 12x. Another channel to half push to focus and the final channel to take the picture.
One shortcoming of the FZ20 is that it retracts the lens when shutting down. It requires a manual push on the shutter button to turn on the camera. The previous focus is 'lost'. Therefore the above procedure is necessary; to awaken the camera, place the lens at 12x, focus the camera, and 'shoot'

As to the 1st and 2nd contact I do not know what they are for. Don't know if Pana has any future plans. I'm unwilling to experiment with the camera's innards too.

Glamourdiesel
02-13-2005, 02:24 PM
I just received an original one through panasonic.co.uk. It's not too expensive I guess and it's damn useful if you shoot a lot with tripod. They took a while to have them back in stock though.

jjmazet
02-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Pretty good idea , your procedure looks fine. Would be better by a purely electronic way ( the zoom and shutter buttons transmit electric impulse)
But whitout any plan, and without unmounting the button ( woops!) the solenoids look an elegant way to go through this problem.
Mounted on the shutter release and zoom control button, they could be placed in a little round box.
I'll try to get electronic plans of the FZ to know if plug 1 and 2 are connected to something, I'm curious...
There's a nice guy in Bordeaux , which works for Panasonic France warranty service, i'll ask him ...and keep you informed!

StanStan
02-13-2005, 02:55 PM
Pretty good idea , your procedure looks fine. Would be better by a purely electronic way ( the zoom and shutter buttons transmit electric impulse)
But whitout any plan, and without unmounting the button ( woops!) the solenoids look an elegant way to go through this problem.
Mounted on the shutter release and zoom control button, they could be placed in a little round box.
I'll try to get electronic plans of the FZ to know if plug 1 and 2 are connected to something, I'm curious...
There's a nice guy in Bordeaux , which works for Panasonic France warranty service, I'll ask him ...and keep you informed!

I used an RC with relays so there would be complete electrical isolation between the receiver and the camera. Emailed the seller for the other control, without relays, but did not receive any data for the output interface. If the other two contacts have some control I would like to know. May simplify my design greatly. Need to use the wireless control so I'll have to leave the camera on and eat up batteries till I get the solenoids to wake up the camera and zoom. May rig up a power supply for the FZ
Crossed my mind to use two very long strings with pulleys. Worried about moving the camera. Oh well!
What I have done so far really works nicely. Oh: the camera still functions.
Good point.

StanStan
02-13-2005, 05:49 PM
What a wonderful answer!

Don't know if it's possible to move zoom with the remote,
I'll try to mount your model as soon I receive the 4 channel remote.
I found this one, cheaper, hope it'll work
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3873348475

Do you know what is the utility of the plugs 1 and 2 on the jack in th FZ20??? ; is there anyvoltage outthere, do you think they are connected to zoom control or to on/off of the camera( they are not used in the original panasonic remote but perhaps they intend to comercialize a wireless, and so the connections are previewed??? I don't dare to open the FZ....)

Thanks from France...

The seller sent me this:

sorry to make you confuse.
the output is positive + 5V.

I would use some reed switches in this case to short the resistors.

jjmazet
02-13-2005, 10:17 PM
//////Need to use the wireless control so I'll have to leave the camera on and eat up batteries till I get the solenoids to wake up the camera and zoom. May rig up a power supply for the FZ
Crossed my mind to use two very long strings with pulleys. Worried about moving the camera. Oh well!
What I have done so far really works nicely. Oh: the camera still functions.
Good point.//////

Personnally, I use an ACDC converter 7,5 V + inside 500mA ( in fact an old adapter for Kenwood walkman!!!) that works well:
I think you should get one of these type ( 7,2 V to 7,5V DC, + inside, not sure about the mA), so it economizes a selenoid, if you have AC near your FZ .
If there's no AC near the camera..please dont try to have a wifi, IR or radio controlled AC DC adapter!!!!! (I think you're able to do it....)
In this case you can have a 6*1,2 V NiMh LR6 battery pack near the FZ instead: somebody tried it in France, it works fine.
If it stays a long time, using batteries, you can easily command the on off of the custom made battery pack with C on the remote)
Congratulations, U won a solenoid! :)
I confirm 1 important point ; if the fz batteries are removed and ac/dc adaptor plugged, the fact to put ac to on "awakes" the FZ.

