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gcmoryc
10-01-2004, 10:46 AM
I am deciding between the s410 and s500.
Am I correct in understanding that the CCD is the same in both - thereby the noise will be greater when shooting with s500?

Why would I want to have 5 megapixel vs. 4 magapixel?
I mainly will be taking pictures at home (baby pictures) as well as pictures of friends/family when travelling...

Please advise.

Mehnaz
10-04-2004, 09:15 AM
I just got the S410 and am kicking myself. This weekend, I went onto the Canon Powershot website and saw that they have released an improved model of this camera, the SD300. You may want to wait a few weeks to a month as this new camera has the same MP as the S410, but is somehow improved in picture quality and overall photo performance. Check out the official website.

olias
10-04-2004, 04:00 PM
Don't kick yourself. A few reviews have been coming in (on dpreview.com) from folks in Europe who have purchased the IXUS 40 (SD300) and aren't happy with the image quality. Smaller CCD can make for noisier images that also suffer from more purple fringing, so perhaps your S410 was the way to go.

red
10-11-2004, 09:15 AM
I just got the S410 and am kicking myself.
well, i got a s500 and i returned it because the sd300 is coming out.
i think i made a good choice because its cheaper and has better features. i figured that i wouldnt need 5mp,its for huge pictures,i just want regular pics.
you get more modes and it has a faster processer with the sd300.

mikos
10-17-2004, 09:54 AM
I'm am interested in getting one of them too...
Up to this date there is no rewiews (real test ect.) od ixus 40\SD300.
Differences between 410 and 500 is 4mp vs 5mp and (!) much better movie record mode! But, that's on expence of (much) noiser pictures. Practicly, 200 ISO is so noisy that you may not like it an sertenly 400 ISO noise result are (to me but not only!) unacceptable! 4mp seems to sort of "boarder" over which any compact or ultra compact (aspecialy Canon - without noise reduction) suffer from noise at ISO 200 and up.
Therefore I've decided, for myself, to choose 410 over 500.
Now, when ixus 40 is about to be realised I have to consider to choose between 40 and 410. But, ixus 40 IS NOT (!) a new model meaning successor of ixus 400! It is a step foward to it in a some way, though.
It uses new (better) Digic 2, there are some creative modes added, can record movies at full VGA and 30fps and is equiped with 2" LCD. But since it's a bit smaller uses SD memory instead CF - it may be inconvinient for someone already having another camera using CF (like DSLR) and\or CF memory.
This is new line of ixus not next generation of ixus 410\500. Keep in mind that ixus 410 had 4mp and 500 had 5mp sensor while SD200 has 3.2mp and (top model) SD300 has (only) 4mp nad Conon already eveloped 5, 7, and 8mp sensor for compat cameras. So if it should be a next generation ixus (succesor) we might excpect to to have them packed with 5 or more mp.
Maybe Conon decided that 4mp for such a small (meaning ultracompact line) cam is enough (which I agree with). Who knows ;)
Still I have some doubts about ixus 40\SD300 - take a look at tread:
"ixus 40 vs ixus 400"
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1621

red
10-18-2004, 03:10 PM
Conon already eveloped 5, 7, and 8mp sensor for compat cameras.

they made 8mp compact cams?can you show me?

mikos
10-18-2004, 04:33 PM
they made 8mp compact cams?can you show me?

Well, I ment Canon PowerShot Pro1.
It's not quite "compact" but it is not DSLR either ;)

Curious
11-02-2004, 03:22 PM
I've just been put in the position of choosing between the S410 and the S500 and I thought I'd try to get some opinions here. For my purposes, the S410 is probably more than sufficient for my needs (pictures at parties/attractions/outings) and I'm not likely to blow them up beyond 8.5x11, however, I'm not the kind of person to change cameras on a whim....I tend to use it for quite a while.

Anyway, some input would be appreciated. Thanks.

TheSkipper
11-11-2004, 04:18 PM
Get the S410 or S400. You know you need an S510 when you've identified that you'll be enlarging a lot of pictures beyond 11x14 or small cropped areas of a picture to 8x10 or more.
The S400 can be gotten at great savings over the S410 and you will never know the difference.

photocrazy
11-11-2004, 08:47 PM
I have S410, I like it. Dont know much about S500 though

red
11-14-2004, 05:37 PM
The s500 is probably the same as the s410,except the zoom(.5 more digital zoom I think),mp,and noise.(more)

Curious
11-14-2004, 08:13 PM
Well, just an update. I finally settled on the S500. As my brother pointed out, I'm the type of person who doesn't tend to upgrade a lot. That, coupled with the price difference, I chose the S500. The few shots I've taken with it (so far) have been pretty good. A little red-eye is about all I've had to deal with. Overall, I'm very pleased with the purchase (although I forgot to go buy some LCD protectors).

Now I just have to RTFM and start shooting a few more shots.

goshambo87
04-03-2005, 05:08 PM
I am deciding between the SD300 and the S500 (both cannon digital elphs)
would the red eye any better one or the other? They are very similar cameras.

JTL
04-03-2005, 05:53 PM
I am deciding between the SD300 and the S500 (both cannon digital elphs)
would the red eye any better one or the other? They are very similar cameras.
S500: Not too bad as far as red eye is concerned...
SD300: A red-eye creation machine...

Read Jeff Keller's reviews of these cameras...

GlennD
04-05-2005, 07:19 AM
I considered the new SD models as well as the S500 and purchased the S500. It's for my wife who complained about the G1 being too heavy.

I was most concerned about the reports of noise with the S500. Well I can tell you they are not true! Of course I always process my images through DPP and Photoshop and my work flow includes Noise Ninja no matter whether the photos are from my P&S cameras or my DSRL. I have printed 13 x 19 enlargements from the S500 and the extra resolution really shows up there.

Another thing I was concerned about was a lot of reports of broken 2" LCDs on the newer SD cameras. These are not covered by warranty and very expensive to have repaired.

Battery life is short no matter which Elf model you have but batteries for the S500 with 70% more power (840 mAh vs 1200 mAh) are available for $22 from Battery Barn.

Finally the S500 was only $50 more than the S410 and the improved movie mode alone was worth that!