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@dam
10-02-2005, 12:51 PM
Hi guys. I realize topics similar to this seem to come up a lot, but I don't think a direct comparisson has realy been done yet.

My Canon S400 is starting to give me strange memory problems. I'm going on a trip to Thailand in January, so it is time to get something new.

Yesterday at Costco, I picked up the new SD500 for $399. The Casio Z750 was also there. It was a tough choice, but I have the SD500 for now. I can still exchange it though. The Casio would be nice for its manual controls, but pictures from it just don't seem to look as good as from the Canon. They seem harsh and oversaturated. I also have my eye on the Fuji F10. It is a little big, and the options kind of suck, but I love how little noise there is at high ISO, which is one of the Canon's few weak points. I really don't like using the flash since it tends to have a harsh, glary look, so that'd be nice.

What I was wondering is if anybody here has done a side-by-side shootout of these cameras. By that, I mean taking the exact same picture with each of the three cameras. Online, the only shootouts I could find was with the Z750 at its default settings. I hear it is much better if you turn down the contrast and saturation, but I've been unable to find any comparissons of the three cameras set up to work their best. I was also originally considering the Stylus 800, but the pictures from that look extremely jagged and harsh. I also looked at the P200, but it's images lacked detail, + it takes memory stick, has the dust on the sensor problem, and has that famous Sony reliability.

Also, if anybody has any tips, here is what I'm looking for in a camera.

My top two priorities are this...
1) Image quality. This is a camera first and foremost afterall! I want it to have good colors, I want it to look smooth but crisp and detailed, and I want very little noise. Good low-light pictures are a definite plus. It seems the Canon probably takes the best pictures overall, but it may not be as good in unusuall situations as the other two. This is the main reason why I so far have the Canon. I suppose the F10 probably has better quality at night though.

2) Size and speed. A camera is only going to take a good picture if it is with you and it is handy, so it must be something you can take and put into your pocket and then quicly grap and turn on quickly to take a series of shots. It doesn't have to be crazy-small though as that makes handling difficult. Something about the size of my old S400 is fine.

Secondary priorities are...
-reliability (Costco is great with returns, which is why I bought it there, but I don't want any problems that will take the camera out of comission while on a trip, so the cracked LCD problem is only somewhat of a concern since I can still take photos in auto mode with the optical viewfinder)
-Lots of control options
-Battery life
-Something that takes Compact Flash or SD- I hate propriatary memory
-Good video quality
-Ease of use (i.e., common features not buried in menus)
-Optical viewfinder (helps when batteries are low, and in unusual lighting conditions)
-Something that can handle tough environments (cold, dust, moisture. I realize this is pretty much Olympus and Pentax only though, unfortunately)

Tertiary priorities are
-Auto rotate
-Stylish
-Panaromic mode

I don't know- I suppose this is sort of a false dilema as they are all excellent cameras. I just can't stand not having the "best one" though.

swgod98
10-02-2005, 01:11 PM
I've been having the same concerns about replacing my aged S200. I am very seriously considering all 3 of the camera's you mentioned (and the Kodak V550). I really like the Elph line, and I would buy one again without hesitation if the F10 wasn't available. One of my friends came back from Italy a couple weeks ago. He bought himself an SD400 for himself and the pictures he brought back were really nice! Although ALL (yes, ALL) of his indoor shots that he did not use flash on came out blurry. Thing is, there were some places they wouldn't let you use flash. Or, the flash would ruin the picture. He said he tried changing settings, but nothing seemed to work for him. In all fairness, I don't think he is very experienced with PnS camera's and I didn't see any EXIF info for the pictures.

Makes me consider the F10 more and more. But, it isn't small enough IMO :\ I really want a camera I can put on my belt and not have it seem overly bulky. The S200 was just about perfect. An SD400 or 450 would be even better! But, the F10 is a little too large IMO. It will fit in a pocket, but only comfortably if you have baggy jeans or shorts.

I don't know what I'm going to end up doing...So, whatever you decide, let me know too :D

@dam
10-02-2005, 01:54 PM
Yeah- I hear you.

A few threads down there is a post with links to a SD550/F10 shoot out. They seem very close. I'd like to see a shootout that has both cameras in their strong and weak points though. i.e., Bright, varied, colorful light for the Canon and darker settings for the F10.

The comparisson at imaging resource shows the same sorts of things. The Canon looks better at low ISO's, but the Fuji is clearly better at high ISO's.

Man- if Canon would just offer manual controls and better low-light capabilities, nobody would ever buy another compact but it.

I am curious as to how the Casio compares to these two side-by-side as well.

Also, has anybody heard of any reliablity issues with the Fuji?

Bluemanchu
01-16-2006, 09:24 PM
I just wanted to bump this up b/c i have the same issue. Im replacing my sd300 and already have 2Gb in SD cards so the f10 looks a bit worse to me when you add its size. i have never used manual controls on a camera, and was wondering if having manual control on the casio z750 would help to make up for the picture quality in dark areas? Thanks

- - Blue