Concerning zoom command, why not use 2 solenoids, one "upzoom" and one"downzoom" ore 1 solenoid with a continuous movement from right to left, if it exists.
For remote vision of the LCD display, perhaps look at wireless webcam
on ebay... don't know if they have macro position for a good image.
And never forget that a frenchman invented photography;
was called Nicephore Niepce!

StanStan
02-14-2005, 06:11 AM
[QUOTE=jjmazet
Personnally, I use an ACDC converter 7,5 V + inside 500mA ( in fact an old adapter for Kenwood walkman!!!) that works well:
I think you should get one of these type ( 7,2 V to 7,5V DC, + inside, not sure about the mA), so it economizes a selenoid, if you have AC near your FZ .
If there's no AC near the camera..please dont try to have a wifi, IR or radio controlled AC DC adapter!!!!! (I think you're able to do it....)
In this case you can have a 6*1,2 V NiMh LR6 battery pack near the FZ instead: somebody tried it in France, it works fine.
If it stays a long time, using batteries, you can easily command the on off of the custom made battery pack with C on the remote)
Congratulations, U won a solenoid! :)
I confirm 1 important point ; if the fz batteries are removed and ac/dc adaptor plugged, the fact to put ac to on "awakes" the FZ.

Concerning zoom command, why not use 2 solenoids, one "upzoom" and one"downzoom" ore 1 solenoid with a continuous movement from right to left, if it exists.
For remote vision of the LCD display, perhaps look at wireless webcam
on ebay... don't know if they have macro position for a good image.
And never forget that a frenchman invented photography;
was called Nicephore Niepce![/QUOTE]

"I confirm 1 important point ; if the fz batteries are removed and ac/dc adaptor plugged, the fact to put ac to on "awakes" the FZ" Thanks for the tip! Simplifies the design. DO YOU KNOW WHAT JACK IS USED FOR THE EXTERNAL POWER SUPPLY AND THE POLARITY USED? I will use AA's to try it out. 5 * 1.5 = 7.5 volts. I will latch, [toggle], the output of one channel. Press for ON, press for OFF. "6*1,2 V NiMh LR6 battery pack " Do you know where to buy the parts? Batterys, charger, etc. Ebay?

What happens to the position of the lens if the external power is unplugged?
Does it stay extended? Also where is the lens after the power is restored.
I am hoping the lens stays where it was set and stays there upon restoring power. If this is true, focus may be retained!?

I will use a dual action solenoid to control the zoom. But did I run out of channels: Plug in power supply, Zoom to 12x, Focus, Fire, 5th: downzoom???
The "focus" and "fire" work now but I must leave the camera on to keep focus.

I like this forum for the help I to get.

Thanks again!

gary_hendricks
02-14-2005, 07:24 AM
I can attest to the fact that the remote Fred Moore was talking about does indeed work with the FZ20, as I have one.

Checked with a friend who owns the FZ20 - the Fred Moort one works.

jjmazet
02-14-2005, 10:45 AM
For stanstan
Personally, I bought a 6 pack empty case in a general french store called Castorama, and prefer 7,2 with NiMh(rechargeables).
To know the size of the plug , I tried the differents models on a DC DC car adapter , and found the good one.It was the one of the kenwood adapter ( a little luck, sometimes; about 4,7mm outside and 1,7mm for the hole)


The lens stays to 12*when external power is cut , but unfortunately to U , back to wide angle out of focus when power again ( with a strange noise...)

:confused:

StanStan
02-14-2005, 11:20 AM
For stanstan

The lens stays to 12*when external power is cut , but unfortunately to U , back to wide angle out of focus when power again ( with a strange noise...)

