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Butter
08-19-2005, 08:40 AM
Hallo,
I was planning to buy the 20d canon, but read in quite a few reviews that the results, directly from the camera are a bit soft. Maybe this goes for all DC’s? My wish is not to have work on the JPG files from the camera. Is 20d a good choise then, or are there other options in this price range. I do not want a compact camera. Who helps?
Thanks,
Rob

Kalfireth
08-19-2005, 09:04 AM
Are you sure that digital is the best option for you then?

Coltess
08-19-2005, 09:10 AM
Ehm... Why not just go with an analog (i.e. film) SLR in stead? No computer involved at all. :D

Kenyada
08-19-2005, 10:30 AM
Hallo,
I was planning to buy the 20d canon, but read in quite a few reviews that the results, directly from the camera are a bit soft. Maybe this goes for all DC’s? My wish is not to have work on the JPG files from the camera. Is 20d a good choise then, or are there other options in this price range. I do not want a compact camera. Who helps?
Thanks,
Rob
I "hate" to tell ya, but digtal cameras are computers, too :D I don't really see any way around having a relationship with a computer unless you take your memory card to a camera shop for processing. And where's the fun in that? Good Luck :o

timmciglobal
08-19-2005, 05:07 PM
Soft is relative. You can always raise in camera sharpening and contrast to max but it's still not going to be as heavily processed as a point and shoot. If your making 4x6's you'll never be able to tell though.

Tim

Rhys
08-19-2005, 06:42 PM
Hallo,
I was planning to buy the 20d canon, but read in quite a few reviews that the results, directly from the camera are a bit soft. Maybe this goes for all DC’s? My wish is not to have work on the JPG files from the camera. Is 20d a good choise then, or are there other options in this price range. I do not want a compact camera. Who helps?
Thanks,
Rob

Unfortunately computers are an integral part of photography these days. Film cameras still represent excellent value for money though and for the price difference you can use several hundred rolls of film. For example, an EOS K2 is $100 and a 20D is $1200 approx. That leaves $1100 difference. Ritz sells 6 rolls of Fujifilm for $7. I'm guessing that developing will be about $5 per film. This means $6 per roll including printing. $1100 divided by $6 is about 200. That's a fair lot of photos!

tim11
08-19-2005, 07:42 PM
You don't have to be a genius to use a computer for digital photos download and backups to CD/DVDs. The functions are very routne. I assume you don't know much about computer and I'm sorry if that is not the case.
I think learning the F-stop/shutter speed, their correct combinations; etc, are even more complicate than those computer plugging in and download. Besides, digital photography has almost no running cost. {don't get me wrong, I'm not getting into the film/digital rebate}.

Butter
08-19-2005, 11:31 PM
Hello and thanks for the replies,

The thing is, I work daily with computers and that is enough. I don't mind downloading pictures from a camara and see how they look like on the monitor and even print some of them. What I don't like is post processing them.

So, what I really wanted to ask is whether there is a digital SLR camera that has more or less ready pictures when you download them and don"t need lots of post processing to adjust light, sharpness, colors etc.

Suggesting me to go analoge is not a solution, because I like the advantages of digital photography.


Thanks again,
Rob

tim11
08-20-2005, 05:56 AM
Ahhhhh....... now you are talking. You title clouded the picture and get people under-exposed.
Digital 'post processing' should be seen as a benefit rather than a burden. It's another advantage of digital photography. You don't have to do any post processing if you hate it. Any digital SLR has RAW or JPEG format.

tarfearauko
08-20-2005, 06:10 AM
If you like photography but simply do not want to put any effort in post-processing that's fine. There are lot's of brilliant phtographers in this forum using only jpeg, i think some of them have started giving raw a try recently or plan doing so in the near future (am I right jamison?). If you want sharper pictures you set your in-camera controls to get pictures sharper and your are done. Eventually you might want to tweak a bit further your pictures and then you will have the posibility simply setting one parameter in your camera menu. Isn't that great enough latitude?

Eventually I have come to love George's signature even though I only started with this hobby two years ago with a Canon G3 P&S.


Once you go dSLR you'll never go back...
...Once you go RAW you'll never go back...

Hope you don't have copyright on this, George ;)