:confused:

I will wait to see if your friend at Pana repair has any info.

Thanks.

jjmazet
02-14-2005, 12:09 PM
[QUOTE=StanStan]I will wait to see if your friend at Pana repair has any info.

Saw you were interested on a swivel lcd.
Just tried a stupid( not so much...) thing for remote image; i have an emitter transmitter for TV ( to look an another TV without wires, think you'll find it for cheap in the states, mine was 20 $)
Just plugged the video out of the pana into the video in(RCA) of the emitter ( 12 V DC) and my small Sony tv on the receptor!
Works really fine, bigger image than a lcd ( but only for home cause AC on TV).
For me it's ok; I put my FZ in the garden near the birds with your wireless remote, I look at the image on the TV screen and I catch (still not found a solution for the zoom ; I think I'll find a watch mecanism with an excentric circle to push and pull the zoom button with only 1 solenoid to zoom in zoom out )
so ;A = battery pack, B zoom, C focus, D shutter release, all that while sitting in front of my TV catching the birds eating seeds while I drink a Bud to your health !!!!! great deal...
Should work with any screen with video cable.Think this type of screen with DC exists .
Perhaps this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11074&item=5750326329&rd=1

StanStan
02-14-2005, 01:54 PM
[QUOTE=StanStan]I will wait to see if your friend at Pana repair has any info.

Saw you were interested on a swivel lcd.
Just tried a stupid( not so much...) thing for remote image; i have an emitter transmitter for TV ( to look an another TV without wires, think you'll find it for cheap in the states, mine was 20 $)
Just plugged the video out of the pana into the video in(RCA) of the emitter ( 12 V DC) and my small Sony tv on the receptor!
Works really fine, bigger image than a lcd ( but only for home cause AC on TV).
For me it's ok; I put my FZ in the garden near the birds with your wireless remote, I look at the image on the TV screen and I catch (still not found a solution for the zoom ; I think I'll find a watch mecanism with an excentric circle to push and pull the zoom button with only 1 solenoid to zoom in zoom out )
so ;A = battery pack, B zoom, C focus, D shutter release, all that while sitting in front of my TV catching the birds eating seeds while I drink a Bud to your health !!!!! great deal...
Should work with any screen with video cable.Think this type of screen with DC exists .
Perhaps this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11074&item=5750326329&rd=1

Great idea which I will look into. Just need a portable DC LCD TV. Thanks

StanStan
02-15-2005, 03:52 PM
[QUOTE=StanStan]I will wait to see if your friend at Pana repair has any info.

Saw you were interested on a swivel LCD.
Just tried a stupid( not so much...) thing for remote image; i have an emitter transmitter for TV ( to look an another TV without wires, think you'll find it for cheap in the states, mine was 20 $)
Just plugged the video out of the Pana into the video in(RCA) of the emitter ( 12 V DC) and my small Sony TV on the receptor!
Works really fine, bigger image than a LCD ( but only for home cause AC on TV).


Looked all day for an emitter transmitter as you mentioned. Found all kinds of things but not one like you have. Many AC but no DC at a reasonable price. All spy stuff. Could you give me enough details so I could buy one

Found all kinds of hand held portable TVs like those used at sporting events.
Going to Circuit City to look at them. Need a small light one. Airlines are limiting luggage to 40 pounds without a surcharge. My wife says if I take my camera I won't have any pounds left for clothing.

Thanks

StanStan
02-17-2005, 12:26 PM
Pretty good idea , your procedure looks fine. Would be better by a purely electronic way ( the zoom and shutter buttons transmit electric impulse)
But whitout any plan, and without unmounting the button ( woops!) the solenoids look an elegant way to go through this problem.
Mounted on the shutter release and zoom control button, they could be placed in a little round box.
I'll try to get electronic plans of the FZ to know if plug 1 and 2 are connected to something, I'm curious...
There's a nice guy in Bordeaux , which works for Panasonic France warranty service, i'll ask him ...and keep you informed!

Have you had any success on the use of contacts 1 and 2 ?
I have not liked any of the transmitters I have looked at.
Will you let me know how you set it up and enough details so I may buy the same setup. Bought a small hand held TV.. Need TX to complete the loop.

Thanks

gary_hendricks
02-20-2005, 01:40 AM
Seems impossible to get a remote for my FZ20 (Panasonic could not even find the part number in there system).

This same remote is a standard accessory on the DMC-LC1. Does anyone have this remote that can put a meter on the jack and find out what terminals do what?

I can only assume (since I have not seen one) that there is a 3 contact stereo jack on the camera end. I am guessing one contact would be common, one contact makes when the button is half down and the onter contact makes when it is full down (or both contacts close when full down ?)???

If I can't get this remote it would be easy enough for me to build if I could get the wiring diagram.

Thanks ..... Mike :)

I'm in the same boat. Very difficult to find a remote for FZ20.

ChasPas
02-20-2005, 05:35 PM
I'm in the same boat. Very difficult to find a remote for FZ20.

I'm not a tinkerer, so manufacturing my own remote, as suggested by others, was out of the question. Shortly after I got my FZ20, I was also looking to buy the DMW-RS1 remote shutter, without much luck. After searching the various forums, I found the information that I was looking for in two places.

The first were posts 6 and 7 of this same thread (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1432). The second one was the posting at dpreview.com (http://http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=10061312). I followed the link in that post for the Panasonic Parts and Accessories (http://www.pasc.panasonic.com/epartr/PartslistChoice.asp?) web site and entered the DMW-RS1 part number. It was a backordered item and the price was $26.95. I entered the VYC0913 part number, that was mentioned in post 6 of this thread. It was also a backordered item, but its price was only $14.98.

For both items, the order page specified that the item was not expected to be in stock until the end of March. Having read 10kzoom's comments in post 6, I placed my order for the cheaper VYC0913. That was on 1/7/05, and according to the invoice the item was shipped to me on 1/31/05. It arrived about 2 to 2 and a half weeks ago.

What was interesting about this order is that the part listed in the invoice was for the VYC0913. Also, the item number, description and manufacturer stamped on the plain, manila colored box was the VYC0913, Wired Shutter Remote Control, Matsushita Electric Ind, Co., Ltd., which, if I am not mistaken, is Panasonic's parent company in Japan. The item shipped in the box, however, is stamped, DMW-RS1.

I'm only guessing mind you, but this all leads me to believe that these items are one and the same. The VYC0913 number is Matsushita Electric's internal part number for an item that is interchangeable among its various Panasonic products.

The remote looks and works pretty good. It has a three foot cord with a clip attached to its body. The relese button functions the same way as the one on the FZ20. Depressing it halfway engages the auto focus, while pressing it fully releases the shutter.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/lc1/lc1_dmw-rs1_remote.jpg
[shuttter shown on a Panasonic DMC-LC1 is from www.dpreview.com]

While, I can't say for certain, this item still appears to be in stock.

Chas

24Peter
02-20-2005, 05:46 PM
Chas - your analysis is entirely correct. Order the VYC0913 for $14.95 and you'll get the right one. It seems to always say "backordered" but I got mine in about 2-3 weeks.

jjmazet
02-21-2005, 12:37 AM
Have you had any success on the use of contacts 1 and 2 ?
I have not liked any of the transmitters I have looked at.
Will you let me know how you set it up and enough details so I may buy the same setup. Bought a small hand held TV.. Need TX to complete the loop.

Thanks

Sorry but holydays with my 2 kids does not permit any Panasonic tries...
My little Victor(3) had many fun with resistors, and my tall Raphael(11) says he prefers skiing rather than seing daddy on his Mac....
The guy in Bordeaux does not know the answer; I thing that plugs 1 and 2 are either with no utility (just to avoid people to build their remote, cause this type of jack is hard to find) or made to reinitialize the internal soft.
I only tried my TV system (ThomsonVS260 emitter rceptor) with the Pana on "reading images" but it works also for shooting(image in black and white)
I'll be back!

bchbmz
03-11-2005, 07:12 AM
somewhere on the web i saw a post regarding wireless remotes
it stated that any wirelss can be "retuned" to work using something called...PhotAssist (if i remember correctly)
I have not been able to relocate the post
but am VERY interested in trying this
I have a wireless remote from another camera-Olympus c-5060
it worked GREAT for that camera
Can anyone help me to reprogram this to work with my new camera??
thanks for any help
Dee
please email me
bchbmz@msn.com

kristy1129
03-29-2005, 08:31 AM
I was just reading through this forum and was wondering if any of you got a wireless remote to work with your Panasonic FZ20.
If so, what do I need to buy and how to I make it work! (Or are any of you selling one per chance?)
Thanks so much!!
Kristy

StanStan
03-29-2005, 08:53 AM
I was just reading through this forum and was wondering if any of you got a wireless remote to work with your Panasonic FZ20.
If so, what do I need to buy and how to I make it work! (Or are any of you selling one per chance?)
Thanks so much!!
Kristy

Do a search for 'wireless' on this forum. Find my 'FZ20 Wireless Shutter Sketch' and others for details on a wireless remote.

If you don't find them repost.

blueorb
03-29-2005, 11:23 PM
sorry may seem silly but can someone let me know pin config of 2.5 jack
thanx

StanStan
03-30-2005, 05:46 AM
sorry may seem silly but can someone let me know pin config of 2.5 jack
thanx

See my post: http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6185

Charlietuna
12-05-2005, 01:53 PM
I viewed your pictures with great interest. Do you have a schematic for the switch? I sure would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Steve

tealwoodlabs
12-22-2005, 05:42 PM
OK, I'm new to this forum, have been researching a new digital for a month, want to buy ASAP. I'm limited because I need a quality camera that accomodates a wired remote. I've finally fine-tuned my search to the Panasonic FZ30 or the Minolta DiMage A1 or A2. (Any advice along those lines??? I want a manual zoom ring and focus ring)

Before I order either camera, I need to be sure I can get a wired remote more than a couple feet long ... at least 5-8 feet. NO ONE at Panasonic can tell me the length of the DMW-RS1 (old) or VYC0913 remote, nor whether or not it's available.

I'm also trying to verify that I can get the RC1000L remote for the Minolta A1 or A2 (16.5' long), rather than the RC1000S which is only 20" long. (Any help there???)

Is there anyone out there that can help locate a suitable remote for either camera? I'll be using a tripod, probably setting up a perfect manual focus, so probably don't care about autofocus first or zooming ... just want to release the shutter. Actually, ideally I'd like to be able to rig it up so I could use a foot pedal on the floor to simply step on. (I'm a Labrador breeder, show my dogs, trying to get perfect show stacked pictures myself, just step on the shutter release.)

Or, any of you electronics wizards out there (StanStan???) that would be willing and able to build me one?

StanStan
12-22-2005, 07:28 PM
OK, I'm new to this forum, have been researching a new digital for a month, want to buy ASAP. I'm limited because I need a quality camera that accomodates a wired remote. I've finally fine-tuned my search to the Panasonic FZ30 or the Minolta DiMage A1 or A2. (Any advice along those lines??? I want a manual zoom ring and focus ring)

Before I order either camera, I need to be sure I can get a wired remote more than a couple feet long ... at least 5-8 feet. NO ONE at Panasonic can tell me the length of the DMW-RS1 (old) or VYC0913 remote, nor whether or not it's available.

I'm also trying to verify that I can get the RC1000L remote for the Minolta A1 or A2 (16.5' long), rather than the RC1000S which is only 20" long. (Any help there???)

Is there anyone out there that can help locate a suitable remote for either camera? I'll be using a tripod, probably setting up a perfect manual focus, so probably don't care about autofocus first or zooming ... just want to release the shutter. Actually, ideally I'd like to be able to rig it up so I could use a foot pedal on the floor to simply step on. (I'm a Labrador breeder, show my dogs, trying to get perfect show stacked pictures myself, just step on the shutter release.)

Or, any of you electronics wizards out there (StanStan???) that would be willing and able to build me one?

I do not know about the electronics wizard part but I did make DIY design for both a wired and a wireless remote sometime ago. Very easy to do. Just being able to use a soldering iron and a multimeter is enough to complete the remotes. In your case I would suggest the wireless remote. No wires for the dogs to get tangled into and may be used to 200 feet. If you build one why not both. The wire can be as long as you want. Mine is about 10 feet because I had a 10' piece of wire in my junk collection.
Let me know what direction you want to go?

I have a FZ30 and [FZ20 at least fo now] but I do not know the schematic for the other camera remotes. A poster from Norway took apart Pana's remote and let the world know the value of the three resistors and the two switches required.

Bought my FZ30 from CircuitCity.com for $480 plus NJ sales tax, no shipping charge. They have a 5 hour sale starting from 11am and I had a 15% coupon. Received it in three days.Just trying to get the toy to work. Have read the manual a few times and still miss details.

Stan

StanStan
12-22-2005, 07:54 PM
This is a picture of my contraption with my DIY tripod adapter to put weight [center of gravity] over tripod. Not nose heavy now!

Stanhttp://static.flickr.com/38/76452336_6c3e0f48e4_o.jpg

StanStan
12-22-2005, 08:12 PM
I used a 9vdc transistor battery for power and a 2.5mm 4 conductor plug and the wire from a hands free cell phone adapter from a dollar store. The transceiver is EBAY. Use one relay to short out the 39k resistor to focus and short out both the 39k resistor and the 3k resistor to release the shutter. The 2k resistor MUST be in the circuit at all times!!!! The smallest available resistor is OK. Resistor value is not very critical. Crimp connectors can be used instead of any soldering. I Velcro the receiver to the tripod for use. Works to at least 200 feet.

Stan

http://static.flickr.com/37/76455632_24432cdd4e_o.jpg

tealwoodlabs
12-22-2005, 10:35 PM
I do not know about the electronics wizard part but I did make DIY design for both a wired and a wireless remote sometime ago. Very easy to do. Just being able to use a soldering iron and a multimeter is enough to complete the remotes. In your case I would suggest the wireless remote. No wires for the dogs to get tangled into and may be used to 200 feet. If you build one why not both. The wire can be as long as you want. Mine is about 10 feet because I had a 10' piece of wire in my junk collection.
Let me know what direction you want to go?

I have a FZ30 and [FZ20 at least fo now] but I do not know the schematic for the other camera remotes. A poster from Norway took apart Pana's remote and let the world know the value of the three resistors and the two switches required.

Bought my FZ30 from CircuitCity.com for $480 plus NJ sales tax, no shipping charge. They have a 5 hour sale starting from 11am and I had a 15% coupon. Received it in three days.Just trying to get the toy to work. Have read the manual a few times and still miss details.

Stan

Thank you for the info, I may solicit your help if I end up with the FZ30.

Can you and/or anyone else out there offer help in comparing the PANASONIC DMC-FZ30 to the KONICA MINOLTA DIMAGE A2? I'm really having trouble weeding through all the reviews on the web and finalizing this decision.

Bill Markwick
12-24-2005, 12:50 AM
OK, here's what I found.
Bought a 2.5mm stereo jack plug plugged it into the remote socket, and switched the camera on.
Checked all three terminals of the remote with a digital multimeter, but zero DC and AC voltage on all three combinations.
HHHEEELLLPPP!!!

It's not a stereo plug - it's a 4-conductor as used on cell phone handsfree headsets. See this thread for complete instructions on building your own:
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342

It's a tad lengthy, but the schematic appears near the end. I'm the proud owner of a homebrew remote and it works perfectly.

Regards,
Bill